MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[QuestGAV]

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Baez has way more upside than Swihart. What else are you sending to the Cubs?

Devers (#7 prospect Law, 14 MLB.com, 18 Baseball America) & Tazawa.

[cubsgocontinental23]

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Devers (#7 prospect Law, 14 MLB.com, 18 Baseball America) & Tazawa.

Too much to give up for Baez.

[adamj2281]

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The braves can do much better else where. And that's not even taking the stats into affect.

Why would a rebuilding team give you a prospect for one slightly better while giving away Markakis (worth about 2 mid-high C depending on stats) and not to mention Vizcaino being worth 2 mid B's again without any stats to go on.

Just a bad trade. Braves are getting ripped off hard.

Yeah, I was trying to be balanced, so I took Braxton out of the trade and grabbed a C level SP. Keep in mind Markakis is basically a salary dump at this point. I'm the Braves in this trade, so.....I'll look around a bit more.

[Bard]

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Alrighty getting close to that time in my franchise, I am at the all-star break and both Swihart and Vazquez have been solid on defense but haven't proved too much on offense.

Christian Vazquez: .236/.292/.299 in 127 AB. He has zero errors and a 0.63 WAR (need anything else let me know)

Blake Swihart MLB followed by AAA (currently in AAA): .239/.272/.402 in 117 AB. He had one error and a 0.52 WAR. In Triple A he has 160 AB hitting .338, 7 home runs, 20 RBI.

Reason for giving their stats is because I would like to have one of them in the deal for Jonathan Lucroy. They haven't been amazing, but they still have value. A potential package I have thought about is this...

Brewers Recieve:
Christian Vazquez/ Blake Swihart (stats above)
Henry Owens 2.69 ERA/1.30 WHIP/3.59 FIP (need anything else let me know)
Sam Travis .316/.384/.492/.876 OPS/.175 ISO

Red Sox Recieve:
Jonathan Lucroy .293/.352/.418/.770/2.96 WAR

Believe it is also Lucroy's walk year so he could very well be a rental.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Alrighty getting close to that time in my franchise, I am at the all-star break and both Swihart and Vazquez have been solid on defense but haven't proved too much on offense.

Christian Vazquez: .236/.292/.299 in 127 AB. He has zero errors and a 0.63 WAR (need anything else let me know)

Blake Swihart MLB followed by AAA (currently in AAA): .239/.272/.402 in 117 AB. He had one error and a 0.52 WAR. In Triple A he has 160 AB hitting .338, 7 home runs, 20 RBI.

Reason for giving their stats is because I would like to have one of them in the deal for Jonathan Lucroy. They haven't been amazing, but they still have value. A potential package I have thought about is this...

Brewers Recieve:
Christian Vazquez/ Blake Swihart (stats above)
Henry Owens 2.69 ERA/1.30 WHIP/3.59 FIP (need anything else let me know)
Sam Travis .316/.384/.492/.876 OPS/.175 ISO

Red Sox Recieve:
Jonathan Lucroy .293/.352/.418/.770/2.96 WAR

Believe it is also Lucroy's walk year so he could very well be a rental.

I am assuming that you are in 2016? If so, it's not Lucroy's walk year; he has a super cheap team option for 2017 at $5.25MM that is 100% likely to get picked up. Whatever roster you're using should have included it..or if it were just me, I'd make him re-sign for that amount using 30-team control in the offseason.

Aside from that, I don't think your proposal gets it done for Lucroy. He's having a good year and even if he weren't, you'd need to have a better headliner. At this point, neither Swihart nor Owens is a headliner for a player of Lucroy's caliber (although one or both of those guys are in every single Red Sox deal I've seen on here lately). Two years ago, the Brewers would've been salivating at this. How times change.

My feeling is that you'll need to dip into the Benintendi/Espinoza well to get Lucroy. I don't think you have to include Moncada, but definitely one of the other top buzz guys.

Something like Benintendi (can play CF, eventual replacement for Braun) + Owens/Barnes/Johnson (ready to contribute/eat innings now) + Kopech (lottery ticket a ways off with 2/3 upside). Possibly a near-ready guy who can play 1B instead of one of the pitchers.

I could see a deal centered around Espinoza as well.

[Bard]

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I am assuming that you are in 2016? If so, it's not Lucroy's walk year; he has a super cheap team option for 2017 at $5.25MM that is 100% likely to get picked up. Whatever roster you're using should have included it..or if it were just me, I'd make him re-sign for that amount using 30-team control in the offseason.

Aside from that, I don't think your proposal gets it done for Lucroy. He's having a good year and even if he weren't, you'd need to have a better headliner. At this point, neither Swihart nor Owens is a headliner for a player of Lucroy's caliber (although one or both of those guys are in every single Red Sox deal I've seen on here lately). Two years ago, the Brewers would've been salivating at this. How times change.

My feeling is that you'll need to dip into the Benintendi/Espinoza well to get Lucroy. I don't think you have to include Moncada, but definitely one of the other top buzz guys.

