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  • WaitTilNextYear
    Go Cubs Go
    • Mar 2013
    • 16830

    #91
    Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

    Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
    Market research + user research + resources + telemetry + development priorities + ? = X

    We couldn't be more exited, happy, and proud about the tremendous effort, feature set and all the long hours we've put into MLB The Show 17. We will continue to do what we've always done. And that formula had worked out for us very nicely over 10 years in.
    Ahhhhh...2 variables and one equation. My simple algebra does not work here.

    Originally posted by tessl
    Do missions in franchise sound to you like they add reality or do they sound like an arcade element?
    No, because there's nothing mandatory about doing missions. I also don't think completing them results in artificial gameplay boosts--my understanding is completing missions just gets you items and packs.
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    • dran1984
      MVP
      • Mar 2011
      • 1221

      #92
      Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

      Originally posted by Impetuous65
      At what point will you realize this is a "video game"?
      Seriously? So let's just throw realism out the window and turn it into an arcade game since it's a video game. The whole point of a "true sim" experience is to make its authentic as possible. Using your "logic" why should they waste time on accurately designing uniforms and stadiums to be realistic? Why should they work on trying to program realistic gameplay and stats? Why implement MLB Nework to give the game a realistic broadcast package?

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      • AncientDiety
        Rookie
        • Feb 2016
        • 84

        #93
        Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

        Not gonna lie, very underwhelming, quirks are nice though, but Franchise needs an overhaul or something, it never feels like you are a part of a league, and stat overlays were done better in games 8 years ago, where is the in game stats, box scores, league news? The Show is fantastic, but franchise is really getting stale. hope Thursday brings some news.

        If Thursday doesn't shed any new light I am going to be very disappointed.

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        • ninertravel
          MVP
          • Aug 2015
          • 4830

          #94
          Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

          I really got no interest in the situational thing, it's just like quick counts, if I am gonna play a baseball game I want to play the game from start to finish, but can understand those that want to have that.

          Looks like no word on importing a player into franchise roster again, ohh well lots more work and videos of doing that for another year

          excited for the stream in 2 days though I love that manage mode in simulation !
          Last edited by ninertravel; 03-07-2017, 08:35 PM.

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          • thaSLAB
            [Player 1]
            • Feb 2008
            • 4495

            #95
            Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

            Originally posted by tessl
            Do missions in franchise sound to you like they add reality or do they sound like an arcade element?
            They have zero effect on gameplay. They are simply bonuses/rewards for playing the game.

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            • ShowTyme15
              LADetermined
              • Jan 2004
              • 11853

              #96
              Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

              Tad bit off topic, but the game went gold today in case anyone was wondering. We will probably see early copies within the next few weeks.
              Last edited by ShowTyme15; 03-08-2017, 01:16 AM.

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              • bcruise
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2004
                • 23274

                #97
                Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                You know, everything else good about quick manage aside, I'm glad that it even exists this year instead of Sportscast manager. That feature was the main cause of an awful bug that wrecked morale not just for the current franchise you were using, but any other one as well until you closed the game and restarted (this is the "all starting pitchers team roles get flagged as Bullpen" bug). The cause was using Sportscast Manager to sim a game. It still exists in '16 to this current version.

                Since they ripped Sportscast out of the game and replaced it with Quick Manage, it's pretty likely that they nailed this one. At least I hope they did, because with how much they're promoting the fast sim modes, there's going to be a lot of people using Sportscast's successor.

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                • Unlucky 13
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1707

                  #98
                  Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                  Well, I'm really hoping that they're just holding back all of the real info for Thursday, and we'll see the improvements to franchise mode then. What we've gotten so far aren't anything of the sort I'm looking for.

                  Does anyone know if we'll be getting a bullet-point list of features like in years past? I can't watch videos.
                  Anyone who claims to be a fan of two teams in the same pro sport is actually a fan of none.

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                  • Jolly Roger
                    Prince of Plakata
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 871

                    #99
                    Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                    Man, I dunno...these player quirks scare me a little. I really hope they can be given and, perhaps more importantly, taken away by us.

                    Performs better when team is behind; performs better in 9th inning or later; good at driving in runner on 3rd with less than 2 outs...these are all versions of that folksy intangible people call "clutch," the existence of which is debatable.

                    http://www.fangraphs.com/library/misc/clutch/

                    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/why-w...-about-clutch/

                    To me, a quirk is more something like "pitcher throws to first more often/doesn't throw to first very often," "first strike swinger," etc.


                    in addition to changing the way you go about at-bats, we think they’ll also change the way you construct your roster.
                    Goodness, I hope not.

