MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[Daonlyjmo7]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

I need a little help. I want one or two of Dillon Tate/Luis Ortiz/Matuella from the Rangers. I have Cashner and Norris to give to them. Do you guys think a package of all both is enough for Tate or will I have to settle for Ortiz or Matuella? Maybe Mendez? Maybe even Profar?

[Tmizzle]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

The other point is that nobody wants to help someone who isn't invested in their franchise. You ask about 17 different trades (exaggerating a bit, lol), but haven't even played a single game. What if you wake up tomorrow and want to re-start as a different team? That makes everyone's work and advice go to waste. That's why I usually don't answer early season/trade everybody type of posts. It's far too common for those players to lose interest and re-start. I like helping people out that are already invested in playing out their franchise, not just in seeing who they can swap for who on any given day.

Fantasy draft is better for people who just want to use a variety of different players.

That's why I kee up with my franchise

[CBoller1331]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Thanks for helping with the White sox trade

1. how is Valencia playing. Either way I don't see Hayes as the answer. I could see Harold Ramirez, Kevin Newman and Nick Kingham among players who could be traded. Let me know how he is playing and I will let you know.
2. Playing like that, I don't see hill getting traded. I feel like Toronto could for sure find a better option. Let me know what other teams could trade starters and how bad Toronto needs one.
3. If Ray is playing good then that's perfect.
4. Maybe Ynoa and Beccera for Cozart and a c level prospect. It's doable, but I feel like it's a slight overpay so maybe someone slightly less than Ynoa. If it was the Yankees, then Refsnyder and a pitching prospect that's not Kaprielian. I really like that trade, however it might be a slight underpay. If it's the Giants, then Shaw and Crick would be a great package. The Giants trade package is probably the most realistic, followed by the Yankees and the Mets.

Valencia's stats: 88 G, 350 AB, .289/.352/.449, 13 HR, 18.65% K%, 8.03% BB%, 2.54 WAR.

Hill really isn't pitching that badly....He's got a good K-rate and his FIP is a full run lower than his ERA. Plus he would be an upgrade over either Marco Estrada or RA Dickey who are both struggling.

If not...Cashner, Hellickson, and Ervin Santana are other pitchers they could add.

Thanks for input on other trades

Russell has locked in SS, Rizzo 1st, and Bryant 3rd (or OF). Baez is primed to take 2B after zobrist but with Ben on a 4-5 year deal and a decent overall, what am I to do with Baez? Soler and Schwarber are the left duo & next season I'll likely have them platoon left and Schwarber catch with Contreras and let Miggy walk. Which leaves me with potentially dealing Montero before the deadline to get something out of him, thoughts? Fowler is a beast at center and has to stay till he's up there in age. Heyward in right is okay...but I feel like the Cubs have invested in him and wouldn't deal him any time soon...the guy is in his mid twenties.

Pitching wise old man Lackey is a problem. He's got almost a 5 ERA and just cannot keep hitters off base. Hammel and Hendricks are chucking well enough to stay on the mound, but Warren is highly deserving a spot. With Lackey being way up there in age and on a larger contract, is there any realistic chance to move him?

You could trade Baez, and you'd definitely get an impact arm for him, but he's so versatile that he really has excelled in his utitlity role, where he can play 3B one day, SS the next, 2B the day after that....Plus if you want Schwarber to catch, you can move Bryant to left, Baez to third, and trade Soler. You've got lots of options.

Montero probably won't get you much more than a little salary relief

Lackey isn't going anywhere. Give him a little longer to try and figure things out, and move him to the pen if he's still really struggling

[ZoeK35]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Need some suggestions in my Cubs franchise...or someone to tell me I'm being too much of an eager beaver. This is a long term franchise to me, not just a one and done season. We know he Cubbies are stacked with talent, but something has me feeling I'm wasting a little talent.

Russell has locked in SS, Rizzo 1st, and Bryant 3rd (or OF). Baez is primed to take 2B after zobrist but with Ben on a 4-5 year deal and a decent overall, what am I to do with Baez? Soler and Schwarber are the left duo & next season I'll likely have them platoon left and Schwarber catch with Contreras and let Miggy walk. Which leaves me with potentially dealing Montero before the deadline to get something out of him, thoughts? Fowler is a beast at center and has to stay till he's up there in age. Heyward in right is okay...but I feel like the Cubs have invested in him and wouldn't deal him any time soon...the guy is in his mid twenties.

