MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[sc050610]

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Does Dylan Bundy have any value left? I just can't pitch with his slow wind up. He still has a high ceiling If he can stay healthy now. Of course after two Tommy John surgeries that is a big IF.

I know he isn't going to command a huge package back like he may once have but he could still get you a low B or High C guy back?

[Dirty_D_]

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Didn't look like a top prospect today.

[yanks22009]

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Playing as the Yankees in my chise right now and I just hit the all star break. Im sitting just over .500 and about 8 games back in the division and 4 games back in the wildcard.

I'm tempted to unload both Chapman and Miller since I have gotten very good contributions from Johnny Barbato and Kirby Yates. Looking around the league, both the Rangers and the Cubs could use some help. I'm looking at a Miller for Soler or Schwarber, and Chapman for either Profar or Gallo. Would straight up be fair for these two? Or would I have to throw in some more?

[AC]

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I mean, Wallace wasn't a prospect when that all happened and Gose had 600+ plate appearances in the majors when he was dealt for Travis. It was essentially a prospect swap but not really straight up. Sometimes they make sense, other times teams don't want to be "that team" that gave up a prospect who blossoms into a superstar for another prospect that could flame out. The risk might not always outweigh the reward.

But what I was getting at there was that top 10 prospects (like Gallo) don't normally get traded for other prospects.

Wallace was 23 and so was Gose. That's prospect age. I dunno, I think it should happen more. Still no idea why Tavares/Profar never happened.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Didn't look like a top prospect today.

Good grief, man. He's 19 and making his 1st MLB start on the road in New York. A little context goes a long way.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Playing as the Yankees in my chise right now and I just hit the all star break. Im sitting just over .500 and about 8 games back in the division and 4 games back in the wildcard.

I'm tempted to unload both Chapman and Miller since I have gotten very good contributions from Johnny Barbato and Kirby Yates. Looking around the league, both the Rangers and the Cubs could use some help. I'm looking at a Miller for Soler or Schwarber, and Chapman for either Profar or Gallo. Would straight up be fair for these two? Or would I have to throw in some more?

You're not getting those types of names for relief pitchers, no matter how dominant they are. No Soler/Schwarber/Gallo types. Profar is a maybe, I guess. But the point is that relievers don't fetch young, controllable MLB position players that have All Star upside.

[TheKT]

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I was thinking Jaso as a catcher for them. Figured he'd be a plug in starter for them to solidify their lineup. But ya Beltre would probably be more realistic... and Dozier's arm is too weak for 3B. And I really don't like his D up the middle so I'd probably pass on him. Just not sure what power hitting 3B makes sense. Really the only open spot i have on my starting roster. Beltre makes sense. Valbuena makes sense too. Honestly just not a fan of Freese, want an upgrade there.

I may have missed a post somewhere, but what happened to Kang? That guy mashes for me. I think an upgrade at SS would be the best move, you could stick with Texas, and get Profar for a lot cheaper than Gallo. You may even be able to hold on to Taillon.

[pootytang]

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But you have to factor in return on investment. It's not just about finding the name brand pitcher with the lowest contract. Kershaw is making more than Archer, but if you use any sort of rational $$/WAR metric, Kershaw is more than worth that extra $$$. In fact, this year Kershaw, even while making $30 million, will put up something ridiculous like $55 million in surplus value. Put this another way, you're getting enough value from Kershaw to darn near pay him, Ryan Howard, and Albert Pujols combined.

Kershaw is damn valuable in his own right, never said otherwise. They're both similar in surplus value. Last year Archer was paid $1m, he was worth 5.5 wins so thats about 40 million in surplus value. Kershaw was paid 30 million and put up about 8.5 wins last year so about 30 million in surplus value. Using 7m/w to calculate value.

Archer is also a year younger and locked up for 6 more years as opposed to Kershaw's 3 years.

[pootytang]

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Clayton Kershaw is the best player in baseball...nuff said.


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This is also not true.

Nor is he the most valuable commodity in baseball.

[Dirty_D_]

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Would this work for both teams involved

Rays Get

Jorge Soler
AB 345 HR 8 RBI 55 SB 0 AVG .267

OR

Kyle Schwarber (No stats due to injury)

Cubs Get

Jake Odorizzi
W-L 10-7 IP 140.2 SO 122 ERA 3.17 WHIP 1.26
Danny Farquhar
W-L 2-2 IP 44.0 SO 30 ERA 2.86 WHIP 1.57

Thanks in advance

[pootytang]

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Would this work for both teams involved

Rays Get

Jorge Soler
AB 345 HR 8 RBI 55 SB 0 AVG .267

OR

Kyle Schwarber (No stats due to injury)

Cubs Get

Jake Odorizzi
W-L 10-7 IP 140.2 SO 122 ERA 3.17 WHIP 1.26
Danny Farquhar
W-L 2-2 IP 44.0 SO 30 ERA 2.86 WHIP 1.57

Thanks in advance

Not enough for Schwarber and Soler isn't enough for Odorizzi. Why not Baez and Vogelbach for that package?

[Tmizzle]

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Sale isn't realistic at all. The Twins wouldn't want to get burned for what they would have to give up (Sano/Buxton, Berrios++) and you never see great players get traded in the same division.


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I love BUxton but i could deal Jay, Berrios or Gordon to get a high priced pitcher. I know Sal is within division so I was also looking at guys like Patrick Corbin or Sonny Gray.

[Dirty_D_]

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Not enough for Schwarber and Soler isn't enough for Odorizzi. Why not Baez and Vogelbach for that package?

Didn't think I could go after those guys with Jake plus I can't bay worth of hell with Baez !!! lol

Would the Cubs pair one of those guys with Soler to make this happen or should I just look else where ?

I would like to keep this as realistic/fair on all fronts.

[pootytang]

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Didn't think I could go after those guys with Jake plus I can't bay worth of hell with Baez !!! lol

Would the Cubs pair one of those guys with Soler to make this happen or should I just look else where ?

I would like to keep this as realistic/fair on all fronts.

If you want Soler and Vogelbach for Odorizzi the Cubs would most likely do it. I don't like the value for the Rays but It's not like they're getting ripped off at all

[Dirty_D_]

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If you want Soler and Vogelbach for Odorizzi the Cubs would most likely do it. I don't like the value for the Rays but It's not like they're getting ripped off at all

Would the Cubs then add more to this deal as far as value ?!?
Ie. Willson Contreras (C) , Justin Steele (LHP)


If not I'm find with Soler and Vogelbach

Thanks again