MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[grushcow]

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One of the Garcias in that system (Yeudy the pitcher or Willy the OF) could headline a package for Valbuena. Tarpley, Kingham, Keller, or Holmes (those guys are generally all low B or high C prospects, right?) should be a start if you want to look in another direction. If it takes more, it won't be that much.

If you want to play Jaso at backstop, that's up to you. He's not great behind the plate but if the bat is what you want then that's a call you have to make. Cervelli hit pretty well last year.

Re Jose Bautista: He hasn't played more than 3 games/year at 3B since like 2011, counting on him to play any kind of defense there day in and day out would be risky.

Ya I was thinking Kingham. I'd rather hold onto Jaso and have another middle order bat anyway. I'll send them Kingham and a C. Thanks for the input.

The other guy I'd like to target is Rowdy Tellez. Want a little more power in the minors and a Blue Jay to have in the wings. Was thinking one of the Garcias.

[AC]

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Please enlighten us!

Are you just high on Reed? Or would there be a better alternative? I was just about to press "enter" on the deal when I checked back one last time, lol. An Astros fan even signed off on it, dang.

Does Singleton + Martes + Kemp make more sense? Could I sweeten so that getting Reed is more palatable?

I think I'm high on Reed and low on Ross. He's a hitting machine and we've seen these prospects do well lately (namely Bird and Goldy). Ross is an injury risk and not particularly controllable. I just don't think I would be doing anything around Ross/Reed if I was the Stros. Martes+Singleton/White + Kemp is totally fine by me, maybe with San Diego giving up a guy like Maurer too.

[holden57]

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One of the Garcias in that system (Yeudy the pitcher or Willy the OF) could headline a package for Valbuena. Tarpley, Kingham, Keller, or Holmes (those guys are generally all low B or high C prospects, right?) should be a start if you want to look in another direction. If it takes more, it won't be that much.

If you want to play Jaso at backstop, that's up to you. He's not great behind the plate but if the bat is what you want then that's a call you have to make. Cervelli hit pretty well last year.

Re Jose Bautista: He hasn't played more than 3 games/year at 3B since like 2011, counting on him to play any kind of defense there day in and day out would be risky.

I can't really comment on trade returns, but Bautista at 3B is a no go. Only other position I can see him playing is 1B.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I think I'm high on Reed and low on Ross. He's a hitting machine and we've seen these prospects do well lately (namely Bird and Goldy). Ross is an injury risk and not particularly controllable. I just don't think I would be doing anything around Ross/Reed if I was the Stros. Martes+Singleton/White + Kemp is totally fine by me, maybe with San Diego giving up a guy like Maurer too.

Are you suggesting tossing in Maurer (or similar RP) in addition to Derek Norris or instead of him?

I am fine with not getting Reed; I feel like trades should hurt a bit and you shouldn't necessarily get everyone you want. Essential for realism, imo.

[CBoller1331]

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Are you suggesting tossing in Maurer (or similar RP) in addition to Derek Norris or instead of him?

I am fine with not getting Reed; I feel like trades should hurt a bit and you shouldn't necessarily get everyone you want. Essential for realism, imo.

Im not sure how available he would be, but what if you got Preston Tucker back instead of Reed? Id have to imagine he's not quite as highly touted as Reed is, and that would allow you to keep Myers at 1B....which would keep him on the field and off the DL (which i guess is a little irrelevant in the video game where everyone has relatively the same injury risk...).

I guess the risk there is that theres a pretty good chance Tucker turns into nothing but a platoon guy vs righties. I don't know... just throwing that out there

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Im not sure how available he would be, but what if you got Preston Tucker back instead of Reed? Id have to imagine he's not quite as highly touted as Reed is, and that would allow you to keep Myers at 1B....which would keep him on the field and off the DL (which i guess is a little irrelevant in the video game where everyone has relatively the same injury risk...).

I guess the risk there is that theres a pretty good chance Tucker turns into nothing but a platoon guy vs righties. I don't know... just throwing that out there

What about this...Last iteration? lol. I didn't expect there to be this much back and forth with this one, but I ain't complaining either.