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                    • TheBleedingRed21
                      Game Dev
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 5071

                      #100
                      Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                      Come on man. I grow tired of seeing they "changed the way you play, the way you approach an at-bat", no they did not.

                      They simply ADDED more ways to play that might appease those who don't wanna play the same way you do. There was nothing changed unless YOU choose to play that way.
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                      • Armor and Sword
                        The Lama
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 21779

                        #101
                        Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                        In regard to player quirks....you the player still have to execute!! So if you get fooled on a 2-2 sinker in the dirt.....you get fooled.

                        If Rizzo is a great 2 strike hitter and hit’s the curve great too.....well you still have to time your swing properly....and what if you get a 0-2 country fastball instead and you were intent on looking for that hanging curve?

                        Again, I think the ratings boosts will be cool and add a huge layer of personality to the game and the players! But we the users still have to execute.

                        I think sim stats will be fine too. I am not too concerned at all.
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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52689

                          #102
                          Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                          Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                          In regard to player quirks....you the player still have to execute!! So if you get fooled on a 2-2 sinker in the dirt.....you get fooled.

                          If Rizzo is a great 2 strike hitter and hit’s the curve great too.....well you still have to time your swing properly....and what if you get a 0-2 country fastball instead and you were intent on looking for that hanging curve?

                          Again, I think the ratings boosts will be cool and add a huge layer of personality to the game and the players! But we the users still have to execute.

                          I think sim stats will be fine too. I am not too concerned at all.
                          Yeah I'm not concerned with the quirks effecting sim stats.

                          I am really anxious for the stream/deep dive tomorrow to see what all the different quirks are. I'm hoping some are directed at players being mentors or leaders in the clubhouse. In addition to that, I'm hoping there is some sort of team chemistry aspect in the game this year.
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                          • BigOscar
                            MVP
                            • May 2016
                            • 2971

                            #103
                            Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                            Originally posted by countryboy
                            Yeah I'm not concerned with the quirks effecting sim stats.

                            I am really anxious for the stream/deep dive tomorrow to see what all the different quirks are. I'm hoping some are directed at players being mentors or leaders in the clubhouse. In addition to that, I'm hoping there is some sort of team chemistry aspect in the game this year.
                            It doesn't look like they've added chemistry, if you pause the other video (http://www.operationsports.com/forum...hise-mode.html) at about 1.24 you can see the new morale screen and it's just the same categories as before, no new ones for clubhouse chemistry or the like. Hopefully they have at least made the morale system work better, but they don't look to have changed the overall system as such other than just adding a new screen so you can see all your players morale at the same time. (and most annoyingly, contract is still one of the factors, so you can still have players unhappy at being paid what they agreed to be paid, with no ability on your part to change that)

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                            • Impetuous65
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2015
                              • 1451

                              #104
                              Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                              Originally posted by dran1984
                              Seriously? So let's just throw realism out the window and turn it into an arcade game since it's a video game. The whole point of a "true sim" experience is to make its authentic as possible. Using your "logic" why should they waste time on accurately designing uniforms and stadiums to be realistic? Why should they work on trying to program realistic gameplay and stats? Why implement MLB Nework to give the game a realistic broadcast package?
                              What are you talking about? you addressed a specific item "Quirks showing up OSD at the batter walk up" I specifically stated that the OSD on batter walk up is just that an information screen. Having quirks pop up dynamically for specific situation isn't going to kill immersion at all.

                              Since when did having a pertinent scouting info leak over into being arcade, hell how did this turn into gameplay when all I talked about was an On Screen Display?

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                              • countryboy
                                Growing pains
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 52689

                                #105
                                Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                                Originally posted by BigOscar
                                It doesn't look like they've added chemistry, if you pause the other video (http://www.operationsports.com/forum...hise-mode.html) at about 1.24 you can see the new morale screen and it's just the same categories as before, no new ones for clubhouse chemistry or the like. Hopefully they have at least made the morale system work better, but they don't look to have changed the overall system as such other than just adding a new screen so you can see all your players morale at the same time. (and most annoyingly, contract is still one of the factors, so you can still have players unhappy at being paid what they agreed to be paid, with no ability on your part to change that)
                                Yeah I saw that.

                                Still holding out hope, however slim the chance may be.
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