More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

[Nolove626]

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If the Dodgers win a 100 games this season, I'll eat my socks.


Has it been announced anywhere how many different quirks there are?
I wonder if some of them are going to be assigned according to maybe a combination of attribute ratings. Like something with basestealers, someone who has a 90+ speed, 90+ steal ability and maybe a 90+ aggression.

Haha if they win 100 games I will eat you socks! All I'm saying is that they have a vastly better roster than the 2001 mariners. Anything can happen.

[Nolove626]

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I definitely would not say anywhere near the talent level of the Dodgers, and the fact could be argued that the Mariners had a better team. You're talking about a Mariners team that featured a prime Ichiro who hit .350 and then guys like Edgar Martinez, Bret Boone, Mike Cameron, John Olerud, and Dan Wilson. If you even compare stats between the 2016 Dodgers and the Mariners, the Mariners offense was better in several areas and the bullpen was much better. The one area the Dodgers win in is starting pitching.

But purely based on team stats, think about this. The 01 Mariners scored 927 Runs and allowed 627. The highest scoring team in 2016 was the Red Sox with 878. For your reference, the Dodgers scored 725. Since Run Differential is what actually wins games, the Dodgers allowed 638. This means the Mariners of 2001 were +300, the Dodgers were +87. I mean, I guess a guy like Seager is going to improve, which will help, but to sit there and say flat out that the Dodgers of 2017 will be hands down better than the 2001 Mariners that won 116.. not sure about that. They definitely weren't supposed to be that good, but they were. Until the playoffs of course, which is typical in Seattle fashion.

Good Points! I just look at that mariners Roster, Bullpen, and rotation and don't see anything that jumps out at me as a special player other than Ichiro and Edgar Martinez. Lets face it. Brett Boone had one superstar year and as we all know he was juicing big time. Baseball was in a different place at that time. One could even argue the game was played different. Do I think the 2001 Mariners were as good as their stats indicate? No. Just like I think the Moneyball A's were not as good as their record indicated with that 20 plus game win streak. A lot that goes into baseball is luck. I think the 2001 Mariners had a shoot ton of luck go their way that season.

As indicated by their 22 win drop off the following two years, finally bottoming out at 64 wins I think in 04'. Were the 2001 Mariners a good team? Yes. Were they the great team there 115 wins indicates? No they were not. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Thanks. Did anybody submit a bug report or do you think that was done by design?

A more realistic way to do stamina would be to base it on pitch count or innings pitched over a period of time. IRL teams sometimes "stretch out" a reliever to convert him into a starter. The opportunity to do that doesn't currently exist in the show.

Design. People complained (with good reason) about all the pitchers throwing 99 mph and having 99 stamina deeper into a franchise mode.

The "opportunity" does exist to interconvert RPs and SPs, it's just that you have to manually edit them to your liking. The game hasn't provided that development option in the past.

I believe from one of the interviews with Russell promoting the game last year that this was a design decision. I remember him saying something along the lines of a players running speed or a pitchers throwing speed wont increase over their career, only decrease.

Or i could be imagining all of this.

Nope, not imagining. It was a design decision for that very reason.

[tessl]

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I believe from one of the interviews with Russell promoting the game last year that this was a design decision. I remember him saying something along the lines of a players running speed or a pitchers throwing speed wont increase over their career, only decrease.

Or i could be imagining all of this.

That is generally true but a pitcher stamina can and does change. See Adam Wainwright who went from closer to starter.

Thanks for the reply.

[Caulfield]

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When people refer to create a stadium, is the expectation of a list of maybe 3 or 4 pre-made stadiums to choose from or a ground up type build?

at this point I'd settle for something as simple as 3 choices of stadia, where the only thing you really have any creation of are outfield angles and distance of homeplate to said fences.
maybe even get to pick from either a dirt infield or an astroturf one.
We would probably have to give up on getting to create foulball area sizes but I'd gladly accept that limitation.

