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  • Unlucky 13
    MVP
    • Apr 2009
    • 1707

    #481
    Re: Baserunning

    Though I touch the L2 and R2 buttons all the time as far as batting goes, I'd say that I'm 99.99% certain that I'm not hitting L1/R1 when this is happening. And the last game I played, I had several times where it clearly happened when the only button I hit was X or circle.

    Basically, it happens on any ball hit in play where I have a man on second or third, and on any hit where I have a man on first that's not a deep, gapper double. It never happens with no one on base. I honestly don't know how people think and react quickly enough to move multiple runners manually this way. Its ended up turning a lot of could be doubles into singles, and a lot of runners stranded on base.

    However, I will say that this is the only baserunning problem that I'm having, and not the weird ones that other people describe. Well, aside from guys making it to second before the ball does on a stolen base and still being called out. That seems to be a total crapshoot as far as what the call will be.
    Anyone who claims to be a fan of two teams in the same pro sport is actually a fan of none.

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    • KBLover
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2009
      • 12172

      #482
      Re: Baserunning

      Originally posted by Unlucky 13
      Well, aside from guys making it to second before the ball does on a stolen base and still being called out. That seems to be a total crapshoot as far as what the call will be.

      Yeah, I think that might be some sort of "Frame timing", i.e. if the tag goes down before X frame, it's an out. Or if the tag goes down before X total frames have passed, it's an out.

      Sometimes it looks questionable, even though I have close calls on "Perfect". That's my theory anyway. I've seen plays were guys are called safe on animations (including when the tag goes down) where the guy is called out. Only way I can explain it, short of bug/glitch (especially since I use "Perfect" close calls), is frames. A frame or two here or there either way might look the same to our eyes.
      "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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      • Unlucky 13
        MVP
        • Apr 2009
        • 1707

        #483
        Re: Baserunning

        Originally posted by KBLover
        Yeah, I think that might be some sort of "Frame timing", i.e. if the tag goes down before X frame, it's an out. Or if the tag goes down before X total frames have passed, it's an out.

        Sometimes it looks questionable, even though I have close calls on "Perfect". That's my theory anyway. I've seen plays were guys are called safe on animations (including when the tag goes down) where the guy is called out. Only way I can explain it, short of bug/glitch (especially since I use "Perfect" close calls), is frames. A frame or two here or there either way might look the same to our eyes.
        Yeah, that makes sense. I've had a lot of times where my runner tries for a double and looks like he should be out, but is called safe.
        Anyone who claims to be a fan of two teams in the same pro sport is actually a fan of none.

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        • jacksondco
          Rookie
          • Jul 2012
          • 6

          #484
          Re: Baserunning

          Any word on this ever getting fixed? I'm pretty much done with this game

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          • lowkey_loc
            Rookie
            • Nov 2009
            • 57

            #485
            Re: Baserunning

            Waiting patiently for this to be fixed. But it's getting frustrating. Tried manual/assisted baserunning but to many F'ups on the base pads that cost me runs, extended innings etc.. Everything else in this game I'm content with. Love the challenge with batting. Love the pitching. Love the game. Just can't handle this baserunning glitch. Ugh!! Praying🙏

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            • p00p1
              Pro
              • Aug 2002
              • 987

              #486
              Re: Baserunning

              Originally posted by Unlucky 13
              Though I touch the L2 and R2 buttons all the time as far as batting goes, I'd say that I'm 99.99% certain that I'm not hitting L1/R1 when this is happening. And the last game I played, I had several times where it clearly happened when the only button I hit was X or circle.

              Basically, it happens on any ball hit in play where I have a man on second or third, and on any hit where I have a man on first that's not a deep, gapper double. It never happens with no one on base. I honestly don't know how people think and react quickly enough to move multiple runners manually this way. Its ended up turning a lot of could be doubles into singles, and a lot of runners stranded on base.

              However, I will say that this is the only baserunning problem that I'm having, and not the weird ones that other people describe. Well, aside from guys making it to second before the ball does on a stolen base and still being called out. That seems to be a total crapshoot as far as what the call will be.
              I think R2 will cause it, I think that is the command to stop.

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              • BlueJays09
                MVP
                • Jul 2011
                • 2553

                #487
                Re: Baserunning

                Has this been fixed yet? It turns to manual baserunning every time I have guys in scoring position and it costs me runs and games every time!!


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                • bcruise
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 23274

                  #488
                  Re: Baserunning

                  Originally posted by BlueJays09
                  Has this been fixed yet? It turns to manual baserunning every time I have guys in scoring position and it costs me runs and games every time!!


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                  JMO - you're not going to see a fix unless/until the devs acknowledge there is an issue. To this point they have not (and they have commented on this before).

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                  • Unlucky 13
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 1707

                    #489
                    Re: Baserunning

                    Originally posted by p00p1
                    I think R2 will cause it, I think that is the command to stop.
                    If so, then its not an issue I can overcome. I guess the pitch every single time, and I cannot play without doing so.

