MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[MrSerendipity]

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Is a tolleson+Gallo for Bauer far off?

Very far off. Gallo would require so much more.

[rovert22044]

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I sincerely hope you mean Correa OR Springer+. Jesus



Yeah I give up hope on the pitching myth being dispelled. If there was ONE good thing going to come out of Kansas winning, it should've been that people would realize you can have Jeremy Guthrie as an integral part of your rotation and still win a world series.

Pitchers are worth less than hitters. They explode frequently and are more plentiful. The Astros would be insane to deal either, much less both Correa and Springer, for Sale. And literally no one would consider Sale the best. He's not even alone in a tier when you discount his value for the insane injury risk. His contract isn't even a huge bonus when you're talking about dealing him for 6 years of Carlos Correa.

THANK YOU. I was going nuts over here seeing that people think Chris Sale is even close to worth that haul. I'm sorry, I may be biased, but there isn't a player in baseball I'd trade Correa & Springer + for. That's just insane. I literally was about to go on a massive rant until I saw your post, which summarized my feelings. Lol

[TitoFranc]

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Very far off. Gallo would require so much more.

How do you figure ? He can't hit. He can hit for power, but he's probably going to struggle to hit .250 and at coming up on 23 it's getting to the point hitting for contact is a weakness more than he needs development time.

On top of that as rough as a year Bauer had he would still be your #3 starter based on the numbers from last year.

[BlueJays09]

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Sadly that sounds about how he pitches in real life LOL

I think I am going to move him before the season starts if possible for whatever I can get ... We'll see

Good luck! Could you let me know what you get for him??

Thanks!

[Mysterious]

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Good luck! Could you let me know what you get for him??

Thanks!

LOL, definitely. Honestly my thought right now is I am going to trade him with two top prospects to somebody else for a younger slightly better pitcher that's probably on the last year of the contract obviously dependent on how the trade logic is working and the value of my players sits. I know some people don't like that or don't feel it's realistic but the Jay's trade for Tulowitzki last year I think shows that teams looking to compete can give up a lot especially in the prospect area to get something back that's better. And that that's realistic

[BBallcoach]

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THANK YOU. I was going nuts over here seeing that people think Chris Sale is even close to worth that haul. I'm sorry, I may be biased, but there isn't a player in baseball I'd trade Correa & Springer + for. That's just insane. I literally was about to go on a massive rant until I saw your post, which summarized my feelings. Lol

I mean Trout would be the only one worth considering and that's way too much for him!

[rovert22044]

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I mean Trout would be the only one worth considering and that's way too much for him!

Yeah I would take Correa and Springer over Trout every day of the week. Their production together is more productive than Trout alone. Plus, I think Correa will have a better career than Trout in the long run.

[AC]

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Nah in any given year Trout probably equals Correa + Springer shoved into one roster spot. I'd do Trout or Harper, that's it.

Below average contact hitters with high power return #4-5-6 starters not some of the best pitchers in baseball types.

I mean, this is an awfully definitive statement to make about someone with legit 80 power. Considering Kris Bryant makes below average contact.

Generalizations. They don't work.

[Roextro]

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Doing an Astros franchise at the moment and I am looking for a solid first baseman as I don't have faith in Singleton at the moment, any suggestions?

[BlueJays09]

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Doing an Astros franchise at the moment and I am looking for a solid first baseman as I don't have faith in Singleton at the moment, any suggestions?

Sign Justin Morneau? Trade for Matt Adams? Votto (more expensive), Carlos Santana, Sandoval, James Loney (just released)?

That's off the top of my head!

[MrSerendipity]

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How do you figure ? He can't hit. He can hit for power, but he's probably going to struggle to hit .250 and at coming up on 23 it's getting to the point hitting for contact is a weakness more than he needs development time.

On top of that as rough as a year Bauer had he would still be your #3 starter based on the numbers from last year.

Yep, he'll likely be a career .245 hitter. But he'll average around 30-40 homers a year when he peaks in Globe Life Park. He also fills an immediate need at 3rd base when Beltre retires. You don't give up a Top 10 prospect (#6 according to most sites) and more for a #3 pitcher that's only a #3 pitcher in your rotation. Not to mention, I don't think he IS a #3 pitcher in Texas' rotation if Holland stays healthy and Perez can increase on his production.

[TitoFranc]

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Nah in any given year Trout probably equals Correa + Springer shoved into one roster spot. I'd do Trout or Harper, that's it.



I mean, this is an awfully definitive statement to make about someone with legit 80 power. Considering Kris Bryant makes below average contact.

Generalizations. They don't work.

They dont work but my facts do. He might have 80 power but he is a lifetime sub 260 hitter in the minors in over 400 games. Plus baseball prospectus gave him an 80 swing and miss in 2014 and said his chance of actually reaching his potential was around 40.

Kris Bryant makes below average contact? He hit over .320 in 2013_ 2014 and 2015 in the minors while Gallo can't hit way out of a wet paper bag in the minors.

If Bryant makes below average contact then Gallo is the worst contact hitters basebl has ever seen, bar none.

Didn't know he was so incredibly overrated around here, geez. But good thing he has 80 power right? Lol hahaha

[TitoFranc]

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Yep, he'll likely be a career .245 hitter. But he'll average around 30-40 homers a year when he peaks in Globe Life Park. He also fills an immediate need at 3rd base when Beltre retires. You don't give up a Top 10 prospect (#6 according to most sites) and more for a #3 pitcher that's only a #3 pitcher in your rotation. Not to mention, I don't think he IS a #3 pitcher in Texas' rotation if Holland stays healthy and Perez can increase on his production.

And a .245 30 HR hitter, whos also going to have a boatload of strike outs, doesn't have that much value. That's around an Adam Dunn type career and I wouldn't give up that much for an Adam Dunn type of player.

[Scrapps]

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And a .245 30 HR hitter, whos also going to have a boatload of strike outs, doesn't have that much value. That's around an Adam Dunn type career and I wouldn't give up that much for an Adam Dunn type of player.

Tito, as a Tribe fan, you're a tad bit biased. Based on every source imaginable, Gallo is a top 10 prospect. You continue to bring up batting avg. Obviously, that's not his strength. He has prodigious power, and will be a big time run producer. You're selling him incredibly short.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Doing an Astros franchise at the moment and I am looking for a solid first baseman as I don't have faith in Singleton at the moment, any suggestions?

Wait for OSFM and call up A.J. Reed?

They dont work but my facts do. He might have 80 power but he is a lifetime sub 260 hitter in the minors in over 400 games. Plus baseball prospectus gave him an 80 swing and miss in 2014 and said his chance of actually reaching his potential was around 40.

Kris Bryant makes below average contact? He hit over .320 in 2013_ 2014 and 2015 in the minors while Gallo can't hit way out of a wet paper bag in the minors.

If Bryant makes below average contact then Gallo is the worst contact hitters basebl has ever seen, bar none.

Didn't know he was so incredibly overrated around here, geez. But good thing he has 80 power right? Lol hahaha

Is this supposed to be a comedy act or a legitimate argument? You are pushing to trade for a player while telling everyone you think he's going to suck?

Aside from that, your "facts" are interesting. This guy who can't hit his way out of a wet bag hit .323 at A+ in 2014 and .314 at AA in 2015 (after hitting .232 at AA the first time). So no contact ability at all? The worst contact hitter of all time, perhaps?

Gallo played about 1/5 of a season in MLB last year, only batted .204, and still posted 0.6 fWAR. That makes him a good player (3.0 fWAR) with a 50 HR power ceiling even if he can't hit above the Mendoza line.