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  • underdog13
    MVP
    • Apr 2012
    • 3222

    #406
    Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

    Seems like the menu options don't even matter.
    Turn off manager tips, oh look I still get manager tips in franchise.
    Turn off showtime, still get showtime in rtts.
    Turn off Ball Trail, still get it in rtts.
    PSN: Dalton1985
    Steam: Failure To Communicate

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    • JKSportsGamer1984
      MVP
      • May 2014
      • 1414

      #407
      Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

      Originally posted by WhiteBunny
      It's not a PS4 issue. The real problem is devs using the same old PS3 engine. It was an engine made for another system, a different one with a very specific architecture and specs. The next-gen The Show is a remastered version of the old one with some middleware ( like the one for lighting ) to upgrade the graphic. Remastering for another system is a very difficult process, it's not because you're using an outdated engine the game will run smoother in a more powerful console or pc. Usually it's quite the opposite. There are old games that struggle on high-end pc and others that perform better on PS4 or Xboxone even if you're using a good gaming pc. Or take the Bethesda games. Fallout 4 performance wise is a disgrace. It's not a PS4 or XOne issue. It's just because Bethesda continue to use a really old game engine, the infamous Gamebryo, with a ton of middleware. If you're interested, check the interview to Naughty Dogs about the remastered version of The Last Of Us: it was really a difficult task to achieve. Until devs will use this old engine, The Show will have framerate issues. According to Digital Foundry, MLB The Show 09 was 1080p and 60 fps. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/ml...1080p60-on-ps3 Now ask yourself why with the same old engine and overall the same graphic ( minus middleware ) the game is performing really bad in comparison. OS is a lovely comunity, full of passion and true baseball fans, i really like it, but technical wise is like they live on Mars. It's always your TV ( which can only affect input lag ). It's always your PS4 ( the same for everyone ) or your The Show copy. It was a decision by San Diego the one to port the old version of The Show on PS4 using the same old game engine. Probably because it's a small studio and they don't have enough resources and time to build a new one. When you switch from an engine to another, you are starting from zero, you lose pretty much everything you've done before. Every dev from San Diego can confirm this, for sure. They probably will not and for the same reason they don't talk about framerate since the first The Show on PS4. Again, ask yourself why. Advertise a game running at 60fps nowdays it's a big selling point. The Show 17 will perform pretty much the same and so The Show 18, until the moment they change the engine. Well, it's a wall of text but i hope it makes things a little more clear for everybody.
      You make some very valid points, however if this is the case how do you explain a game like Madden who also ported over the same engine from last gen but yet manages to run 1080p at a solid 60 fps. SCEA blamed the frame rate drops on how detailed the crowd is, but yet Madden's stadiums are a lot larger & have much more people in the crowds & also more players on the field. Any explanation for that?

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      • Jolly Roger
        Prince of Plakata
        • Sep 2011
        • 871

        #408
        Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

        It's also apparent they fixed the outfield throwing accuracy problems from last year. Most throws are on the money now. Nice.

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        • Skyboxer
          Donny Baseball!
          • Jul 2002
          • 20302

          #409
          Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

          Plan to start my franchise tonight. Really pumped to get it going.

          Anyway I submitted a bug report but:
          If you have scoreboard display OFF and use L on D-Pad you will lock up.
          Joshua:
          "D.O.D. pension files indicate current mailing as: Dr. Robert Hume,
          a.k.a. Stephen W. Falken, 5 Tall Cedar Road, Goose Island, Oregon"


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          • Spokker
            Pro
            • May 2014
            • 615

            #410
            Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

            Originally posted by underdog13
            Seems like the menu options don't even matter.
            Turn off manager tips, oh look I still get manager tips in franchise.
            Turn off showtime, still get showtime in rtts.
            Turn off Ball Trail, still get it in rtts.
            Are you changing them in the main menu or in-game? If you change them in game, they won't save.

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            • underdog13
              MVP
              • Apr 2012
              • 3222

              #411
              Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

              Originally posted by Spokker
              Are you changing them in the main menu or in-game? If you change them in game, they won't save.
              Oh no they are set perfectly fine, they are just bugged and dont work.

              Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk
              PSN: Dalton1985
              Steam: Failure To Communicate

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              • Stolm
                Pro
                • May 2012
                • 649

                #412
                Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                Game is extraordinarily buggy this year.

                On/Off options that don't work.

                Game hard freezing numerous times.

                Online games locking up in the later innings.

                Extreme framerate issues in certain ballparks.

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                • Beatles
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 413

                  #413
                  Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                  I went into the bottom of the 7th with a DD game and the crowd sang take me out to the ballgame! They were standing up and everything!!! Granted, it was as the game was going and it's supposed to be in between innings but why can't this happen in exhibition games too? Does it happen in franchise?

