MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[k_mac]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Maybe Arrieta + AddRuss might get you a response.

There comes a point where trades just become counter-intuitive, and I think trying to contend but giving Russell and Arrieta for one guys is where I'd draw that line. This might get a little wild or "out there" in terms of realism (but hey, the Cubs trading either this year won't happen).

Three team trade where a pitching needy team gets Arrieta and the Cubs flip a piece to the Mets with Russell or probably Baez and another..

Cubs get: Syndergaard + prospect from Boston
Mets get: Russell/(Baez +) + Moncada
Red Sox get: Arrieta

Do the Cubs or the Mets have any reason to do this deal? No, but it's some kind of start for the OP if he's trying to make fair deals.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Have some ideas for a trade between the Padres (me) and the Astros (cpu) based around Tyson Ross. There are no stats because I am thinking of it as an off-season trade like the Kimbrel deal. I prefer a "preseason" deal because the acquiring team would essentially get 2 years of Ross before he hits FA.

The core of the deal is based on the Astros needing more starting pitching (particularly at the front of the rotation...see Keuchel, Dallas this year; Feldman or Fister could turn into a swingman) and having a nice selection of young/prospect players that I covet. So I thought they'd make a good destination for Tyson Ross. He's pretty reasonably compensated and would slot in as their number 2 or 1A behind Dallas Keuchel.

Here are some options; I just ask for help in putting the fairest/most realistic package together.

I give: SP Tyson Ross (28 y/o making $9.6M, 86 OVR, my highest rated player)

I get one pitcher and one position player from the following players (I've ranked each group in order of who I'd want the most):

1B A.J. Reed (23 y/o, 68 OVR/89 POT)
1B Jon Singleton (24 y/o, 70 OVR/77 POT)
LF Preston Tucker (25 y/o, 73 OVR/77 POT)

SP Francis Martes (20 y/o, 72 OVR/86 POT)
SP David Paulino (22 y/o, 70 OVR/80 POT)
SP Joe Musgrove (23 y/o 76 OVR/78 POT)


I'd also be willing to kick in a spare part (C Derek Norris, 3B Yangervis Solarte to help Houston at areas they are thin and even out the deal).

[Totte]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Have some ideas for a trade between the Padres (me) and the Astros (cpu) based around Tyson Ross. There are no stats because I am thinking of it as an off-season trade like the Kimbrel deal. I prefer a "preseason" deal because the acquiring team would essentially get 2 years of Ross before he hits FA.



The core of the deal is based on the Astros needing more starting pitching (particularly at the front of the rotation...see Keuchel, Dallas this year; Feldman or Fister could turn into a swingman) and having a nice selection of young/prospect players that I covet. So I thought they'd make a good destination for Tyson Ross. He's pretty reasonably compensated and would slot in as their number 2 or 1A behind Dallas Keuchel.



Here are some options; I just ask for help in putting the fairest/most realistic package together.



I give: SP Tyson Ross (28 y/o making $9.6M, 86 OVR, my highest rated player)



I get one pitcher and one position player from the following players (I've ranked each group in order of who I'd want the most):



1B A.J. Reed (23 y/o, 68 OVR/89 POT)

1B Jon Singleton (24 y/o, 70 OVR/77 POT)

LF Preston Tucker (25 y/o, 73 OVR/77 POT)



SP Francis Martes (20 y/o, 72 OVR/86 POT)

SP David Paulino (22 y/o, 70 OVR/80 POT)

SP Joe Musgrove (23 y/o 76 OVR/78 POT)





I'd also be willing to kick in a spare part (C Derek Norris, 3B Yangervis Solarte to help Houston at areas they are thin and even out the deal).

Singleton has worn out his welcome in Houston and could use a fresh start so he becomes a realistic bat for you to target.

Give Ross and Norris to get Singleton, Paulino and Stassi back?

[UTAllTheWay]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

As an Astros fan, I would be ecstatic if they got Tyson Ross and Derek Norris for Singleton, Paulino, and Stassi.

Personally, I would say there were three options here:

Astros get: Tyson Ross
Padres get: Singleton and Paulino

Or;

Astros get: Tyson Ross and Derek Norris
Padres get: AJ Reed, Paulino, and Stassi

Or;

Astros get: Tyson Ross and Norris
Padres get: Martes, Singleton, and Stassi

That's my opinion. I would be willing to give up Singleton and Paulino for a pitcher I can add to the top of my rotation. I would need the extra kicker (Norris) to include Reed or Martes.

