MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Seen it a few posts ago, would Teheran and a B prospect work for Springer? Would then allow me to deal markakis at the deadline for a B prospect.

I don't see the Astros trading Springer and especially not in season--that would open up a huge hole in their OF. He's still cheap, and the Stros have arms coming up through their system, so they are under no duress to move him at all.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I'm playing as Atlanta. Yes, Reese Mcguire. Pittsburgh is 1.5, 3.5 games back respectively in mid to late July. Getting good production out out Cole and Liriano but nothing else. Taillon is out for the season and Glasnow has only logged 22 innings in the majors. Teheran has an Era in the high 2s, FIP in the low 3s.

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OK, so you are trying to do a trade around your Teheran for their McGuire+ ?? Did I read that right?

[NothingTrivial]

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OK, so you are trying to do a trade around your Teheran for their McGuire+ ?? Did I read that right?

Yessir.

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[Dirty_D_]

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There is a factor of injury and poor play and break down and all of that. Neither player here has ever had a major injury, and they are both 25 so I don't see a real breakdown coming. I also try to look at what they have done, and how they are progressing. Polanco will in all likelihood have multiple seasons above a 4WAR in the next 7 years. He is currently on pace for approximately 7.2WAR this year. I use my own outlook and tend to be more towards the cautious side.

That's sweet, I'll use this more before offering my advice on trades. Yea I know none of the players where ever hurt just asking for other trades that would envole a previously injured player.

Again thanks for this tool.

Ps. I see that the Bucs would be losing a valuable player and the return would be barley more then half of what there losing even with the return of Julio

[Bard]

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I could be speaking out of school here (help me Sawx Nation), but I don't think Shaw is worth a mid-rotation SP unless it comes with a pretty bad contract. I think you'd be shopping in the back end bin using Shaw as bait. I mean, Shaw has some good stats IRL, but not sure he has the pedigree to sustain it or to convince another team that he will.



What do you mean? Are you trading for him? Trading him away? Do you mean Reese McGuire? Where are you at in the season?

Honestly, Shaw could probably bring back a number 3 type. Him and a prospect for a Tyson Ross with control type of pitcher.

Shaw has already put up a 2.3 WAR on the year. So if he keeps going at this production (say 2.3 every two months) that is a WAR over 7.0. Now of course he will have his slumps, and likely won't hit that, but the guy is doing well in MLB. Batting average and on base for classic stats have been great, and I think he'll be a very solid option for 3B in the years to come. Though I would prefer him as a 1B/DH as most of his value does come with the stick.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Yessir.

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What types of prospects are you trying to get?

Just off the top of my head of who would be in play:

Reese McGuire
Alen Hanson
Josh Bell
Nick Kingham
Steven Brault
Kevin Kramer
Cole Tucker
Willy Garcia
Harold Ramirez

I would say you could snag any 2 of those (probably) and possibly 3 depending on which ones.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Honestly, Shaw could probably bring back a number 3 type. Him and a prospect for a Tyson Ross with control type of pitcher.

Shaw has already put up a 2.3 WAR on the year. So if he keeps going at this production (say 2.3 every two months) that is a WAR over 7.0. Now of course he will have his slumps, and likely won't hit that, but the guy is doing well in MLB. Batting average and on base for classic stats have been great, and I think he'll be a very solid option for 3B in the years to come. Though I would prefer him as a 1B/DH as most of his value does come with the stick.

Problem is he'll probably drop like a rock as his BABIP decreases from .380. Projections have him right around league average for ROS (.257/.323/.427) so either they're massively wrong or his hot streak is coming to an end sometime. He was sort of a nobody before this season, so I don't really buy into his being suddenly this good for long stretches. I suppose it would depend on the stats in the game as to what he could fetch.

[Bard]

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Problem is he'll probably drop like a rock as his BABIP decreases from .380. Projections have him right around league average for ROS (.257/.323/.427) so either they're massively wrong or his hot streak is coming to an end sometime. He was sort of a nobody before this season, so I don't really buy into his being suddenly this good for long stretches. I suppose it would depend on the stats in the game as to what he could fetch.

I actually am going through his stats and just noticed his Babip is insane. And I also disagree with you, some players can just come out of nowhere for teams. I am not saying Shaw will continue this production all season, but I don't think he'll fall off the face of the planet either. It is honestly wait and see to see if he is legitimate or not, but yes we need stats and everything from OP.

Also, he wasn't a nobody to Red Sox fans

[NothingTrivial]

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What types of prospects are you trying to get?

Just off the top of my head of who would be in play:

Reese McGuire
Alen Hanson
Josh Bell
Nick Kingham
Steven Brault
Kevin Kramer
Cole Tucker
Willy Garcia
Harold Ramirez

I would say you could snag any 2 of those (probably) and possibly 3 depending on which ones.