Pitching wise old man Lackey is a problem. He's got almost a 5 ERA and just cannot keep hitters off base. Hammel and Hendricks are chucking well enough to stay on the mound, but Warren is highly deserving a spot. With Lackey being way up there in age and on a larger contract, is there any realistic chance to move him?

Thanks

I wouldn't move Baez. I'm my franchise I use him as a super utility guy and give him about 4 starts a week at various positions. I love his versatility, and brings extra depth.

Lackey like some one said won't have much value.

If your looking to make a move, I would look to trading Soler. He has good value, and can bring back something good

[Daonlyjmo7]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

I would see Hellickson being traded if he is playing well.

can you check my last post about a Rangers trade. I want to know if that's realistic.

[gwtayl]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

What if I add one more prospect for the Rockies? I mean most of their prospects are close enough that they could be competitive next year, and maybe chase a playoff spot in 2018. Odorizzi still has 3 years of arbitration.

That is a lot for the Nats to give up.....but chasing the Mets by 9.5 games and holding on in a tight WC race, they might be willing to do it.

As for your Ross to the Cubs trade....if you want Torres as the centerpiece then you probably can't get Happ. Vogelbach is doable....but hes pretty poor defensively and is probably better off DH-ing in the AL. Candelario/McKinney are probably your best bets

That is a lot to give up for us--and if we are trailing by almost 10 games, we don't mortgage that much of the future hoping we could catch up at some point.

[BlueJays09]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Way off. You need to offer AT LEAST one top 100 prospect.

Any suggestions from the Jays? Lol the farm is quite thin.


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[CBoller1331]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

I would see Hellickson being traded if he is playing well.

can you check my last post about a Rangers trade. I want to know if that's realistic.

Mautella/Mendez + Morgan/Guzman?

[KnickNation17]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Looking at potentially getting Cargo in my Mets franchise.

As of the All Star Break he's hitting 310AB .261/.320/.481 with 18 HR, 42RBI, 2.00 WAR and the Rockies are 12 games under .500.

I'm thinking Plawecki, Montero, and Nimmo might be fair. If any one can let me know if that's fair or if I'm not giving up enough that would be appreciated.

I'm also willing to put in Cecchini or Herrera

Thanks

[redsox4evur]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Looking at potentially getting Cargo in my Mets franchise.

As of the All Star Break he's hitting 310AB .261/.320/.481 with 18 HR, 42RBI, 2.00 WAR and the Rockies are 12 games under .500.

I'm thinking Plawecki, Montero, and Nimmo might be fair. If any one can let me know if that's fair or if I'm not giving up enough that would be appreciated.

I'm also willing to put in Cecchini or Herrera

Thanks

It starts with Matz.

[CBoller1331]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

If it's the Giants, then Shaw and Crick would be a great package. The Giants trade package is probably the most realistic, followed by the Yankees and the Mets.

Would adding Jay Bruce (.214/.285/.357, -0.39 WAR) change this deal much? Maybe a young reliever?

[KnickNation17]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

It starts with Matz.

Then it ends with no thank you lol. Thanks for the quick response

[Bard]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Alrighty, I was here earlier last month with my Red Sox franchise in which I ended up staying put, and not doing anything. Now finally I am at the trade deadline in my 30-team control franchise, and I have a ton of possibilities. I understand if it doesn't get too many hits, but feedback, and opinions are very, very welcomed!

Catcher Deal:
The Brewers are sellers, the Orioles are out of contention. Lucroy is having a very good walk year: .289/.360/.419 - 3.04 WAR. Then we have Matt Wieters, the other catcher on the market: .284/.340/.410 - 2.45 WAR. Both men have very nice fielding, .997 & .999 respectively. Now we get down to the trades. The Rangers, Dodgers, Marlins, and Rockies (longshot) are the teams interested, and all have the farms to make something happen. Now if Lucroy goes to the Rangers, he will sign a 5-year extension with the deal with everyone knowing that. Wieters is testing the market no matter what.

