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  • sydrogerdavid
    MVP
    • May 2009
    • 3109

    #76
    Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

    I don't remember the players they used to bunt, but there can't be that many players in the league that can lay down perfect drag bunt. I do like that there were more misses, but maybe it's still too easy.

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    • Cory4AU
      Rookie
      • Sep 2016
      • 191

      #77
      Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

      Originally posted by sydrogerdavid
      I don't remember the players they used to bunt, but there can't be that many players in the league that can lay down perfect drag bunt. I do like that there were more misses, but maybe it's still too easy.
      Yeah but it did appear that they had it on beginner difficulty so hopefully that had something to do with it.

      Does anyone know where I can watch the replay? I missed the first 30 minutes or so of the stream.

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      • Stolm
        Pro
        • May 2012
        • 649

        #78
        Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

        Pretty disheartening to see the slo-mo Bullet Time creeping into the other options and modes. Seems if you use meter throwing you are stuck with it.

        I can only guess what kind of a circus RTTS will look like this year.

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        • Houston
          MVP
          • May 2003
          • 4724

          #79
          Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

          The ratings probably have not been done at all and we know there not final at this point, but maybe they should adjust the bunting attributes even more now from when they changed them from 15 to 16.


          On MLB THE SHOW 16 the basic bunting attributes was around 25/27 and the good bunters were rated with Billy Hamilton at 99/99 for bunting also Leonys Martin had 99/99 with Aoki 59/59.

          Maybe it is something the SCEA ratings personnel (Luis) can adjust to a players real life skill for bunting within the last 3 years.
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          • WaitTilNextYear
            Go Cubs Go
            • Mar 2013
            • 16830

            #80
            Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

            Originally posted by Cory4AU
            Yeah but it did appear that they had it on beginner difficulty so hopefully that had something to do with it.

            Does anyone know where I can watch the replay? I missed the first 30 minutes or so of the stream.
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            • skrody
              Rookie
              • Oct 2007
              • 219

              #81
              Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

              i wonder if there is colorblind support for the catchers throwing meter

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              • Spokker
                Pro
                • May 2014
                • 615

                #82
                Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

                Regarding the graphics, for context, PBR wasn't even fully shown last year until the last streams. Ramone teased it in March if I recall correctly.

                They mentioned they were playing on a regular PS4 and that the Pro version would be better.
                Last edited by Spokker; 02-09-2017, 09:30 PM.

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                • bigdipper88
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 191

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Lovesports
                  Yea I don't agree here either. The biggest issue honestly has been the player models and uniforms looking boxy. I know everyone cares about different aspects but for me graphics/player models have been disgraceful. Madden and NBA2K have wayyy better player models
                  You're kidding about player models in Madden and NBA 2K being better, right? Madden's are not that good and 2k's had skinny armed alien arm looking bodies.

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                  • SchwarBear12
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 83

                    #84
                    Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

                    Originally posted by countryboy
                    Because we are ok with the graphics.

                    Graphics only carry a game so far for me. Gameplay and franchise mode are what I'm most interested in. And every year the Show improves, imo, in those two areas.




                    Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

                    I wanted to quote this post because it so nails my long-term opinion of all of this.

                    I just don't understand what people are waiting for. Some kind of massive overhaul of the whole thing? A new game? 2k back? EA back? Even if EA revived MVP, me thinks they'd rip 70% of the entire platform off from The Show, just to barely compete with them.

                    I'm beyond graphics at this point. Fine TUNING the graphics is what's important to me. Sharpness, clarity, 60 FPS... that's important.

                    Expanded uniform slots, getting uniforms right, classic stadiums...


                    The little things

                    All of those things before a massive graphical overhaul. I'd rather get 19/20 things right, than 7/20 things right, because we had to throw our best feature out the window, to re-invent the wheel.

                    Why?

                    Just 'cause. No other reason.



                    That doesn't make ANY sense to me.

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                    • redsfan4life
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 2763

                      #85
                      Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

                      The bunting made it seem like the new physics engine isn't even tied to bunting. Which would be really disappointing.
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                      • SchwarBear12
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2017
                        • 83

                        #86
                        Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

                        Originally posted by Stolm
                        Pretty disheartening to see the slo-mo Bullet Time creeping into the other options and modes. Seems if you use meter throwing you are stuck with it.

                        I can only guess what kind of a circus RTTS will look like this year.

                        Obviously they are introducing more and more arcade elements into the game. I'd be curious what analytics they're looking at because someone over there in marketing thinks it's bringing more casual buyers.

                        What worries me is the long-term effects. 3 years from now will we be looking at DD + Arcade gameplay as the primary gaming mode?

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                        • ryanmc564
                          Pro
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 765

                          #87
                          Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

                          Originally posted by SchwarBear12
                          I wanted to quote this post because it so nails my long-term opinion of all of this.

                          I just don't understand what people are waiting for. Some kind of massive overhaul of the whole thing? A new game? 2k back? EA back? Even if EA revived MVP, me thinks they'd rip 70% of the entire platform off from The Show, just to barely compete with them.

                          I'm beyond graphics at this point. Fine TUNING the graphics is what's important to me. Sharpness, clarity, 60 FPS... that's important.

                          Expanded uniform slots, getting uniforms right, classic stadiums...


                          The little things

                          All of those things before a massive graphical overhaul. I'd rather get 19/20 things right, than 7/20 things right, because we had to throw our best feature out the window, to re-invent the wheel.

                          Why?

                          Just 'cause. No other reason.



                          That doesn't make ANY sense to me.

                          70%?? Just making a baseball game would be 70% of the shows platform.

                          I get what you saying, but to some they are happy with the game play as is and what to see a graphical jump. I don't see the harm in that, it goes both ways. In a perfect world we would have both (gameplay and graphics).

                          I'm right down the middle on this, both can have the same initial effect ( making the game look like real life baseball). One the gameplay and animations can greatly improve the look, if the players are making catches and throws, dives, hits, runs, etc etc, that you see in real life, it will look and feel more real (already the animations alone for years have fooled some into thinking they are watching a real game, and thats really cool).

                          Now of course a graphics boost would definitely make it look more real but not feel more real if they didn't have good animations and gameplay. However, from a pure visual stand point of a side to side picture of the show and real life, theres still a significant seperation there. Just getting that seperation closer can greatly improve the overall look and appeal of the game.

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                          • Artman22
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 4982

                            #88
                            Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

                            Originally posted by countryboy
                            Because we are ok with the graphics.

                            Graphics only carry a game so far for me. Gameplay and franchise mode are what I'm most interested in. And every year the Show improves, imo, in those two areas.




                            Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports


                            In all fairness, on the PS3 this franchise was easily the best looking sports game, but on the PS4 it's a completely different story. I for one have been hoping they would eventually improve the graphics being that its been on the PS4 for 3 years now and being a console exclusive. I hope the pro version does bring something better to the table as far as graphics. The first thing I noticed when I saw the first video is how the graphics don't look improved at all. I know gameplay is the most important but graphics is also important.


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                            • andrewochs615
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 318

                              #89
                              Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

                              Originally posted by Spokker
                              Regarding the graphics, for context, PBR wasn't even fully shown last year until the last streams. Ramone teased it in March if I recall correctly.

                              They mentioned they were playing on a regular PS4 and that the Pro version would be better.
                              Which is what the said when jumping from PS3 to PS4 and even then it still seemed there wasn't that much of a jump.

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                              • Lovesports
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 469

                                #90
                                Personally when I'm referring to "graphics" I'm talking about player models specifically. THAT can certainly improve no matter what anyone here says. The Show has literally 3 body types and everyone has the same baggy jersey.

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