GIVE: Tyson Ross + Derek Norris + RP Jon Edwards (instead of Maurer)
GET: Jon Singleton + Francis Martes + Preston Tucker

Singleton would become my starting 1B, Myers would move to LF. Tucker would be a lefty bench bat and able to spell Kemp in RF and Myers in LF from time to time. Essentially Tucker would become my 4th OF and force a Jay/Upton platoon in CF. This also saves me from having 2 Kemps on 1 team. I feel like 1 might be enough.

Even if they trade Preston Tucker, the Stros would still have Springer, Gomez, Marisnick, and Rasmus in the OF, with Gattis and Tony Kemp able to play LF as well. I upgrade a bit from Kemp to Tucker as a consolation for downgrading from A.J. Reed to Singleton. Thoughts? How valuable do the Astros consider Preston Tucker? Looking at FanGraphs, he's got a FV = 40, which ain't so great, with basically across the board average tools. He's been pretty abysmal in his brief MLB career to date. Willing to gamble.

[rovert22044]

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What about this...Last iteration? lol. I didn't expect there to be this much back and forth with this one, but I ain't complaining either.

GIVE: Tyson Ross + Derek Norris + RP Jon Edwards (instead of Maurer)
GET: Jon Singleton + Francis Martes + Preston Tucker

Singleton would become my starting 1B, Myers would move to LF. Tucker would be a lefty bench bat and able to spell Kemp in RF and Myers in LF from time to time. Essentially Tucker would become my 4th OF and force a Jay/Upton platoon in CF. This also saves me from having 2 Kemps on 1 team. I feel like 1 might be enough.

Even if they trade Preston Tucker, the Stros would still have Springer, Gomez, Marisnick, and Rasmus in the OF, with Gattis and Tony Kemp able to play LF as well. I upgrade a bit from Kemp to Tucker as a consolation for downgrading from A.J. Reed to Singleton. Thoughts? How valuable do the Astros consider Preston Tucker? Looking at FanGraphs, he's got a FV = 40, which ain't so great, with basically across the board average tools. He's been pretty abysmal in his brief MLB career to date. Willing to gamble.

As an Astros fan, I feel like you'd be overpaying here. I think if you removed the 3rd player in the deal (Edwards/Maurer), I think that's fair. So essentially:

GIVE: Tyson Ross + Derek Norris
GET: Jon Singleton + Francis Martes + Preston Tucker

Not that Edwards or Maurer particularly have much value, I just feel it's fair the way it is.

Just my two cents, though. Lol

[AC]

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GIVE: Tyson Ross + Brandon Maurer
GET: Jon Singleton + Francis Martes + Preston Tucker

[Tmizzle]

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GIVE: Tyson Ross + Brandon Maurer
GET: Jon Singleton + Francis Martes + Preston Tucker

I would rather take Kemp over Tucker. Tucker does have some pop but Kemp brings speed, contact and versatility.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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As an Astros fan, I feel like you'd be overpaying here. I think if you removed the 3rd player in the deal (Edwards/Maurer), I think that's fair. So essentially:

GIVE: Tyson Ross + Derek Norris
GET: Jon Singleton + Francis Martes + Preston Tucker

Not that Edwards or Maurer particularly have much value, I just feel it's fair the way it is.

Just my two cents, though. Lol

GIVE: Tyson Ross + Brandon Maurer
GET: Jon Singleton + Francis Martes + Preston Tucker

I would rather take Kemp over Tucker. Tucker does have some pop but Kemp brings speed, contact and versatility.

Thanks for all the input!