the basic 3 (for my hopes) would be
1) Dome
2) open air stadium with no outfield stands and seating, you just pick from a choice of backdrop views like mountains or big city or ocean, among a few more.
3) a 'cookie cutter' multi-purpose for stadia like Atlanta's old Fulton County, Riverfront and Three Rivers. You could still use this type stadium to set fence angles and distances to get a stadium that has the feel of old Tiger Stadium Comiskey the Baker Bowl Ebbets.

also need to be able to decide outfield fence heights. over time sony could add other stuff if they had resources.

this would go a long way to help franchises used in historic rosters

I hope player quirks get a lot of attention and mention today

[Finn]

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at this point I'd settle for something as simple as 3 choices of stadia, where the only thing you really have any creation of are outfield angles and distance of homeplate to said fences.
maybe even get to pick from either a dirt infield or an astroturf one.
We would probably have to give up on getting to create foulball area sizes but I'd gladly accept that limitation.

the basic 3 (for my hopes) would be
1) Dome
2) open air stadium with no outfield stands and seating, you just pick from a choice of backdrop views like mountains or big city or ocean, among a few more.
3) a 'cookie cutter' multi-purpose for stadia like Atlanta's old Fulton County, Riverfront and Three Rivers. You could still use this type stadium to set fence angles and distances to get a stadium that has the feel of old Tiger Stadium Comiskey the Baker Bowl Ebbets.

also need to be able to decide outfield fence heights. over time sony could add other stuff if they had resources.

this would go a long way to help franchises used in historic rosters

I hope player quirks get a lot of attention and mention today

Thanks. I was interested if the hope was the ability to build a whole stadium down to every minutiae (or as possible with the resources available) or if it was more a story telling piece where on top of building your roster / staff to tell your story you could include a new home into the 'plot' where the architectural details weren't as important as the fact you as owner built it for your fan base.

[Caulfield]

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I'd actually just tweak this a bit and say 2 open air stadium options and 2 retractable roof stadiums (since no one actually builds domes anymore). This combined with a few expansion cities (Las Vegas, Portland, somewhere in North Carolina, Montreal with the option to move back into Olympic Stadium, and maybe one more). The rest would already essentially be in the game in terms of jersey creation (from DD).

I think if they wanted to do it gradually, a realistic option would be to create 2 stadiums and start with being able to move into a new stadium (Oakland and Tampa could move) in a game. Then, in the next years game, add 2 more stadiums and the ability for expansion using the 2 new parks and the current DD jersey and team creation system.

If they do it, it would be nice to be able to play as a team like the Mariners, but still be able to set the home ballpark of both the A's and the Rays (give them a new ballpark without having to play as them).

I mention domes because I'd like to relive some 80's moments in places like the kingdome astrodome and olympic stadium
I sure wish MLB would recognise the value in letting the Show impart a baseball histoy lesson and relocate franchises to places like brooklyn and montreal. then that could be a stepping stone to something greater IMO

[Caulfield]

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AL West: Sea, LAA, Oak, Portland
AL North: Min, Det, Cle, ChW
AL South: Tex, Hou, KC, TB
AL East: Bos, NYY, Tor, Bal
NL West: SF, LAD, Ari, SD
NL North: Col, ChC, Mil, Cin
NL South: StL, Atl, Charlotte, Mia
NL East: Was, Phi, NYM, Pit

this is really good, but we gotta have the Cards and Cubs in the same division lol

[CaseIH]

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Hmm . . . cautiously optimistic about quirks. I've been hoping for quite a while for a way to really differentiate players and this could be a good step in the right direction. I have faith (based on experience) that this won't be too gimmicky or overpowered, but I'll remain a bit cautious until we can really test it out.

Thats my feeling as well. Typcially the MLBTS devs dont go overboard on this stuff to where it gets arcade like, like with some games, so Im curious to see how this plays out.

Getting older among other things, which cause me to struggle playing the Show at times, has me interested in this quick manage option and being able to switch back and forth is intriguing to me. I had considered just giving up on the console, and going with text sim OOTP baseball, and while OOTP has its advantages to MLB, with having all the leagues available, I do miss the atmosphere of seeing the players, and playing the game even though I struggle to hit, and have ot use auto fielding now days, as well as baserunning, plus the cut scenes I actually miss them too, which you dont get with OOTP, so not ready to give up on playing just yet.