[MindBeats]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

No need to get defensive. I was just making you aware that most of the guys who actually help out in here dislike requests being bumped from a few hours ago. Since you seem quite new here (never heard of you before this year and a month ago or so at that), I was trying to do you a favor so you don't go down the road of ultimately getting yourself completely ignored.

For future reference, there are like 8 guys who answer 95% of the questions in this thread (AC, k_mac, redsox4evur, redsoxfan31, GamecocksLaw17, myself, and a couple of others I am forgetting as well as others who have dropped off the map like rjackson and 37). So really if you piss off that core group of guys, you are S.O.L.

I don't think you've done this yet, hence my friendly warning. No need to take it personally as I was actually trying to educate and not just be confrontational.

Ok, I don't like conflicts. I'm sorry if I did anything wrong. I certainly didn't know I was doing it.

[CBoller1331]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Have some ideas for a trade between the Padres (me) and the Astros (cpu) based around Tyson Ross. There are no stats because I am thinking of it as an off-season trade like the Kimbrel deal. I prefer a "preseason" deal because the acquiring team would essentially get 2 years of Ross before he hits FA.

The core of the deal is based on the Astros needing more starting pitching (particularly at the front of the rotation...see Keuchel, Dallas this year; Feldman or Fister could turn into a swingman) and having a nice selection of young/prospect players that I covet. So I thought they'd make a good destination for Tyson Ross. He's pretty reasonably compensated and would slot in as their number 2 or 1A behind Dallas Keuchel.

Here are some options; I just ask for help in putting the fairest/most realistic package together.

I give: SP Tyson Ross (28 y/o making $9.6M, 86 OVR, my highest rated player)

I get one pitcher and one position player from the following players (I've ranked each group in order of who I'd want the most):

1B A.J. Reed (23 y/o, 68 OVR/89 POT)
1B Jon Singleton (24 y/o, 70 OVR/77 POT)
LF Preston Tucker (25 y/o, 73 OVR/77 POT)

SP Francis Martes (20 y/o, 72 OVR/86 POT)
SP David Paulino (22 y/o, 70 OVR/80 POT)
SP Joe Musgrove (23 y/o 76 OVR/78 POT)


I'd also be willing to kick in a spare part (C Derek Norris, 3B Yangervis Solarte to help Houston at areas they are thin and even out the deal).

I honestly think you can pretty much take your pick at who you want among those players. If you end up wanting Reed though, I think that might rule out Paulino and Martes, but if you throw in Norris too that might be enough to get one of them as well because the Astros could really use a catcher who can hit left handed pitching.

[Tmizzle]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

I honestly think you can pretty much take your pick at who you want among those players. If you end up wanting Reed though, I think that might rule out Paulino and Martes, but if you throw in Norris too that might be enough to get one of them as well because the Astros could really use a catcher who can hit left handed pitching.

The AStros would take Norris in a heartbeat since IRL they are very weak at the catcher position especially since they have been starting Gattis there lately. If I was Houston, I would take that deal. Ross gives them another dominate arm as well.

[adamj2281]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Dodgers had a lot of injuries to SP's, so I did a Teheran for Joc Pederson trade, straight up, there may have been a salary dump on my part with either Kelly Johnson or Gordon Beckham.

Thoughts?

Traded Markakis separately to Royals for Bubba Sterling, ATL outfield: Mallex - LF, Pederson - CF, Inciarte - RF.

[Tmizzle]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Dodgers had a lot of injuries to SP's, so I did a Teheran for Joc Pederson trade, straight up, there may have been a salary dump on my part with either Kelly Johnson or Gordon Beckham.

Thoughts?

Traded Markakis separately to Royals for Bubba Sterling, ATL outfield: Mallex - LF, Pederson - CF, Inciarte - RF.

The Pederson trade could happen in real life but the Markakis deal would be a easy no go. The Royals are still high on STarling and they wouldnt take on that salary.

[CKW11]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Dodgers had a lot of injuries to SP's, so I did a Teheran for Joc Pederson trade, straight up, there may have been a salary dump on my part with either Kelly Johnson or Gordon Beckham.

Thoughts?

Traded Markakis separately to Royals for Bubba Sterling, ATL outfield: Mallex - LF, Pederson - CF, Inciarte - RF.

I don't think the Braves would have any interest in Bubba Starling at this point. The Johns seem to wanna stay away from guys who K a lot.

Depending on how he's performing I could see Markakis bringing in a high C from someone like the Orioles or White Sox.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Dodgers had a lot of injuries to SP's, so I did a Teheran for Joc Pederson trade, straight up, there may have been a salary dump on my part with either Kelly Johnson or Gordon Beckham.

