MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[Helios12787]

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Padres could use some outfield help it seems. They have utility guys / people playing their secondary positions as starters in the outfield. They are only 1.5 games out. Jon Jay, Alexi Amarista (primary position SS), Alex Dickerson (primary position 1B), and Travis Jankowski are theyre 5 outfielders in the MLB.

None are hitting above .220 (don't ask me how these guys are only 1.5 games out haha). They do have some solid prospects which look to be on the verge of cracking the MLB though.

Only other contender I see that could use Markakis is the Red Sox to replace Chris Young / Brock Holt in left (both struggling with .230 averages).

[Tmizzle]

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Padres could use some outfield help it seems. They have utility guys / people playing their secondary positions as starters in the outfield. They are only 1.5 games out. Jon Jay, Alexi Amarista (primary position SS), Alex Dickerson (primary position 1B), and Travis Jankowski are theyre 5 outfielders in the MLB.

None are hitting above .220 (don't ask me how these guys are only 1.5 games out haha). They do have some solid prospects which look to be on the verge of cracking the MLB though.

Only other contender I see that could use Markakis is the Red Sox to replace Chris Young / Brock Holt in left (both struggling with .230 averages).

The Red Sox will eventually call up Benitendi so sending Markakis there may be odd but the Padres could be your team. If they are 1.5 games out they would surely need a upgrade! In my Twins season the Phillies are like 3.5 games in first so weird stuff like happens but for the Padres to do it...they suck man lol

[KBLover]

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Another off topic question (sorry), how do you dynasty posters like it? I am considering starting a OOTP 17 dynasty considering how much i like the game and my love for sports writing.

I've posted a few dynasties - had a M13 one going through seven seasons I believe before the next game came out and a MLB13 one with the Rays that was in year 3 or 4 (no carryover then...or I'd still be playing it - still remember some of my prospects and how they developed...and of course Wil Myers and his 36-game hit streak while hitting like .420 or something - he was becoming ridiculous lol).

It's pretty cool. I don't have the time/desire for it any more (the franchise progress threads are enough for me and I don't feel compelled to give per game updates), but I did enjoy it while I was doing it.

OOTP should lend itself well because it will present storylines for you and make it easier to spin off from there with your own imagination to flesh out your universe. Not to mention being able to write about other leagues, posted/international players, surprise scouting discoveries, etc.

[Daonlyjmo7]

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Padres could use some outfield help it seems. They have utility guys / people playing their secondary positions as starters in the outfield. They are only 1.5 games out. Jon Jay, Alexi Amarista (primary position SS), Alex Dickerson (primary position 1B), and Travis Jankowski are theyre 5 outfielders in the MLB.

None are hitting above .220 (don't ask me how these guys are only 1.5 games out haha). They do have some solid prospects which look to be on the verge of cracking the MLB though.

Only other contender I see that could use Markakis is the Red Sox to replace Chris Young / Brock Holt in left (both struggling with .230 averages).

Padres make sense in your franchise, but Red Sox make sense IRL and franchise. I only say that bc irl the Padres would never be contending year 1 lol. So that's why I would trade with the Red Sox, because the Padres are probably a fluke and wouldn't give prospects to contend (although you never know with Preller). So either team really. Take a B prospect and you're good to go.

[Helios12787]

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Yea and it has to be a fluke that theyre winning because There is like 1 or 2 players on their team batting above .220.

[Daonlyjmo7]

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Tmizzle and KB, thanks for the input. Definetly going to at least give it a try. Starting tomorrow. I'll put it in my little description where Tmizzle has his Twins dynasty. Btw, I do read your dynasty. Love it man.

[KBLover]

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Yea and it has to be a fluke that theyre winning because There is like 1 or 2 players on their team batting above .220.

Funny the Padres came up because in my fantasy draft franchise, they are playing similar...and made it to the WS in year 1 (I beat them in 6) and then in Year 2, they won it all, both times beating better teams along the way.

If I could be confident that park effects are in the game, I'd say Petco might be doing it.

And this is with a fantasy draft. Makes me wonder if park effects are in beyond Coors and I think Arizona's park.

[Daonlyjmo7]

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Funny the Padres came up because in my fantasy draft franchise, they are playing similar...and made it to the WS in year 1 (I beat them in 6) and then in Year 2, they won it all, both times beating better teams along the way.

If I could be confident that park effects are in the game, I'd say Petco might be doing it.

And this is with a fantasy draft. Makes me wonder if park effects are in beyond Coors and I think Arizona's park.

Park effects are definitely in the game, I can confirm that. Or at least altitude is. I am 100% positive about altitude. Not sure about it being in the sim engine tho.