What would I need to add in with Teheran to get Mcguire, Bell and Brault? I'd even be willing to overpay a bit for that package. From the looks of their stats they could use some help in the pen. I have Ogando, Cervanka and Krol performing well out of the pen.

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[redsox4evur]

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Problem is he'll probably drop like a rock as his BABIP decreases from .380. Projections have him right around league average for ROS (.257/.323/.427) so either they're massively wrong or his hot streak is coming to an end sometime. He was sort of a nobody before this season, so I don't really buy into his being suddenly this good for long stretches. I suppose it would depend on the stats in the game as to what he could fetch.

Yea I'm with you. I don't think he can keep this up. And that he was a nobody but it was prior to being called up last year ala Betts. He was always a lower end prospect. For me the guys needs to do this stuff for a full season and then some. Hell I still don't JBJ is all that great. I think he is a streaky hitter and is probably one of the best fielding OF in the AL.


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[AC]

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1. I forgot about Kershaw's contract clause so that's a technical point, but Kershaw has more surplus value, especially considering scarcity. Which is the point I was making.

2. If people are suggesting trades that involve, like, half of each team being swapped, they should look into a fantasy draft. It would be much more fun for them, as they wouldn't have to worry about us endorsing any realism and we'd be able to focus on fairness.

3. The constant battling is getting beyond annoying. There are constant themes with trade proposals that people have tried to amend, but if someone else makes a different suggestion person A is yelled at for hypocrisy or something. The point of this thread is to endorse realism and fairness and if you're going to criticize the viewpoints people take time and effort out of their day to provide then there's no point at all.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I actually am going through his stats and just noticed his Babip is insane. And I also disagree with you, some players can just come out of nowhere for teams. I am not saying Shaw will continue this production all season, but I don't think he'll fall off the face of the planet either. It is honestly wait and see to see if he is legitimate or not, but yes we need stats and everything from OP.

Also, he wasn't a nobody to Red Sox fans

Coming out of nowhere is ok if based on solid peripherals. Anyone could look like a stud with .380 BABIP. Shaw is going to come back to earth.

What would I need to add in with Teheran to get Mcguire, Bell and Brault? I'd even be willing to overpay a bit for that package. From the looks of their stats they could use some help in the pen. I have Ogando, Cervanka and Krol performing well out of the pen.

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I'd say with Teheran doing well and being exactly the type of contract Pittsburgh would jump at adding (just think of Cole/Liriano/Teheran/Taillon/Glasnow), tossing in any one of those RPs would be plenty.

[WildPotato]

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Coming out of nowhere is ok if based on solid peripherals. Anyone could look like a stud with .380 BABIP. Shaw is going to come back to earth.

While it's more than likely Shaw will fall back down to earth, we can't ignore how he's doing in game and what his potential ratings in game are. His .380 BABIP in real life has no bearing on his performance in game. He's already a good hitter in game with a lot of room for improvement with around an 86 potential to an 80 overall.

So assuming the one who asked is in year 1 and Shaw is hitting around .270, I'd say it's fair to ask for a #3 starter give or take other pieces involved.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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While it's more than likely Shaw will fall back down to earth, we can't ignore how he's doing in game and what his potential ratings in game are. His .380 BABIP in real life has no bearing on his performance in game. He's already a good hitter in game with a lot of room for improvement with around an 86 potential to an 80 overall.

So assuming the one who asked is in year 1 and Shaw is hitting around .270, I'd say it's fair to ask for a #3 starter give or take other pieces involved.

He's a 76 OVR/77 POT in mine. With 86 POT, a perennial All Star is what you're saying his upside is. Let's just think about that, lol. Your roster may be broken or Sony has famously overreacted during one of their Live Roster Updates (which they do all the time). It's hard to capture a moment in time like they do.

[Tmizzle]

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So with the Twins we are having a decent season so far. If you guys want to follow, I am posting in my dynasty section if interested. But as of right now my need is an OF. I was going to go after Juan lagares but I couldn't get the money all to work with what I was wiling to give up for him, plus he is just an average talent and I need some more pop in my lineup but I could revisit this trade later on in the season unless he gets dealt before then. How the season is going, my starting 3B in Trevor Plouffe is having a bad start to the season and with that being said I decided to start Sano back at his old position at 3B. With this move being made, it opens up a spot in RF. I was looking at some players I could get cheaply and not have to over pay and the one that caught my eye is Steven Souza Jr. What would it take to get Souza? I looked at the rays and they lost Longoria for 2-3 months and are weak at SS so I was going to offer them PLouffe as he can play both of them positions. I figured he just needs a fresh new scenery as he is a solid player.