MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

**WaitTilNextYear** · 08-02-2016, 10:57 PM

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Since we are all opining on Matt Duffy, let me just say that I don't think he'll hit for enough power to be a consistently valuable 3B. He profiles at 2B a bit better. The Rays may agree with me since Longo is not going anywhere.

I think it was a pretty even deal if Moore can stay healthy.

**GamecocksLaw17** · 08-02-2016, 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear

Since we are all opining on Matt Duffy, let me just say that I don't think he'll hit for enough power to be a consistently valuable 3B. He profiles at 2B a bit better. The Rays may agree with me since Longo is not going anywhere.

I think it was a pretty even deal if Moore can stay healthy.

I actually read the Rays are going to play him at short. If he can even be average there defensively his offensive profile goes from good not great at 3rd to great/upper end at SS

**WaitTilNextYear** · 08-02-2016, 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by NothingTrivial

Winter 2016 as the Nats coming off a 106-56 record and a NLDS loss to the Dodgers I'm ready to make a change. I wasn't happy with Revere or Espinosa and have put Turner in CF full time. That leaves me with Espinosa at SS which isn't going to work. Is there anyway I can work out a deal with the angels for Andrelton Simmons. His 2016 was worth 1.81 war with a slighty decreasing BB% and increasing K% at 13%. I'm wondering if I could get him to the Nats without moving Giolito or Turner. Would a package headlined by Reynaldo Lopez and Erik Fedde get them to listen?

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I think so, but more stats are needed to judge. If he's at 1.8 WAR, then he's probably putting up negative value on offense. Simmons is worth 1.8+ WAR on defense alone.

**WaitTilNextYear** · 08-02-2016, 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17

I actually read the Rays are going to play him at short. If he can even be average there defensively his offensive profile goes from good not great at 3rd to great/upper end at SS

That's the risk for TB; Duffy might not have a lot of value going forward without a position change. The risk for SF, of course, is Matt Moore staying upright.

**NothingTrivial** · 08-02-2016, 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear

I think so, but more stats are needed to judge. If he's at 1.8 WAR, then he's probably putting up negative value on offense. Simmons is worth 1.8+ WAR on defense alone.

Don't have exact numbers in front of me but he had a sub .240 average, .300 on base give or take a few points. 8 hr, rbi total in the 40s.

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**KBLover** · 08-02-2016, 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear

I think so, but more stats are needed to judge. If he's at 1.8 WAR, then he's probably putting up negative value on offense. Simmons is worth 1.8+ WAR on defense alone.

Does MLB The Show include defense in it's WAR calculation? Wonder how it does it, if so.

Wish we could see the run value components...

**CBoller1331** · 08-02-2016, 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by KBLover

Does MLB The Show include defense in it's WAR calculation? Wonder how it does it, if so.

Wish we could see the run value components...

I think it uses fielding % somehow...which is kinda bleh...but i guess its better than nothing. I think it also has "range factor" too...but Im not 100% what that means...or how they calculate it

**KBLover** · 08-02-2016, 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by CBoller1331

I think it uses fielding % somehow...which is kinda bleh...but i guess its better than nothing. I think it also has "range factor" too...but Im not 100% what that means...or how they calculate it

Range Factor - I think that is the stat.

((PO + A) / def. Innings) *9

If it's using range factor...I guess I was thinking along the same lines by trying to use it when I tried to calc WAR myself from The Show's stats. Figured it was easier than trying to replicate UZR lol.

Better than FPct at least if that's the case.

**Friars02** · 08-02-2016, 11:39 PM

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Hey guys, at the deadline in my Padres franchise in Year 1. We are in last in the NL West with a record of 45-59. Looking to sell, especially looking to trade Tyson Ross.

Ross has a good year so far. He is 10-4 with a 3.41 ERA, 3.08 FIP, 9.51 K/9, 3.13 BB/9, and a 2.5 WAR. The two teams that I have that would be interested in him are the Cubs and the Rangers. Other pieces I could package to these teams would be Derek Norris (.262/.341/.402 7 HR 48 RBI 1.7 WAR) and Francisco Rodney (2.57 ERA 2.87 FIP 9.03 K/9 4.05 BB/9 15 SV).