[Tmizzle]

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Padres make sense in your franchise, but Red Sox make sense IRL and franchise. I only say that bc irl the Padres would never be contending year 1 lol. So that's why I would trade with the Red Sox, because the Padres are probably a fluke and wouldn't give prospects to contend (although you never know with Preller). So either team really. Take a B prospect and you're good to go.

That's why I said the Padres are his choice. When you get this far in the season, it's hard sometimes to take real life in account since different things can be happening. Like I stated in my season the Phillies have the best record in baseball lol

[Tmizzle]

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Tmizzle and KB, thanks for the input. Definetly going to at least give it a try. Starting tomorrow. I'll put it in my little description where Tmizzle has his Twins dynasty. Btw, I do read your dynasty. Love it man.

I appreciate it man and I will be on the look out for yours!

[Daonlyjmo7]

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That's why I said the Padres are his choice. When you get this far in the season, it's hard sometimes to take real life in account since different things can be happening. Like I stated in my season the Phillies have the best record in baseball lol

I appreciate it man and I will be on the look out for yours!

True. For me I normally take real life as 50% and franchise for 50% for the first season, then I switch fully to franchise. But I totally get why other people would want to be more franchise oriented.

And means a lot bro thanks!

[Tmizzle]

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True. For me I normally take real life as 50% and franchise for 50% for the first season, then I switch fully to franchise. But I totally get why other people would want to be more franchise oriented.

And means a lot bro thanks!

Yea prospects lists can help
You in York first season because of the real life Top 100 but as the season progresses, the top 50 list changes in the game. Like for me Gonsalves is now a top 50 prospect because of the season he's having and other prospects making their MLB debuts. The Phillies have called up Nick Williams, Crawford, Moniak, Thompson and Hoskins. Hoskins was hitting decent but they sent him back down when they traded for Victor Martinez. The Phillies also dealt for a starter but I can't remember who right now who it was

[KBLover]

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True. For me I normally take real life as 50% and franchise for 50% for the first season, then I switch fully to franchise. But I totally get why other people would want to be more franchise oriented.

I look at real life as more a concept than specifics. Like "what would his value generally be considered?" more than "he is considered this by team X in MLB" or "team X did this with him in MLB".

Team valuations and absolute value are a lot of times different. Usually, I use franchise results (considering I have one in 2018 and one in 2023...it's almost by default at this point) and think of it in real life framework - that's the great thing about WAR - it (can be) adjusted for environment (within it's components)...or stuff like FIP- or wRC+ which are explicitly park/run environment adjusted.

Then it doesn't really matter. 140 wRC+ in my franchise...whatever stats that is, can be valued similar to 140 wRC+ irl with variations based on what's happening in 2018 or 2023.

I guess I try for a middle ground, best-of-both-worlds, approach.

[Daonlyjmo7]

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I look at real life as more a concept than specifics. Like "what would his value generally be considered?" more than "he is considered this by team X in MLB" or "team X did this with him in MLB".

Team valuations and absolute value are a lot of times different. Usually, I use franchise results (considering I have one in 2018 and one in 2023...it's almost by default at this point) and think of it in real life framework - that's the great thing about WAR - it (can be) adjusted for environment (within it's components)...or stuff like FIP- or wRC+ which are explicitly park/run environment adjusted.

Then it doesn't really matter. 140 wRC+ in my franchise...whatever stats that is, can be valued similar to 140 wRC+ irl with variations based on what's happening in 2018 or 2023.

I guess I try for a middle ground, best-of-both-worlds, approach.

Makes sense. I just do IRL only for 2016, because I like to thing I am playing alongside the current year. I'm not saying I solely use it either. I use both.

[Helios12787]

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So have decided to try and figure out a trade for Markakis to the Padres. Was thinking of targeting either one of their middle infielders (which they seem to have a handful of) or right fielder Michael Gettys.

A middle infielder would be mostly just for depth in the farm system after Swanson and Albies get promoted. Gettys is intriguing with his powerful arm, good speed, and decent power. Hes ranked as the Padres #10 prospect according to mlb.com though so don't know if that seems like a bit too much to take from the Padres for Markakis.

Jim Johnson could either go to Miami or I could bundle him with Markakis to the Padres. Both are in need with the Marlins being in desperate need of a solid reliever, while the Padres could use an upgrade from a couple struggling relievers.

For Infante I was looking at maybe Kyle Farmer (C/3B) from the Dodgers. Currently ranked at #24 in the Dodgers farm system. Would give me a decent catching prospect to replace Pierzynski / Tyler Flowers with soon.

What you guys think?