Blatant AI Cheating

[sink4ever]

Re: Blatant AI Cheating

I want to walk through the logic of the cheating or comeback theory. What people are saying is that the developers, who obviously want to sell as many games as possible, intentionally put something in the game to make users lose in a very frustrating way, therefore making people not want to play or buy the game. Not only have we had the developers themselves say there's no comeback code or anything like that in the game, it simply does not make any sense from a logical standpoint.

[TripleCrown]

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Absolutely.
ZERO reason to put in anything like that...and there isn't.
IMO...just weak reasoning for bad losses or in game glitches.
There are certainly instances where a strange occurrence(glitch) will cost you a game.
But to think they coded the game to do that is even more ludicrous than when thinking it in games that were just bad losses.

M.K.
Knight165

I agree 100%. Just think at it guys. Those programmers are smart guys. If they would have created cheat code, why doing something so obvious when just a hanging curveball or a corner fastball not hitting his aim and in the middle of the plate would do the job.

I understand your frustration of losing on a glitch. Just report the glitch on shownation and they'll look at it i'm sure.

[Ghost Of The Year]

Re: Blatant AI Cheating

I want to walk through the logic of the cheating or comeback theory. What people are saying is that the developers, who obviously want to sell as many games as possible, intentionally put something in the game to make users lose in a very frustrating way, therefore making people not want to play or buy the game. Not only have we had the developers themselves say there's no comeback code or anything like that in the game, it simply does not make any sense from a logical standpoint.

Exactly. It's more plausible that someone broke into the Studio in the wee hours of the morning & recoded the game than Sony Devs intentionally coding it this way.
And that has zero plausiblity as well

[countryboy]

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Every year:

I was leading a game and the cpu came back to beat me. This game cheats!

I was trailing a game and came back to beat the cpu. This game is awesome!

Every....single.....year......

[jada855]

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So how does one explain coming into a game down by 3-5 runs after the first inning with no context of how it happened when playing a player lock or RTTS game!?

[countryboy]

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So how does one explain coming into a game down by 3-5 runs after the first inning with no context of how it happened when playing a player lock or RTTS game!?

a bug?

[WaitTilNextYear]

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The validity in this thread is that the OP looks to have captured a bug on video. Hopefully he submits it to the proper bug report place so the devs can take a look. This captured video is clearly a bug/glitch rather than someone having pulled back the curtain on a nefarious world of cheat code and double life of SDS devs such as is being claimed. The data here simply doesn't lead logically to the OP's conclusion.

Every year, people get emotional about some losses and are compelled to make these threads. Every year, it gathers others like a moth to a flame to both vigorously agree and vehemently deny. Every year it gets locked and most years people get banned in the process. Tread carefully, lol.

[kehlis]

Re: Blatant AI Cheating

The validity in this thread is that the OP looks to have captured a bug on video. Hopefully he submits it to the proper bug report place so the devs can take a look. This captured video is clearly a bug/glitch rather than someone having pulled back the curtain on a nefarious world of cheat code and double life of SDS devs such as is being claimed. The data here simply doesn't lead logically to the OP's conclusion.

Every year, people get emotional about some losses and are compelled to make these threads. Every year, it gathers others like a moth to a flame to both vigorously agree and vehemently deny. Every year it gets locked and most years people get banned in the process. Tread carefully, lol.

Yep, that is most clearly a bug and as mentioned above if there truly was some code the cpu would have just hit a HR.

The guy gave up 8 runs to get to that point, the problem in this scenario falls on the user, not the game.

[AceAmy]

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I dont believe the game cheats, but it does make it harder on players with errors at the wrong time to make it more "exciting" almost like another way to challenge players.

Cheating no, but its not as cut and dry as some "veterans" around here like to believe.

[jada855]

Re: Blatant AI Cheating

a bug?

I hope so! Waiting to see if it will be addressed in the first gameplay patch!

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: Blatant AI Cheating

I dont believe the game cheats, but it does make it harder on players with errors at the wrong time to make it more "exciting" almost like another way to challenge players.

Cheating no, but its not as cut and dry as some "veterans" around here like to believe.

You would need evidence/data to support a claim like this, though. Can't just say it is because it is so.

I haven't collected any data, either, but I don't have any sense that error frequencies are any different in different situations.

[KBLover]

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I dont believe the game cheats, but it does make it harder on players with errors at the wrong time to make it more "exciting" almost like another way to challenge players.

Cheating no, but its not as cut and dry as some "veterans" around here like to believe.

Funny because that doesn't happen much in my games.

And I have all error sliders above default.

Nor have I given up an 8-run lead. I've comeback and be comeback on by the CPU. I've blown out the CPU and been blown out by the CPU

Since I doubt I have a "different game", if the game is constantly "making it exciting", why is it that I don't experience this every time I'm behind?

Maybe it's just baseball being baseball? Players do sometimes make mistakes at inopportune times and teams do blow leads.

[Spokker]

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Haha I'm not saying there's AI cheating but some of those innings man. Here's me getting my *** handed to me despite hitting the pitching meter spots. I get a 3-0 quick count in the final at-bat and you can see me just give up and throw one right down the middle to Delmon Young with a white head.

https://youtu.be/er_cLOO2P24?t=6m1s

The highlight reel shows I was up 7-0 at one point. At least I killed their pitcher earlier in the game.

The game has to impose hard losses or it's not baseball, in my opinion.

[Speedy]

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There is an adaptive AI built into the game, right?

If the AI keeps doing the same thing throughout the game, the user will pick up on it and try to adjust, right? The opposite then would be true with an adaptive AI - if the user keeps doing the same thing, the AI will adjust.

[El_MaYiMbE]

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Sometimes I think there is a comeback or momentum logic, but the more I think about it the more I realize its the player causing these issues most of the time...

Now the error and the glitch are obviously not the players doing.
However, the fact you let them rally from down 8-0 IS the players fault most of the time.

Whether you like to admit it or not, you get into a certain pattern when pitching, and the CPU usually catches on (and sounds like they did in this case) and scored a bunch of runs on you. Similar to how you were locked in at the plate, scoring 8 runs, so were they...it happens.

The fact the bubble bursted on an E5 AND a glitch was a coincidence. The 8 runs you gave up to let them crawl back into the game....was due to bad pitching...whether you are good at pitching or not...it was bad pitching, the pattern you got into, that did you in.