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  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52695

    #61
    Re: The National League & the DH

    Originally posted by ChavezAthletics
    Of course there is strategy involved, my argument is that it is overated. Double switches, are they really that complicated? Not even close. Nothing in this game is complicated, any manager would tell you that. It's generally the fans who like to think they are more sophisticated than other sports fans. Every time I hear some yahoo comparing baseball to a chess match I fall out of my chair laughing. This is coming from a lifelong baseball fan who follows exactly ZERO other sports.
    Nothing in the game is complicated? As a guy who played from T-Ball through College I would highly disagree with you that nothing in the game is complicated. There are aspects of the game that are very much like a chess match, but I don't want you falling out of your chair and hurting yourself.
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    • SmooveMove
      MVP
      • Mar 2013
      • 1349

      #62
      Re: The National League & the DH

      Originally posted by ChavezAthletics
      Of course there is strategy involved, my argument is that it is overated. Double switches, are they really that complicated? Not even close. Nothing in this game is complicated, any manager would tell you that. It's generally the fans who like to think they are more sophisticated than other sports fans. Every time I hear some yahoo comparing baseball to a chess match I fall out of my chair laughing. This is coming from a lifelong baseball fan who follows exactly ZERO other sports.
      Why does it have to be "complicated". Even if it isn't it still adds another layer to a game that effects multiple situations. Some people want their baseball to stay that way. It doesn't matter if its complicated or not.
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      • SCSU1994
        Just started!
        • Jun 2013
        • 3

        #63
        Re: The National League & the DH

        Completely off topic but does anyone know a way to make custom divisions? My buddy and I always do a franchise where I'm the Yankees and he's the Mets. Last year they had the subway series every season in the game but this year it's only 2016. I want to put us in the same division so after one season we don't just sit there playing the PC.

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        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52695

          #64
          Re: The National League & the DH

          Originally posted by SCSU1994
          Completely off topic but does anyone know a way to make custom divisions? My buddy and I always do a franchise where I'm the Yankees and he's the Mets. Last year they had the subway series every season in the game but this year it's only 2016. I want to put us in the same division so after one season we don't just sit there playing the PC.
          There is no way of doing custom divisions unfortunately.
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          I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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          • JPCaveman13
            Rookie
            • Nov 2010
            • 280

            #65
            Re: The National League & the DH

            Originally posted by ChavezAthletics
            Of course there is strategy involved, my argument is that it is overated. Double switches, are they really that complicated? Not even close. Nothing in this game is complicated, any manager would tell you that. It's generally the fans who like to think they are more sophisticated than other sports fans. Every time I hear some yahoo comparing baseball to a chess match I fall out of my chair laughing. This is coming from a lifelong baseball fan who follows exactly ZERO other sports.
            No, double switches aren't complicated to pull off. The complexity comes from the situation surrounding it. Also, it's not really overrated to have to decide whether you can afford to have a defensive liability for an offensive boost.

            For argument's sake, it's Game Seven of the World Series in a NL park. Do you put Ortiz in the field so you can have his bat, knowing that his fielding range is about five feet in any direction, or do you sacrifice a definite run-producing threat for a more sure-handed, rangy fielder??

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            • timmermac
              Rookie
              • Nov 2010
              • 172

              #66
              Re: The National League & the DH

              Ahem.... Mike Hampton, anybody?

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              • ajra21
                MVP
                • Oct 2011
                • 2170

                #67
                Re: The National League & the DH

                Originally posted by TattooedEvil
                thats a bunch of bull....double switching has so much strategy. U know how many times i've watched a DS happen only for the game to go into extras with the pitcher spot ending up in the 3 hole. In the NL u can literally walk 2 batters just to make the manager make a decision....pull his starter early in hopes the PH hits a jack, or put his useless hitting pitcher (most of the time) at the plate and hope the bat hits the ball with his eyes closed. In the AL u might find a weak 8 or 9 hole hitter but if theres 2 outs and the winning runner on third and the 7 hole hitter is up theres no walking 2 batters to get to that pitcher and force the managers hand. AL strategy is slim to none. NL strategy starts before the lineup is even made.
                "doubling switches"? no, not really. so much of this stuff is overrated and doesn't really impact the game.

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                • countryboy
                  Growing pains
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 52695

                  #68
                  Re: The National League & the DH

                  Originally posted by ajra21
                  "doubling switches"? no, not really. so much of this stuff is overrated and doesn't really impact the game.
                  Are we both watching the same sport of baseball?
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                  • 41_Tom_Seaver_Fan
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 67

                    #69
                    Re: The National League & the DH

                    Originally posted by ajra21
                    "doubling switches"? no, not really. so much of this stuff is overrated and doesn't really impact the game.
                    Not meant as an insult, but you truly don't understand this game if you believe that. Listen to Harold Reynolds (a life long AL'er before Interleague started) during the World Series 2 years ago...even he gets really excited and makes an admission of how "boring" AL baseball was compared to the tension filled strategy of the NL game.

                    He PLAYED the game professionally.

                    David Ortiz's glove should be at first if you want him to hit...period.

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                    • Ghost Of The Year
                      Sweet Emotion.
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 6343

                      #70
                      Re: The National League & the DH

                      Originally posted by HozAndMoose
                      Show me. Back in January he said it could happen as early as 2017 when the next Cba negotiations are. Then he recanted that and said it was up to the owners and since the financials would change so much the NL owners aren't all that interested. Manfred doesn't get to make that call at all.
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                      • Speedy
                        #Ace
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 16143

                        #71
                        Re: The National League & the DH

                        Originally posted by letsgomets75
                        I understand why people like the DH but don't go after my boy Bartolo...
                        Originally posted by Gibson88
                        Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                        It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                        • Speedy
                          #Ace
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 16143

                          #72
                          Re: The National League & the DH

                          Originally posted by HozAndMoose
                          I don't care what the NL does.
                          Well then...

                          I don't care what the JUNIOR circuit does.
                          Originally posted by Gibson88
                          Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                          It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                          • Ghost Of The Year
                            Sweet Emotion.
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 6343

                            #73
                            Re: The National League & the DH

                            Originally posted by Speedy
                            Well then...

                            I don't care what the Western League does.

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                            • ChavezAthletics
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 41

                              #74
                              Re: The National League & the DH

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              Nothing in the game is complicated? As a guy who played from T-Ball through College I would highly disagree with you that nothing in the game is complicated. There are aspects of the game that are very much like a chess match, but I don't want you falling out of your chair and hurting yourself.
                              If "like a chess match" you mean that moves/decisions need to be anticipated and formulated in advance, well that kind of sounds like a typical Saturday - practices, games, recitals, errands, lunch, etc. Any Major League manager would have his hands full around here. But a chess match? What a joke. Some baseball fans need to get over themselves!

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                              • countryboy
                                Growing pains
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 52695

                                #75
                                Re: The National League & the DH

                                Originally posted by ChavezAthletics
                                If "like a chess match" you mean that moves/decisions need to be anticipated and formulated in advance, well that kind of sounds like a typical Saturday - practices, games, recitals, errands, lunch, etc. Any Major League manager would have his hands full around here. But a chess match? What a joke. Some baseball fans need to get over themselves!
                                And some need to actually get into the game.
                                I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                                I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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