Something like Benintendi (can play CF, eventual replacement for Braun) + Owens/Barnes/Johnson (ready to contribute/eat innings now) + Kopech (lottery ticket a ways off with 2/3 upside). I could see a deal centered around Espinoza as well.

Yes 2016, and I'd be totally okay giving up Benintendi I'm thinking. My outfield is set with my platoon, JBJR, Mookie. So would this one fly?

Benintendi
Owens
Ball/Chavis
Kopech

For

Lucroy
Peralta/Smith

I just turned off my PS4, but am curious if that's a decent base deal or is it a straight prospects for Lucroy nothing else included swap.

[Scrapps]

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I like that Boston trade for Lucroy. Would Lucroy to the Rangers for Brinson + Tate + Matuella + Morgan be enough for Lucroy?

It would be too much for Lucroy. On most lists, both Brinson & Tate, are top 20 prospects.

[jdrnym]

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Who are some underrated bullpen guys that could be had for cheap/minor leaguers?


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[Dirty_D_]

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Yes 2016, and I'd be totally okay giving up Benintendi I'm thinking. My outfield is set with my platoon, JBJR, Mookie. So would this one fly?

Benintendi
Owens
Ball/Chavis
Kopech

For

Lucroy
Peralta/Smith

I just turned off my PS4, but am curious if that's a decent base deal or is it a straight prospects for Lucroy nothing else included swap.

I like that Boston trade for Lucroy. Would Lucroy to the Rangers for Brinson + Tate + Matuella + Morgan be enough for Lucroy?

It would be too much for Lucroy. On most lists, both Brinson & Tate, are top 20 prospects.

Not sure how this can help but right now the Mets and Brewers are in discussions on a trade for Lucroy (reported over this last 4 game series) via New York Post (can be taken with a grain of salt)

Brewers get

Zac Wheeler
Travis d’Arnaud
Domic Smith

Mets get

Jonathan Lucroy +

Reported hold up is Sandy + Collins are not rest to give up on D'Arnaud just set.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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It would be too much for Lucroy. On most lists, both Brinson & Tate, are top 20 prospects.

Brinson yes, Tate no. But it will hurt to get an elite catcher like Lucroy when he's only owned $4 million this year and $5.2 million next year. This offer let's the Rangers keep Mazara and Gallo. Maybe switch out Tate or Brinson and switch that player to Profar.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Not sure how this can help but right now the Mets and Brewers are in discussions on a trade for Lucroy (reported over this last 4 game series) via New York Post (can be taken with a grain of salt)

Brewers get

Zac Wheeler
Travis d’Arnaud
Domic Smith

Mets get

Jonathan Lucroy +

Reported hold up is Sandy + Collins are not rest to give up on D'Arnaud just set.

I know Mets fans love them but sending 2 injured players isn't a great headline to a package. You never know with TJ and TDA has only played 100 games once. I just feel like other teams could beat this package.

[Bard]

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Not sure how this can help but right now the Mets and Brewers are in discussions on a trade for Lucroy (reported over this last 4 game series) via New York Post (can be taken with a grain of salt)

Brewers get

Zac Wheeler
Travis d’Arnaud
Domic Smith

Mets get

Jonathan Lucroy +

Reported hold up is Sandy + Collins are not rest to give up on D'Arnaud just set.

We don't have a true MLB arm like Wheeler, but with his TJS I wonder if Henry Owens can fill the void. Then Vazquez or Swihart instead where Travis is. Then Benintendi where Smith is.

Could that one work? Maybe get Will Smith or Willy Peralta in this as well?

[AC]

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Who are some underrated bullpen guys that could be had for cheap/minor leaguers?


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Sent this to k_mac yesterday

Grant Dayton
James Hoyt
Michael Broadway
Cory Mazzoni
Blake Treinen
Michael Dimock
Ian Thomas
Cory Rasmus

Can think of several more if you'd like

[Dirty_D_]

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I know Mets fans love them but sending 2 injured players isn't a great headline to a package. You never know with TJ and TDA has only played 100 games once. I just feel like other teams could beat this package.

Not offering up a deal... Just me taking what was reported by the New York Post. That's was there talking about, take can be taken with a gain of salt.

But last trade deadline the Brewers only wanted Wheeler for Gomez ??

We don't have a true MLB arm like Wheeler, but with his TJS I wonder if Henry Owens can fill the void. Then Vazquez or Swihart instead where Travis is. Then Benintendi where Smith is.

Could that one work? Maybe get Will Smith or Willy Peralta in this as well?

Figured you can go off this vaule ?

[Scrapps]

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Brinson yes, Tate no. But it will hurt to get an elite catcher like Lucroy when he's only owned $4 million this year and $5.2 million next year. This offer let's the Rangers keep Mazara and Gallo. Maybe switch out Tate or Brinson and switch that player to Profar.

I disagree. I've seen Tate rated as high as #18 (MLB.com or BA). In most places, no lower than 30. While I am a Texas fan, I try to remain unbiased. And I think a top 30 player, plus Profar, is simply too much for a 30 yr old catcher. Three years ago Profar was the top prospect in baseball. And it wasn't a lack of production that made him somewhat fall off the grid. It was injuries. And, he appears to be healthy now.