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  • Skyboxer
    Donny Baseball!
    • Jul 2002
    • 20302

    #406
    Re: Baserunning

    Originally posted by countryboy
    Try changing your sliding option from AUTO to ASSISTED and see if that stops runners from sliding when they are instructed to advance past that particular base.

    Could be an issue with AUTO sliding and not an issue with the ASSISTED baserunning controls.

    The better you can narrow down the variables, the better chance you have of it being recreated by the dev team so that they can find that code and get it fixed.
    Originally posted by Armor and Sword
    He stated both are set to assisted (Default running and sliding)

    So he is seeing this problem without using L1..giving direct commands to his base-runner on second on a base hit up the middle to head home...and he slides into third instead.
    Originally posted by countryboy
    Oh I misread what he wrote then. I thought he was only using assisted baserunning.

    I'm not sure then. I haven't seen the issue myself.

    I use the LS + ICON (just like last year with 0 issues) and this issue is real.

    It seems (Pretty sure I posted this already) if the ball touches the IF or if an infielder is making an attempt at the ball (Bloop etc..) the runner on 2nd will slide into 3rd. A clean hit in the air to OF and the runner will round base and head home like told to. (I've tried auto also)
    It has happened numerous times to me.

    I've yet fired up a game since latest patch but hope to tonight.
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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52712

      #407
      Re: Baserunning

      Originally posted by Skyboxer
      I use the LS + ICON (just like last year with 0 issues) and this issue is real.

      It seems (Pretty sure I posted this already) if the ball touches the IF or if an infielder is making an attempt at the ball (Bloop etc..) the runner on 2nd will slide into 3rd. A clean hit in the air to OF and the runner will round base and head home like told to. (I've tried auto also)
      It has happened numerous times to me.

      I've yet fired up a game since latest patch but hope to tonight.
      Like I said I've not seen it myself. Just trying to offer up some assistance.
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      • Skyboxer
        Donny Baseball!
        • Jul 2002
        • 20302

        #408
        Re: Baserunning

        Originally posted by countryboy
        Like I said I've not seen it myself. Just trying to offer up some assistance.
        Oh I know man. That is what is very odd to me. I've(and others) seen it numerous times and some never..
        Again I am doing the same thing I did last year with 0 issues. Don't get it.
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        • Unlucky 13
          MVP
          • Apr 2009
          • 1707

          #409
          Re: Baserunning

          Guys, thank you for the tip about assist for sliding. I hadn't messed with that option, and I'll change it and see if it helps.
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          • Armor and Sword
            The Lama
            • Sep 2010
            • 21789

            #410
            Re: Baserunning

            Originally posted by Skyboxer
            I use the LS + ICON (just like last year with 0 issues) and this issue is real.

            It seems (Pretty sure I posted this already) if the ball touches the IF or if an infielder is making an attempt at the ball (Bloop etc..) the runner on 2nd will slide into 3rd. A clean hit in the air to OF and the runner will round base and head home like told to. (I've tried auto also)
            It has happened numerous times to me.

            I've yet fired up a game since latest patch but hope to tonight.


            Key fact about the ball touching the infield or an infielder making a play on it causing it.
            Clean hits i have not seen it. Others have reported the ball hitting the infield causing it.

            So that must be a huge reason it triggers the slide and overrides the home command.
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            • cas850
              Rookie
              • Mar 2011
              • 181

              #411
              Re: Baserunning

              Originally posted by Armor and Sword
              Key fact about the ball touching the infield or an infielder making a play on it causing it.
              Clean hits i have not seen it. Others have reported the ball hitting the infield causing it.

              So that must be a huge reason it triggers the slide and overrides the home command.
              Makes sense. The only thing I question now is if you can possibly be fast enough to enter the command for home before this happens. I've been extremely fast and sometimes the runner will have made up his mind to slide before halfway to 3rd. You can see the visual feedback of the runner icon, but it stays at "3rd" and won't change no matter what at that point. It's been like that since 1.0 so I think it may be something we have to live with at this point.

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              • GeorgePatton360
                Rookie
                • Aug 2009
                • 15

                #412
                Re: Baserunning

                Originally posted by Armor and Sword

                Anyway.....scientific fact huh? I am not arguing if it exists. I have yet to see your exact situation in all the games I have played thus far....odd you think?
                My man...I'm not trying to get in a pissing match with you. In fact I use and have contributed to threads for your very sliders. I appreciate what you do here, believe me.

                However, 1,000's of people across various sites reporting THE SAME problem is the epitome of scientific fact! I also however acknowledge that I've played enough sports games in my life to know that MANY will experience a glitch while SOME do not...That doesn't preclude its existence.

                I will try to DL vid's, but between fam, school and work my time is very limited (as I'm sure many of yours are)...Not to mention the sheer anger one feels while losing a game at the end because of said glitch can lead you to shut down your ps4 and take a break during the little gaming time you have.

                ADDING TO THE OVERALL SOLUTION-DISCUSSION:

                -The proponderance of occurrences occur on hits up the middle.

                -It seems that those hits up the middle causing the issue are groundballs, however I can remember occurrences in which balls hit to LF/RF have caused the same issue.

                -The issue ALWAYS involves the runner sliding into 3rd base as though they expect a throw...The slide is the killer....The slide occurs in spite of the 3rd base coach waving them in, which is another indicator of correct user-input.