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                  • Skyboxer
                    Donny Baseball!
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 20302

                    #414
                    Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                    Originally posted by Beatles
                    I went into the bottom of the 7th with a DD game and the crowd sang take me out to the ballgame! They were standing up and everything!!! Granted, it was as the game was going and it's supposed to be in between innings but why can't this happen in exhibition games too? Does it happen in franchise?
                    SOTS lets you have whatever you want
                    Joshua:
                    "D.O.D. pension files indicate current mailing as: Dr. Robert Hume,
                    a.k.a. Stephen W. Falken, 5 Tall Cedar Road, Goose Island, Oregon"


                    Skyboxer OS TWITCH
                    STEAM
                    PSN: Skyboxeros
                    SWITCH 8211-0709-4612
                    XBOX Skyboxer OS

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                    • Glenn33
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 2455

                      #415
                      Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                      Conquest mode has given me a reason to care about Diamond Dynasty...and boy do I ever. I'm all in. My biggest issue is 3 innings is too short. It really takes the strategy part of baseball outof the game and just seems like a mad scramble to get a run across. I undertand the good intentions to make it a quick and fun experience. I think what would have been a better option is to have 6 inning games with Quick Counts.

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                      • Chad0034
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 178

                        #416
                        Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by countryboy
                        Any one else loving the hit variety? I'm pulling frozen ropes down the line, fighting off jam shots with bloopers over the fielder's head, reaching for a pitch and poking it somewhere.


                        Man I'm in love with this game.
                        What difficulty are you playing on? Im starting to see some good hit variety as well

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                        • 2ndBase
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 450

                          #417
                          Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                          I'm liking the hit variety and the visible but subtle gap between a great defensive player and a poor one. The great ones seem to stand out more this year. Seems to be more dying quails and shots down the line as far as hits go.

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                          • Beatles
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2014
                            • 413

                            #418
                            Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                            So I finally went to go check out Battle Royale mode and low and behold, it's only online. Oh well. At least conquest let's you play without a PS+ account.

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                            • yungkingston
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 42

                              #419
                              Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                              Originally posted by Stolm
                              Game is extraordinarily buggy this year.

                              On/Off options that don't work.

                              Game hard freezing numerous times.

                              Online games locking up in the later innings.

                              Extreme framerate issues in certain ballparks.
                              Co-sign....ridiculous.

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                              • nomo17k
                                Permanently Banned
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 5735

                                #420
                                Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                                Originally posted by WhiteBunny
                                It's not a PS4 issue. The real problem is devs using the same old PS3 engine. It was an engine made for another system, a different one with a very specific architecture and specs. The next-gen The Show is a remastered version of the old one with some middleware ( like the one for lighting ) to upgrade the graphic. Remastering for another system is a very difficult process, it's not because you're using an outdated engine the game will run smoother in a more powerful console or pc. Usually it's quite the opposite. There are old games that struggle on high-end pc and others that perform better on PS4 or Xboxone even if you're using a good gaming pc. Or take the Bethesda games. Fallout 4 performance wise is a disgrace. It's not a PS4 or XOne issue. It's just because Bethesda continue to use a really old game engine, the infamous Gamebryo, with a ton of middleware. If you're interested, check the interview to Naughty Dogs about the remastered version of The Last Of Us: it was really a difficult task to achieve. Until devs will use this old engine, The Show will have framerate issues. According to Digital Foundry, MLB The Show 09 was 1080p and 60 fps. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/ml...1080p60-on-ps3 Now ask yourself why with the same old engine and overall the same graphic ( minus middleware ) the game is performing really bad in comparison. OS is a lovely comunity, full of passion and true baseball fans, i really like it, but technical wise is like they live on Mars. It's always your TV ( which can only affect input lag ). It's always your PS4 ( the same for everyone ) or your The Show copy. It was a decision by San Diego the one to port the old version of The Show on PS4 using the same old game engine. Probably because it's a small studio and they don't have enough resources and time to build a new one. When you switch from an engine to another, you are starting from zero, you lose pretty much everything you've done before. Every dev from San Diego can confirm this, for sure. They probably will not and for the same reason they don't talk about framerate since the first The Show on PS4. Again, ask yourself why. Advertise a game running at 60fps nowdays it's a big selling point. The Show 17 will perform pretty much the same and so The Show 18, until the moment they change the engine. Well, it's a wall of text but i hope it makes things a little more clear for everybody.

                                This is indeed very interesting observation and I wouldn't be surprised this really is the reason why the frame rate in PS4 iterations have been a bit disappointing. With MLB 14 (the first year The Show was on PS4), I continued to play on PS3 for a while as the difference in the frame rate was quite noticeable and the PS3 version simply played much smoother.

                                And I think it is definitely correct the PS4 version hasn't caught up in that regard, even this iteration. There definitely are much more graphics to be appreciated, but when some stuttering occurs while a pitch is coming to you or when the camera is panning very fast with a big detailed crowd/graphic elements in the view, I wonder if all that detail is necessary when they are not appreciable in detail anyways.

                                Some PC games have settings where graphical details can optionally be cut down to gain more processing power for more critical components. I wonder something similar is possible with The Show.
                                The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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