MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

[tnixen]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

My quick thoughts on the gameplay stream!

These are just my opinions on what I feel needs to be changed and fixed!


1. What is up with the slow motion and pausing?

There is clearly a pause when the catcher is throwing the ball on a steal attempt. And then there is this slow motion affect when the base runner is sliding into second! I absolutely do not like seeing this at all and in my opinion makes gameplay feel more like Arcade baseball

I really hope the catcher Pausing and Slow Motion can be disabled or even better just removed from the game!

2. Hits down the lines into the corners is clearly still an issue even with all the new ball physics.

Unless the batter is REALLY SLOW like perhaps with a running speed rating of maybe 30 or less they should be able to make it into second base for a double without it being so darn close! This has been a problem for like ever and I don't understand why it is still not fixed! I watch a lot of baseball and in real life even big guys like Ryan Howard or David Ordiz usually make it into second on these kind of hits into the corners pretty easy,

3. Bunting definitely still does not look fixed!

As some others have said batters with very low bunt ratings seem to be able to put down perfect bunts way to often!

4. I see they added a "Early, Late, Perfect" message above the pitching meter.

Not really a fan of that as it makes it look more busy and I hope it can be turned off!

5. In the pause menu where it shows Kipnis 2 for 19 Today it looks like it still does not show you what kind of hits he had.

There should be fast easy way to bring up the result of every players at bat in the game!

On the good side they already removed the MLB The Show 17 logo on the Scorebug! Thank You Adam_SDS

I know MLB The Show is a work in progress and so I hope my comments help the developers make the game better then it already is.

And I can't wait to see how this game looks on PS4 Pro!!!

[Decker40]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

Animations look really good. Very impressed with the ball physics.

Noticed some of the player ratings when on a pause screen. Are these ratings the same as the default roster that is going to be shipped or will they be different? The Cubs looked a little light in the ratings...

[BigOscar]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

To be honest, I don't care about most of the stuff mentioned. Tiny details don't bother me, graphics don't affect how much I enjoy a game unless they are truly shocking, I don't play online much so bunt cheesing isn't an issue for me and I'll never play Retro Mode as I still have a megadrive somewhere, so if I wanted to play crap games from then I'd just dust that off.

But despite all that I'm very pleased with what I saw, entirely because of the ball spin. It looked great, the ball was tailing and dipping properly and you could instantly see a more varied amount of hits, which is a complete game changer for me. Contact guys have been pretty useless due to the ball not dipping, but this should fix that and make the game a much fairer balance between contact and power.

The baserunning I'll have to see for myself as they were clearly just messing around and had a slow baserunner, I don't think I saw them successfully steal a base. I like the idea of a more in depth stealing though as at the moment it's way too simplistic.

I'd like to have seen a bit more about how the computer plays like a human, as along with line drives not dipping, opposition outfielders all doing their best Jim Edmonds impression grew to be one of my biggest complaints with the current game. If that's toned down and the balls spin properly, that would be pretty much the two biggest things I was after, along with fielders showing the correct amount of urgency instead of soft tossing it while the man beats out the throw. (which they also said they'd fixed, but again hard to really show on camera)

All very positive in terms of the things I actually care about, now I just need to have my fingers crossed that they've done something interesting with Franchise Mode.

[dalger21]

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3. Bunting definitely still does not look fixed!

As some others have said batters with very low bunt ratings seem to be able to put down perfect bunts way to often!

Ramone mentioned this earlier.

• Bunting, we didn't realize until after the stream, but we had fastballs down the middle on. So yeah bunting is way easier with every fastball down the middle. Anyway it's been worked on a lot you'll see more Wednesday. And that's the beauty of streaming an unfinished game, we worked on it a lot then streamed and found something else to tune which you'll see on Wednesday.

[countryboy]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

Still haven't been able to watch the stream.

I tried pulling it up here at work but the site is blocked.

EDIT:

For those like myself who haven't been able to catch the full stream yet and can't access the site at work, it is up on Youtube. Thanks to HozandMoose for uploading to Youtube!

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/smynMhczhdo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Dolenz]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations &amp; Retro-Mode Deep Dive

To me Retro mode just sounds like a gimmick and pointless.

Everybody always thinks that modes or features they are not interested in seem pointless.

If it brings in a few more fans to the game then it is not pointless. If it allows me or anyone to have friends over who do not own the game over and lets to jump into a fun head to head game without me dominating then it is not pointless.

It also seems like some people seem to believe that a stock PS4 has unlimited graphic and computing power. It wasn't even comparable to a good gaming PC when it came out 3 years ago.

[JTommy67]

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My quick thoughts on the gameplay stream!