                I can get over L1/R1 having a delay (IMO) that renders them almost useless, but this particular issues is VERY SITUATIONAL, and we all know how situational good baseball really is. :-(

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                • GeorgePatton360
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 15

                  #413
                  Re: Baserunning

                  My most recent occurrence involved runners on 1st and 2nd, with 1 out. A groundball was hit up the middle, while the 2B dove for it, he did not make contact, but dove over the ball as he arrived late.

                  Rajai freakin Davis slides at third (lol), I try and send him because my second year Braves offense is so terrible, and I get hosed.

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                  • Armor and Sword
                    The Lama
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 21789

                    #414
                    Re: Baserunning

                    Originally posted by GeorgePatton360
                    My man...I'm not trying to get in a pissing match with you. In fact I use and have contributed to threads for your very sliders. I appreciate what you do here, believe me.

                    However, 1,000's of people across various sites reporting THE SAME problem is the epitome of scientific fact! I also however acknowledge that I've played enough sports games in my life to know that MANY will experience a glitch while SOME do not...That doesn't preclude its existence.

                    I will try to DL vid's, but between fam, school and work my time is very limited (as I'm sure many of yours are)...Not to mention the sheer anger one feels while losing a game at the end because of said glitch can lead you to shut down your ps4 and take a break during the little gaming time you have.

                    ADDING TO THE OVERALL SOLUTION-DISCUSSION:

                    -The proponderance of occurrences occur on hits up the middle.

                    -It seems that those hits up the middle causing the issue are groundballs, however I can remember occurrences in which balls hit to LF/RF have caused the same issue.

                    -The issue ALWAYS involves the runner sliding into 3rd base as though they expect a throw...The slide is the killer....The slide occurs in spite of the 3rd base coach waving them in, which is another indicator of correct user-input.

                    I can get over L1/R1 having a delay (IMO) that renders them almost useless, but this particular issues is VERY SITUATIONAL, and we all know how situational good baseball really is. :-(


                    Yeah all good. Seems like balls hit through the infield and into the outfield up the middle is a root cause. Throw sone vids up too.

                    Have you poated a bug report for it with a vid?
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                    • GeorgePatton360
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 15

                      #415
                      Re: Baserunning

                      Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                      Yeah all good. Seems like balls hit through the infield and into the outfield up the middle is a root cause. Throw sone vids up too.

                      Have you poated a bug report for it with a vid?
                      I have a few days off this week, I'll learn how to upload vids. I assume it has to do with PS Share button? Honestly man, I've had my PS4 for two years and have never used the Share option.

                      But groundballs up the middle seem to be the biggest commonality...Has to have something to do with the ball being behind the runner and their AI thereafter.

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                      • Skyboxer
                        Donny Baseball!
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 20302

                        #416
                        Re: Baserunning

                        Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                        Yeah all good. Seems like balls hit through the infield and into the outfield up the middle is a root cause. Throw sone vids up too.

                        Have you poated a bug report for it with a vid?
                        There was a bug report a few weeks ago that I added my comments on and posted links to videos of this happening. And yep I have not had the issue at all if the hit is a fly ball /line drive hit...
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                        • KBLover
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 12172

                          #417
                          Re: Baserunning

                          Originally posted by GeorgePatton360
                          My most recent occurrence involved runners on 1st and 2nd, with 1 out. A groundball was hit up the middle, while the 2B dove for it, he did not make contact, but dove over the ball as he arrived late.

                          Rajai freakin Davis slides at third (lol), I try and send him because my second year Braves offense is so terrible, and I get hosed.

                          What's interesting about this is it doesn't seem to happen on autobaserunning? Has anyone using that interface seen this?

                          I can't think of it happening to me even in this situation, but I use autobaserunning.

                          If it doesn't happen on autobaserunning, is it because the CPU is "quick enough" to do whatever you need to do to prevent the slide behavior?
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                          • No.27
                            Pro
                            • Dec 2015
                            • 543

                            #418
                            Re: Baserunning

                            Originally posted by KBLover
                            What's interesting about this is it doesn't seem to happen on autobaserunning? Has anyone using that interface seen this?

                            I can't think of it happening to me even in this situation, but I use autobaserunning.

                            If it doesn't happen on autobaserunning, is it because the CPU is "quick enough" to do whatever you need to do to prevent the slide behavior?
                            I'm strictly auto baserunning as well and I'm not seeing any of these shenanigans either.

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                            • Armor and Sword
                              The Lama
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 21789

                              #419
                              Re: Baserunning

                              Question on auto base running.

                              I can take over for any or all runners whenever I want correct? If that is the case...then I can just turn that on but still just do what I do all the time and not worry about this sliding bug showing up.
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                              • Unlucky 13
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 1707

                                #420
                                Re: Baserunning

                                One thing since the patch that might be related to baserunning, but might just be concidance....

                                When you do a hit and run with a man on first, the SS moves towards second base, opening up a hole that a ground ball can go through to his right. I've always used this to my advantage, and if nothing else it gives me guys on first and second when it works.

                                Since the latest patch though, almost every grounder I've hit when sending the runner has gone straight to second base where the SS is right there waiting for it, and he basically tags the runner then throws the ball to first. Its an animation that I don't think I'd ever seen before, but now I see almost every game. Small sample, so it might just be bad luck on my part, but it feels like something has changed in the odds of what happens in that situation.
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