Trade One:
Rangers Receive:
B Jonathan Lucroy
C Jeremy Jeffress - 11 saves, 1.26 ERA, 1.05 WHIP, .77 WAR, 6.6 K/9, 1.88 BB/9, 2.20 FIP

Brewers Receive:
B Chi Chi Gonzalez - (AAA) 2.66 ERA & 1.05 WHIP
A Dillon Tate - (AA) 3.12 ERA & 1.41 WHIP
B Jurickson Profar - .249/.317/.336 (73 games) - 1.05 WAR
B Keon Kela - 5.17 ERA, 1.36 WHIP, -0.19 WAR, 6.81 K/9, 2.82 BB/9, 5.14 FIP

Trade Two:
Marlins Receive:
Jonathan Lucroy

Brewers Receive:
Tyler Kolek B, 20 years old, Single A
Stone Garrett B, 20 years old, Single A
C Brian Anderson - (AA) .285/.383/.408

Trade One:
Dodgers Receive:
Matt Wieters

Orioles Receive:
B Ross Stripling - (AAA) 2.91 ERA & 1.22 WHIP
C Jordan Paroubeck - (AA) .283/.360/.379

Grandal has been awful, and they are hoping to re-sign Wieters in the offseason to non-tender Grandal, but if they can't retain Matt they have Grandal under contract.

Trade Two:
Rangers Receive:
Matt Wieters

Orioles Receive:
B Luis Ortiz - Single A, no stats

Next up we will go with the Yankees, and their reliever situation. Aroldis Chapman is in his walk year, but has been phenomenal. 0.55 ERA, 1.10 WHIP, 0.68 WAR, 13.22 K/9, 2.76 BB/9, 0.98 FIP. Next we have Andrew Miller, 3.29 ERA, 1.13 WHIP, 0.65 WAR, 11.85 K/9, 1.30 BB/9, 2.56 FIP. Now for teams interested it seems like the Giants, Cardinals, Pirates, and Cubs are the best options. Could see a huge bidding war from the three NLC teams, with the Giants walking away with one of them.

Trades One:
Giants Receive:
Andrew Miller

Yankees Receive:
B Tyler Beede - (AAA) 2.29 ERA & 1.05 WAR
B Lucius Fox - Single A, no stats


Trade Two:
Cardinals Receive:
Andrew Miller/Aroldis Chapman

Yankees Receive:
(For Miller)
B Jack Flaherty - Single A, no stats
B Magneuris Sierra - Single A, no stats
(For Chapman)
B Kolten Wong - 22 AB, .182/.250/.182 (doesn't have a spot on the team any longer, Yankees would shift one of Didi/Castro to 3B...if doesn't make any sense, shoot it down!)


Trade Three:
Pirates Receive:
Andrew Miller/Aroldis Chapman

Yankees Receive:
(For Miller)
B Nick Kingham - (AAA) 4.28 ERA & 1.67 WHIP
B Kevin Newman - (AAA) .274/.338/.326
(For Chapman)
B Reese McGuire - (AA) .248/.316/.350


Trade Four:
Cubs Receive:
Andrew Miller/Aroldis Chapman

Yankees Receive:
(For Miller)
B Jorge Soler - .277/.359/.385 - 1.06 WAR
B Dan Vogelbach - (AAA) .301/.404/.455
(For Chapman)
B Dan Vogelbach

As a dark horse team, the Nationals could make a play for Bentances as well, or one of these two. But not too sure on that one.


Now just running through rebuilding teams in order. Will give teams interested, and players that will likely be dealt.