Thoughts?

Traded Markakis separately to Royals for Bubba Sterling, ATL outfield: Mallex - LF, Pederson - CF, Inciarte - RF.

The Pederson/Teheran deal doesn't make much sense because the Dodgers don't need any more mid-rotation starters.

Ditto the Royals trade. Starling can do what Markakis can do defensively, but is young and a fraction of the cost.

Both deals a bit slanted toward you. Not the worst I've seen.

[nyqu1st]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

There comes a point where trades just become counter-intuitive, and I think trying to contend but giving Russell and Arrieta for one guys is where I'd draw that line. This might get a little wild or "out there" in terms of realism (but hey, the Cubs trading either this year won't happen).

Three team trade where a pitching needy team gets Arrieta and the Cubs flip a piece to the Mets with Russell or probably Baez and another..

Cubs get: Syndergaard + prospect from Boston
Mets get: Russell/(Baez +) + Moncada
Red Sox get: Arrieta

Do the Cubs or the Mets have any reason to do this deal? No, but it's some kind of start for the OP if he's trying to make fair deals.

Yeah, I wouldn't trade Jake + AddRuss if I were the Cubs and contending but in terms of fairness that is what I believe it would take. It would just not be beneficial to both parties. Nobody wins in that trade but I was just giving my opinion to the OP on what it might take.

In terms of realism, well there may very well be an argument for both sides. If the Cubs do not want to pony up and give Arrieta in between 20-30m/yr then he could be shipped out.

[GamecocksLaw17]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Ok, I don't like conflicts. I'm sorry if I did anything wrong. I certainly didn't know I was doing it.

So to help we need to know, which teams are still in the playoff hunt, how is Pomeranz pitching, and how how close are you to the deadline? All of these will play into his value

[Tmizzle]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

I don't think the Braves would have any interest in Bubba Starling at this point. The Johns seem to wanna stay away from guys who K a lot.

Depending on how he's performing I could see Markakis bringing in a high C from someone like the Orioles or White Sox.

The Orioles wouldn't bring him back unless the Braves eat nearly all the salary and as a Orioles fan, That is a very small chance

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Singleton has worn out his welcome in Houston and could use a fresh start so he becomes a realistic bat for you to target.

Give Ross and Norris to get Singleton, Paulino and Stassi back?

As an Astros fan, I would be ecstatic if they got Tyson Ross and Derek Norris for Singleton, Paulino, and Stassi.

Personally, I would say there were three options here:

Astros get: Tyson Ross
Padres get: Singleton and Paulino

Or;

Astros get: Tyson Ross and Derek Norris
Padres get: AJ Reed, Paulino, and Stassi

Or;

Astros get: Tyson Ross and Norris
Padres get: Martes, Singleton, and Stassi

That's my opinion. I would be willing to give up Singleton and Paulino for a pitcher I can add to the top of my rotation. I would need the extra kicker (Norris) to include Reed or Martes.

I honestly think you can pretty much take your pick at who you want among those players. If you end up wanting Reed though, I think that might rule out Paulino and Martes, but if you throw in Norris too that might be enough to get one of them as well because the Astros could really use a catcher who can hit left handed pitching.

The AStros would take Norris in a heartbeat since IRL they are very weak at the catcher position especially since they have been starting Gattis there lately. If I was Houston, I would take that deal. Ross gives them another dominate arm as well.

Thanks for the copious feedback. And getting an Astros fan's perspective legitimizes it a bit more, imo.

I don't really have interest in Stassi because I have Hedges and Bethancourt (part of the reason I can jettison Norris), both are prospect-y, but I think I like the framework of what was proposed above in bold.

The more I think about it, the more I like Reed over Singleton because he's better defensively and hitting for average. I see Paulino as roughly = to Martes in desirability. Paulino's stuff isn't quite as "electric", but it's a bit more diverse.

Last question before I go through with a deal like this....who could I substitute in for Max Stassi? So basically...

GIVE: Tyson Ross + Derek Norris
GET: A.J. Reed + David Paulino + [insert something of modest value here]

I feel like I'm giving up a pair of starters so I have no trouble stretching them to include a third warm body, albeit a so so one. The question is who fits best? Or how about this, who out of Tony Kemp (OF/2B, 73 OVR/73 POT)/Jake Marisnick (CF, 74 OVR/75 POT)/Jandel Gustave (RP, 61 OVR/74 POT) fits best as the third banana?