I decided to keep Norris in the deal over Maurer because... (1) I am trying to thin out my 3-headed, righty catching monster in Norris/Bethancourt/Hedges and, (2) I feel the Stros could use a righty platoon partner for Castro more than another 7th inning guy. I also prefer Preston Tucker to TONY Kemp just because of the LH power, which I really only have Brett Wallace and now Singleton providing otherwise. Tucker can DH for me and play a passable sub to Myers/MATT Kemp in the corners, while TONY Kemp doesn't give me much more than Spangenberg at 2B or Upton/Jay in the OF. I also decided to keep Edwards in there so Houston gets a pen arm and it's a 3 for 3 deal. If I did a 2 for 3 deal without Edwards, I'd need to release someone to stay at 90-man anyway.

For what it's worth, I homered with Singleton on the very first pitch he saw off Felix Hernandez in Spring Training, lol. So far, so good.

[Tmizzle]

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So in my franchise with the Twins, the Oriols traded Kevin Gausman for Brendan Rodgers. I let the trade go through as I believe it was a very fair deal. The Orioles get a Shortstop of the future with a aging Hardy at SS who just so happens to be hurt right now and the Rockies get an potential ACE pitcher back in the deal. As an Orioles fan myself, I wouldn't mind this deal in real life as well. Whats your guys thought on the deal?

[nyqu1st]

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So in my franchise with the Twins, the Oriols traded Kevin Gausman for Brendan Rodgers. I let the trade go through as I believe it was a very fair deal. The Orioles get a Shortstop of the future with a aging Hardy at SS who just so happens to be hurt right now and the Rockies get an potential ACE pitcher back in the deal. As an Orioles fan myself, I wouldn't mind this deal in real life as well. Whats your guys thought on the deal?

Depends. Are the O's out of it? If they are contending I don't see them dealing their best pitcher for a spect. If the O's do this trade (their best pitcher for a SS who won't be at the ML level for a few years) then they have to believe they aren't competing for a WS atm. Would they be in this mindset after just re-signing Chris Davis to a fat contract?

Rockies pitching staff is abysmal and it looks like Story might be their shortstop of the future so Rodgers might be blocked off unless they can find a different position for him. Gausman has team control until 2020 I believe? That works out well on the Rockies part because they aren't immediate contenders with this trade. Don't know how high they are on Rodgers but he's only 19 and raking in A ball. Neither player is for certain. I'd probably deny the trade. After this last off-season it looked like the O's are in win now mode so I would not do this trade just because I don't think Baltimore is ready to start the fire sale.

[Tmizzle]

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Depends. Are the O's out of it? If they are contending I don't see them dealing their best pitcher for a spect. If the O's do this trade (their best pitcher for a SS who won't be at the ML level for a few years) then they have to believe they aren't competing for a WS atm. Would they be in this mindset after just re-signing Chris Davis to a fat contract?

Rockies pitching staff is abysmal and it looks like Story might be their shortstop of the future so Rodgers might be blocked off unless they can find a different position for him. Gausman has team control until 2020 I believe? That works out well on the Rockies part because they aren't immediate contenders with this trade. Don't know how high they are on Rodgers but he's only 19 and raking in A ball. Neither player is for certain. I'd probably deny the trade. After this last off-season it looked like the O's are in win now mode so I would not do this trade just because I don't think Baltimore is ready to start the fire sale.

As of right now their rotation is Tilly, Ubaldo, Gallardo, Wright and Bundy. It looks like Rodgers is on the MLB roster and starting at SS with hardy out due to injury. Its pretty crazy but we have seen 19 year olds make it to the pros just like Urias did the other night and machado was 19 when he debuted so its not to out the ordinary.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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As of right now their rotation is Tilly, Ubaldo, Gallardo, Wright and Bundy. It looks like Rodgers is on the MLB roster and starting at SS with hardy out due to injury. Its pretty crazy but we have seen 19 year olds make it to the pros just like Urias did the other night and machado was 19 when he debuted so its not to out the ordinary.

It is definitely out of the ordinary. I think you meant to say it's possible or fathomable for this to occur. 19 year olds playing in MLB is anything but ordinary these days. Go back 75 years and it was a bit more common.

[k_mac]

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Speaking of the Padres "glut" of catchers, what would you guys say Hedges value is right now?