1. What is up with the slow motion and pausing?

There is clearly a pause when the catcher is throwing the ball on a steal attempt. And then there is this slow motion affect when the base runner is sliding into second! I absolutely do not like seeing this at all and in my opinion makes gameplay feel more like Arcade baseball

I really hope the catcher Pausing and Slow Motion can be disabled or even better just removed from the game!

A better idea would be to do it this way: When a runner tries to steal, the meter pops up on the screen immediately and you can begin preloading the throw...this is how it works now but without the meter.

There should still be enough time for this to happen without stopping the action or going into slow motion...not sure why they didn't do it this way.

If it's too difficult to time without pausing, then the forgiveness of the meter can be relaxed a bit.

I think arcade features should be avoided whenever possible, and this one is certainly avoidable.

[adh5199]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations &amp; Retro-Mode Deep Dive

Different year same OS :-) lol

• Retro mode camera is available in the regular game
• Catcher throw meter is still being tuned not finished by any means. Streaming a game that's not done knock knock.
• We are in crunch, it's not easy to pull people away from their day-to-day to do these streams
• Bunting, we didn't realize until after the stream, but we had fastballs down the middle on. So yeah bunting is way easier with every fastball down the middle. Anyway it's been worked on a lot you'll see more Wednesday. And that's the beauty of streaming an unfinished game, we worked on it a lot then streamed and found something else to tune which you'll see on Wednesday.
• Graphics, WIP same as every year look at the first stream or vlog from any year then reference it with the last one.
• Graphics............13th.............:-)

You know you guys love OS. We have unrealistic expectations sure, but it's all out of passion for the sport we all live and breathe. You guys always seem to do so much with a small team and your raise the bar every year. Thank you.


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[adh5199]

MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations &amp;amp; Retro-Mode Deep Dive

My only minor critique is that the grass and dirt color seems, just off. Grass should be a richer darker green. MLB teams spend LOTS of money on water. Dirt still lacks texture too. Just feels like brown concrete.

I also realize this is an early stream so I hope to see it all have the WOW factor during the graphics stream.

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[ShowTyme15]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations &amp; Retro-Mode Deep Dive

Definitely new catcher set-up and receiving animations. Adds a fresh look, and realism.

As far as Progressive Field, some nice improvements. Love the full LED board, the out of town scoreboard in the wall looks so much better, and the tarp down the line finally. (I think I may actually be responsible for that

Looks like they added some stuff to the upper deck in right, but still no names next to retired numbers. And I know I mentioned it before, but the flags need changed, but Adam said he passed it along so hoping for the best.

Honestly, my only disappointment is that it will look and most likely run better on the PS4 Pro. Which I won't be getting any time soon. But it's not like I didn't expect that.

Oh, and the Indians socks are still blue. Now that socks aren't part of the style guide I really hope they can change them to red. But overall its looking great. I can't wait!

The Show has never put names next to retired numbers as far as I know (pretty sure they have to pay a licensing fee for that). Go to Miller Park and Minute Maid Park and look at the retired numbers on the stadium walls...................you'll see what I'm talking about.

[Mike Lowe]

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Admittedly, I wasn't able to watch the live stream yet. I know folks said they saw issues w bunts still being too effective, but how did manual outfield play look? Do we still see line drives going through your OF?

[Blzer]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations &amp; Retro-Mode Deep Dive

Admittedly, I wasn't able to watch the live stream yet. I know folks said they saw issues w bunts still being too effective, but how did manual outfield play look? Do we still see line drives going through your OF?

I don't think they ever controlled the outfielders.

[GrandMaster B]

I am going to nitpik. The clouds are moving the opposite direction the flag is moving. Again. Still. Bummer.

[Qb]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations &amp; Retro-Mode Deep Dive

Speaking of which, the baserunner window is a perfect example of this game being WIP. They obviously (or likely) won't look the way they do right now when the game releases.

I'd like to see them remove the attribute bars under the numbers. I can't see any reason for them if the rating is displayed numerically.

[tnixen]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations &amp;amp; Retro-Mode Deep Dive

My only minor critique is that the grass and dirt color seems, just off. Grass should be a richer darker green. MLB teams spend LOTS of money on water. Dirt still lacks texture too. Just feels like brown concrete.

I also realize this is an early stream so I hope to see it all have the WOW factor during the graphics stream.

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I hope this does not make people without the PS4 Pro hate me but I really have a feeling the grass and dirt will look much better on the PS4 Pro then the standard PS4. And also "HDR" I think should really help make everything look more color accurate and photo realistic. Good news is I think the standard PS4 supports HDR too.

Just a feeling that is all