White Sox:
Nate Jones - 2.65 ERA, 1.38 WHIP, 0.80 WAR, 10.85 K/9, 3.71 BB/9, 2.59 FIP (Cardinals, Pirates, Blue Jays, Rays, Marlins, Nationals)

David Robertson - 2.62 ERA, 1.11 WHIP, 0.83 WAR, 10.75 K/9, 2.10 BB/9, 2.53 FIP (Look above at Nate Jones)

Twins:
Phil Hughes - 3.48 ERA, 1.26 WHIP, 2.32 WAR, 6.25 K/9, 1.80 BB/9, 3.80 FIP (Nationals, Pirates, Rockies, Mariners, Angels, Royals, Tigers, Marlins, Dodgers)

Michael Tonkin - 2.16 ERA, 1.13 WHIP, 0.16 WAR, 5.40 K/9, 3.89 BB/9, 4.34 FIP (Cardinals, Pirates, Blue Jays, Rays, Marlins, Nationals)

Fernando Abad - 3.25 ERA, 1.25 WHIP, 0.32 WAR, 8.30 K/9, 2.60 BB/9, 4.17 FIP (Cardinals, Pirates, Blue Jays, Rays, Marlins, Nationals, Mets, Red Sox)

Glen Perkins - 2.89 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, 0.50 WAR, 7.71 K/9, 0.96 BB/9, 2.30 FIP (Cardinals, Pirates, Blue Jays, Rays, Marlins, Nationals, Mets, Red Sox)

Brian Dozier - .281/.368/.468 - 1.09 WAR (Pirates, Dodgers, Marlins)

Trevor Plouffe - .271/.352/.389 - 1.11 WAR (Giants, Dodgers)


Braves:
Julio Teheran - 3.07 ERA, 1.23 WHIP, 1.22 WAR, 6.83 K/9, 3.01 BB/9, 4.43 FIP (Nationals, Pirates, Rockies, Mariners, Angels, Royals, Tigers, Marlins, Dodgers)

Jim Johnson - 3.38 ERA, 1.31 WHIP, 0.54 WAR, 8.20 K/9, 3.13 BB/9, 3.29 FIP (Cardinals, Pirates, Blue Jays, Rays, Marlins, Nationals)

Arodys Vizcaino - 1.70 ERA, 1.22 WHIP, 0.56 WAR, 9.24 K/9, 3.65 BB/9, 3.24 FIP (Rays, Jays, Royals, Tigers, Indians, Angels, M's, Rangers, Mets, Nats, Marlins, Cubs, Cards, Pirates, Giants, Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox, Orioles, A's, Astros, Rockies)

Phillies:
Charlie Morton - 3.96 ERA, 1.39 WHIP, 1.95 WAR, 6.59 K/9, 3.47 BB/9, 3.85 FIP (Nationals, Pirates, Rockies, Mariners, Angels, Royals, Tigers, Marlins, Dodgers, Red Sox)

Jeremy Hellickson - 3.50 ERA, 1.25 WHIP, 1.85 WAR, 5.99 K/9, 2.76 BB/9, 3.96 FIP (Nationals, Pirates, Rockies, Mariners, Angels, Royals, Tigers, Marlins, Dodgers, Red Sox)

Jeanmar Gomez - 3.05 ERA, 1.33 WHIP, 0.61 WAR, 6.97 K/9, 3.48 BB/9, 3.27 FIP (Nationals, Pirates, Rockies, Mariners, Angels, Royals, Tigers, Marlins, Dodgers, Red Sox)


Reds:
Homer Bailey - 2.89 ERA, 1.39 WHIP, 2.59 WAR, 7.52 K/9, 4.11 BB/9, 3.54 FIP (Nationals, Pirates, Rockies, Mariners, Angels, Royals, Tigers, Marlins, Dodgers, Red Sox)

Ross Ohlendorf - 2.92 ERA, 1.30 WHIP, 1.05 WAR, 7.65 K/9, 2.51 BB/9, 3.14 FIP (Nationals, Pirates, Rockies, Mariners, Angels, Royals, Tigers, Marlins, Dodgers, Red Sox)

Jay Bruce - .239/.300/.438 - 0.89 WAR (Mets, Royals, A's)


Diamondbacks:
Patrick Corbin - 3.09 ERA. 1.14 WHIP, 2.47 WAR, 7.88 K/9, 2.30 BB/9, 3.58 FIP (Nationals, Pirates, Rockies, Mariners, Angels, Royals, Tigers, Marlins, Dodgers, Red Sox)