                    I also have absolutely no idea how people who choose to direct the players manually accomplish it when you have multiple guys on base and hit a ball that should be a double. It seems impossible to move your hands that fast. Not something I'm good at. With men on base, any hit I get is either a HR or a single, and I just try to move the lead runner as far as I can.
                    Anyone who claims to be a fan of two teams in the same pro sport is actually a fan of none.

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                    • Unlucky 13
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 1707

                      #490
                      Re: Baserunning

                      Originally posted by bcruise
                      JMO - you're not going to see a fix unless/until the devs acknowledge there is an issue. To this point they have not (and they have commented on this before).
                      If true, then they either intentionally made a change that made their game much worse, or either have accidentally broken it so badly that they can't figure out how to fix it. At this point, I wish that I could just go back to how the game played out of the box without the patches, because it was just fine back in April.
                      Anyone who claims to be a fan of two teams in the same pro sport is actually a fan of none.

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                      • bcruise
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 23274

                        #491
                        Re: Baserunning

                        Originally posted by Unlucky 13
                        If true, then they either intentionally made a change that made their game much worse, or either have accidentally broken it so badly that they can't figure out how to fix it. At this point, I wish that I could just go back to how the game played out of the box without the patches, because it was just fine back in April.
                        Just search for Woodweaver and Russell's posts in this very (admittedly long) thread. That's your proof. They presumably haven't commented since because they have nothing new to add.

                        They cannot fix something they cannot duplicate. And, btw - those posts from when they were talking about these same issues, are back from April. This wasn't a new problem introduced to everyone with a patch.

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                        • KBLover
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 12172

                          #492
                          Re: Baserunning

                          Originally posted by Unlucky 13
                          I also have absolutely no idea how people who choose to direct the players manually accomplish it when you have multiple guys on base and hit a ball that should be a double. It seems impossible to move your hands that fast. Not something I'm good at. With men on base, any hit I get is either a HR or a single, and I just try to move the lead runner as far as I can.

                          Probably the only time I consistently override is when balls are hit high off the Monster (the Monster in general can cause baserunning "intrigue")

                          I use the High in-play camera so I get an idea of the carry, direction the ball shadow is moving and an early look on how the LF is preparing to play the ball. I glance up at the runner icons and see how they are behaving.

                          When I have the feeling it will hit off the wall, I hit L1 as early as I can tell and that moves them along 2 bases if they aren't doing it on their own.

                          Otherwise, they tend to be decent, if sometimes a touch overaggressive - but nothing egregious. So "Monster hits" are about the only times I get ready to override.
                          "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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                          • Unlucky 13
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 1707

                            #493
                            Re: Baserunning

                            Originally posted by KBLover
                            Probably the only time I consistently override is when balls are hit high off the Monster (the Monster in general can cause baserunning "intrigue")

                            I use the High in-play camera so I get an idea of the carry, direction the ball shadow is moving and an early look on how the LF is preparing to play the ball. I glance up at the runner icons and see how they are behaving.

                            When I have the feeling it will hit off the wall, I hit L1 as early as I can tell and that moves them along 2 bases if they aren't doing it on their own.

                            Otherwise, they tend to be decent, if sometimes a touch overaggressive - but nothing egregious. So "Monster hits" are about the only times I get ready to override.
                            My game worked well out of the box, but was broken by one of the latter patches, unfortunately. What happens is that if no one is on base, or usually if a man is on first (but not 2nd or 3rd), the auto kicks in and does its thing. Works fine, as it always had before.

                            However, if I have a man on second or third, then the arrows pop up, and the runners will move at most one base unless I direct them otherwise. For example, a man on second will never try to score, even on a deep gapper double, nor will the batter try to run past first, no matter how well the ball was hit. They're as conservative as possible, and even when I order them to go, they often pause at each base, leading to being gunned down.
                            Anyone who claims to be a fan of two teams in the same pro sport is actually a fan of none.

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                            • knich
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 1116

                              #494
                              Re: Baserunning

                              Originally posted by bcruise
                              JMO - you're not going to see a fix unless/until the devs acknowledge there is an issue. To this point they have not (and they have commented on this before).
                              I am not sure how the devs can't duplicate this. Just play a single game with autobaserunning on. I have now played about 115 games and the autobaserunning has failed every single game multiple times. Although the autobaserunning was still broken before the latest patch, it was improved. Since the latest patch, not only is autobaserunning worse, but I am also now seeing more animations I did not see previously. For example, baserunner diving back to base on clear doubles headed in their direction. I had not seen this issue before. I am also seeing the autobaserunning disabling when I had not seen that before. It should be a simple enough fix since the base running worked as intended in years past. But each fix seems to create a new problem.

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                              • p00p1
                                Pro
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 987

                                #495
                                Re: Baserunning

                                Originally posted by Unlucky 13
                                If so, then its not an issue I can overcome. I guess the pitch every single time, and I cannot play without doing so.

                                I also have absolutely no idea how people who choose to direct the players manually accomplish it when you have multiple guys on base and hit a ball that should be a double. It seems impossible to move your hands that fast. Not something I'm good at. With men on base, any hit I get is either a HR or a single, and I just try to move the lead runner as far as I can.
                                Pressing R2 AFTER you hit the ball (or as you are swinging) will cause this. You don't have to hit R2 to guess the pitch while you are swinging.

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