From the Cubs, I like Gleyber Torres (AA .278/.352/.420 8 HR 43 RBI 21 SB), Billy McKinney (AAA .258/.355/.401 1 HR 35 RBI) and CJ Edwards (MLB 10 G 0 GS 2.31 ERA .851 WHIP). I also like Ian Happ. Vogelbach as well but to a lesser extent. I don't think Cubs would trade Schwarber/Soler/Baez in a Ross deal but I would love to know if any of you guys think differently.

From the Rangers, I like Lewis Brinson (AA .231/.290/.428 11 HR 13 SB 21% K), Joey Gallo (AAA .218/.303/.504 43% K 17 HR), Michael Matuella/Dillon Tate (both just came off DL), and Connor Sadzeck.

I would love to here your guys' opinions.

Thanks

**CBoller1331** · 08-02-2016, 11:50 PM

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Benintendi is currently batting .000 in the MLB. Trade him to the Braves now.

**redsox4evur** · 08-02-2016, 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by CBoller1331

Benintendi is currently batting .000 in the MLB. Trade him to the Braves now.

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**biggio7** · 08-03-2016, 10:21 AM

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Question, I didn't start it yet but I will. I'm going to do a 30-team control. I was wondering, what teams do you think Puig would best fit on? I was figuring a not so high profile place. And, what do you think his value would be or would the Dodgers just take whoever they could get for him?

**NothingTrivial** · 08-03-2016, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear

I think so, but more stats are needed to judge. If he's at 1.8 WAR, then he's probably putting up negative value on offense. Simmons is worth 1.8+ WAR on defense alone.

Full stats. I misread, Andrelton was at 2.8 war. He hit .242/.298/.362 for a 64 win angels team.

Reynaldo Lopez: 3.05 Era, 2.97 FIP, 113k, 34 BB in 98.2 innings in AAA.

Erick Fedde: 2.64 ERA, 3.30 FIP, 88k, 48 BB in 122.2 innings in AA.

Lopez is 70ovr, 90 pot
Fedde is 68ovr, 84 pot

What kind of other pieces would need to be involved?

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**Tmizzle** · 08-03-2016, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by cubsgocontinental23

Oh it definitely was Duffy had a 4.9 WAR in his rookie season. Not many people do that, he's always gonna be a plus defender and even if he's having a bad year(some may call it a sophomore slump) he could have easily been the ROY last year if KB wasn't in the majors yet. I believe he alone is worth more than Matt Moore, a guy who has a 4 ERA the year after Tommy John. They really overpaid in this trade. His BABIP is also incredibly low this year so he could be down offensively partly due to "bad luck". Matt Moore highest WAR season was 2.7 that shouldn't be something you trade your future 3B for.

Duffy being dealt just showed that the Giants farm suffered big after the Smith deal. I think I may pass on Moore and just mirror the Meyer & Nolasco for Hector Santiago deal. I would love Moore but in my game it is really unrealistic for the Rays to deal Moore as they are in 1st place in the East and he is pitching very good. I was either choosing between Wood or Santiago. I wanted Patrick Corbon but it would cost a lot.

**WaitTilNextYear** · 08-03-2016, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by NothingTrivial

Full stats. I misread, Andrelton was at 2.8 war. He hit .242/.298/.362 for a 64 win angels team.

Reynaldo Lopez: 3.05 Era, 2.97 FIP, 113k, 34 BB in 98.2 innings in AAA.

Erick Fedde: 2.64 ERA, 3.30 FIP, 88k, 48 BB in 122.2 innings in AA.

Lopez is 70ovr, 90 pot
Fedde is 68ovr, 84 pot

What kind of other pieces would need to be involved?

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Honestly I sort of like this deal as is.

The last time Simmons was traded, it was along with non-prospect Jose Briceno for Erick Aybar (who the Braves viewed as a contributing MLB player), Sean Newcomb (the guy they really wanted and a Top 100 prospect), and Chris Ellis (not a Top 100 guy, ranks #16 in the Braves' system currently on MLB dot com).

Comparing that to what your proposal is, Reynaldo Lopez is a bit lower in value than Newcomb, but Fedde >> Ellis, so that makes up a little for not including a better 1st prospect and an Erick Aybar (and cash) in the deal. If it makes you feel any better, you could look into sending the Angels a fringy player that could be a stop gap at SS after they trade Simmons away.

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