Andrew Chafin - 2.38 ERA, 1.30 WHIP, 0.44 WAR, 5.36 K/9, 3.18 BB/9, 3.73 FIP (Nationals, Pirates, Rockies, Mariners, Angels, Royals, Tigers, Marlins, Dodgers, Red Sox)


Rockies:
Jake McGee - 2.95 ERA, 1.25 WHIP, 1.05 WAR, 10.55 K/9, 1.96 BB/9, 2.02 FIP (Nationals, Pirates, Rockies, Mariners, Angels, Royals, Tigers, Marlins, Dodgers, Red Sox)

Carlos Gonzalez - .276/.356/.486 - 2.04 WAR (Mets, Royals, A's)


Padres:
Tyson Ross - 2.96 ERA, 1.31 WHIP, 3.43 WAR, 10.54 K/9, 3.54 BB/9, 2.99 FIP
(Nationals, Pirates, Rockies, Mariners, Angels, Royals, Tigers, Marlins, Dodgers, Red Sox)

Andrew Cashner - 3.19 ERA, 1.29 WHIP, 2.38 WAR, 7.77 K/9, 2.85 BB/9, 3.55 FIP (Nationals, Pirates, Rockies, Mariners, Angels, Royals, Tigers, Marlins, Dodgers, Red Sox)

Kevin Quackenbush - 2.53 ERA, 1.03 WHIP, 1.36 WAR, 10.46 K/9, 3.38 BB/9, 2.31 FIP (Nationals, Pirates, Rockies, Mariners, Angels, Royals, Tigers, Marlins, Dodgers, Red Sox)

Wil Myers - .270/.343/.484 - 1.49 WAR (Cardinals, Pirates, Rockies)


If anyone would like to help tackle this it would be much appreciated!

[redsoxfan31]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

I don't have any stats to give because I'm trying to come up with some trade ideas to make in my Sox franchise when I start it, but what would it take to get a guy like Sean Doolittle from the A's? Know he's had some injury history but he'd still be good to have shore up the pen with Ziegler & Koji (I play with real life injuries so Smith and Kimbrel are hurt)

[Daonlyjmo7]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

First off, that is an amazing post. I am always eager to respond to all posts, especially the organized and detailed ones like this. Now, let's begin.

Trade one for the catchers looks the best. In my opinion the Brewers are getting too little. Especially if the Rangers know they are getting a long term catcher. Add in the fact that Jeffress is in the deal as well, and it looks more or less like a trade Lewis Brinson would be included in. That's just my opinion though.

Trade one for Wieters is also looking like the best. I think another prospects could be added on the Dodgers part, but it isn't too far off.

Trade four looks best for the Yankees relievers. Miller for Soler/Vogelbach sounds pretty good to me. I don't see Betances getting traded, nor do I see a fair offer for Chapman.

White Sox: Robertson is more likely to be traded over Jones considering his track record. I could definitely see the Nationals make a run for him.

Twins: I don't see any particular player/team combos that jump out at me. Dozier and Perkins would be most likely to be dealt, just not sure to who.

Braves: I would say the best option would be to package Teheran and Vizcaino to the Dodgers or Red Sox. Either team could create a massive package.

Phillies: Best option here is two package Hellickson and Gomez to any of the teams listed. I see that all of the potential suitors match so you can't go wrong their. My personal favorite would be the Royals.

Reds: I could see the Mets buying low on Bruce if he is still putting up good power numbers.

Dbacks: I don't really know about either of these players being traded. I think they would all believe that there are better options out there, and even if they can't land one of the better ones, it is not worth settling.

Rockies: Mets could also go after Cargo. It really depends on how bad they need the offense. If desperate, go Cargo. But if they wanted to play it smart, they could get Bruce for much cheaper. If the Royals don't make the Phillies trade, they could get whichever of the two (Bruce and Cargo) that are not traded to the Mets. It depends on what the Royals need more, offense or pitching.

Padres: Myers won't be traded. The way that Ross and Cashner are playing, they definitely could be dealt. I could see Ross to the Red Sox and Cashner to the Marlins. Quackenbush could go to the Marlins as well in a Cashner trade.

Glad to help. Make sure to let me know if you need any further help.