MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[redsoxfan31]

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I actually kind of like the idea of a Shelby Miller trade, what would it take to get him though because I don't want to sell the farm for him. Would a package from Boston of SP Trey Ball, SS Mauricio Dubon be a good start (maybe finish?)? Just looking for some tips

[Tmizzle]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

I actually kind of like the idea of a Shelby Miller trade, what would it take to get him though because I don't want to sell the farm for him. Would a package from Boston of SP Trey Ball, SS Mauricio Dubon be a good start (maybe finish?)? Just looking for some tips

What's his stats?

[KnickNation17]

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You better be getting something back with Shelby Miller if you're giving up Wheeler.

Something like what ? This were their stats during the first season of my franchise. I feel like it's even enough for a swap but what else do you think I might be able to get from Arizona in a trade ?

Miller (84 OVR ) stats last year : 9-14 4.40 ERA 188.0 IP 1.37WHIP
Wheeler (78 OVR ) stats last year (missed time with a broken hand): 3-5 4.92 ERA 82.1 IP 1.51 WHIP

[Tmizzle]

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Something like what ? This were their stats during the first season of my franchise. I feel like it's even enough for a swap but what else do you think I might be able to get from Arizona in a trade ?

Miller (84 OVR ) stats last year : 9-14 4.40 ERA 188.0 IP 1.37WHIP
Wheeler (78 OVR ) stats last year (missed time with a broken hand): 3-5 4.92 ERA 82.1 IP 1.51 WHIP

So Wheeler got hurt for the second year in a row? You would need to give up more for Shelby then

[KnickNation17]

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So Wheeler got hurt for the second year in a row? You would need to give up more for Shelby then

Yes he did. It wasn't his elbow but I guess could see teams thinking he's injury prone. Would a High C prospect get the job done in your opinion ? I don't think these two players are to far apart in terms of value given the numbers I just gave. Injuries aside...

[Shamhat1915]

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Looking to make a trade for some relief help as the Tigers. Now I know divisional trades don't happen often, but they can happen, and I would like to acquire Zach Putnam from the White Sox. Putnam is 3-5 on the season with a 3.30 ERA and 1.17 WHIP in 42 innings pitched. He his an 11.14 K/9 and 2.7 BB/9 with a FIP of 3.77. www

Would some like Drew VerHagen (62/76), Spencer Turnbull (62/77), or Wynton Bernard (60/75) get the job done? I don't write know what to offer for Putnam, but I want him.

[KBLover]

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Yes he did. It wasn't his elbow but I guess could see teams thinking he's injury prone. Would a High C prospect get the job done in your opinion ? I don't think these two players are to far apart in terms of value given the numbers I just gave. Injuries aside...

I would agree. Unless his durability rating is low (edited or otherwise), injury history isn't really a thing in the game.

I think a decent C prospect (not necessarily one close to a B but maybe relatively young - a "could go either way" type and not a "pure project pie in the sky" type)

[Tmizzle]

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I would agree. Unless his durability rating is low (edited or otherwise), injury history isn't really a thing in the game.

I think a decent C prospect (not necessarily one close to a B but maybe relatively young - a "could go either way" type and not a "pure project pie in the sky" type)

I go by realism so I take injury history seriously as people do in real life as well

[CBoller1331]

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If you want realism, a broken hand is kind of a freak injury...and probably doesn't make him more injury prone

Shelby Miller is just flat out not good. But if you want him go for it

[Tmizzle]

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If you want realism, a broken hand is kind of a freak injury...and probably doesn't make him more injury prone

Shelby Miller is just flat out not good. But if you want him go for it

Shelby Millers track record shows he is good. In his season, he had a solid season. We are not going by real life stats as his franchise season stats is what counts.

[KBLover]

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Shelby Millers track record shows he is good. In his season, he had a solid season. We are not going by real life stats as his franchise season stats is what counts.

Then, wouldn't his in-franchise injury risk be what counts as well?

Granted, I never knew where that fuzzy irl > franchise line is.

[CBoller1331]

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Shelby Millers track record shows he is good. In his season, he had a solid season. We are not going by real life stats as his franchise season stats is what counts.

His track record shows a 2.4 fWAR season, a .5 fWAR season, and a 3.4 fWAR season. And based on the limited stats the original poster gave, it looked like Miller's season in his franchise was closer to the .5 WAR year than the other years.

[KnickNation17]

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If you want realism, a broken hand is kind of a freak injury...and probably doesn't make him more injury prone

Shelby Miller is just flat out not good. But if you want him go for it

Shelby Millers track record shows he is good. In his season, he had a solid season. We are not going by real life stats as his franchise season stats is what counts.

Then, wouldn't his in-franchise injury risk be what counts as well?

Granted, I never knew where that fuzzy irl > franchise line is.

His track record shows a 2.4 fWAR season, a .5 fWAR season, and a 3.4 fWAR season. And based on the limited stats the original poster gave, it looked like Miller's season in his franchise was closer to the .5 WAR year than the other years.

Miller's full line during the first season in my game is this:

32 GP,9-14, 188.0 IP, 4.40 ERA, 1.37 WHIP, 162 K, 197 Hits, 18 HR, 3.50 WAR, 7.76 K/9

I agree with what someone else said earlier about a broken hand being more of freak accident than something else. Bones will heal and he will be fine. Obviously if he tore ligaments in his arm or shoulder it's a different convo. With that being said Wheeler's durability is a 43 which is a bit low lol. I think Miller had a solid season in my franchise but it wasn't anything special and I think Wheeler plus a lower end prospect would get it done. However, that's just my opinion and I'm far from a expert. At the same time I'm think I'm just gonna hold onto Wheeler and try and let him develop an increase his value. Miller probably isn't the guy to go after if I'm looking for an upgrade. I do appreciate all the help and responses tho. As always it's appreciated.

[CBoller1331]

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His WAR was 3.50 during the first season in my game. I agree with what someone else said earlier about a broken hand being more of freak accident than something else. Bones will heal and he will be fine. Obviously if he tore ligaments in his arm or shoulder it's a different convo. With that being said Wheeler's durability is a 43 which is a bit low lol. I think Miller had a solid season in my franchise but it wasn't anything special and I think Wheeler plus a lower end prospect would get it done. However, that's just my opinion and I'm far from a expert

Ok. That is important. Basically flips my opinions about Miller. Wheeler+ lower prospect will get it done

[Tmizzle]

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Ok. That is important. Basically flips my opinions about Miller. Wheeler+ lower prospect will get it done

Exactly lol