MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[GamecocksLaw17]

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As the Padres, do I have any bullpen pieces to pair with someone like a Spangenburg or someone to get a Chad Kuhl, Mitch Keller, and maybe one other lower level prospect (Diaz, Frazier)

Not to get Keller no. But Carter Capps could be a really good piece for you to trade out of the bullpen. Spangenburg isn't anything more than a super utility type.

You caught me before I could delete it. I was trying to justify why I was low on Rogers, not the way to approach that debate.

You're good. I was just trying to explain why I was as high on Rodgers as I am. He hasn't hurt his stock since his draft and he was seen as a better prospect than Dansby Swanson and Alex Bregman in that draft. Those are a couple of high end guys.

I think Britton is really good. He may would be worth a ton on the trade market but I don't think the Chapman trade can be used as a comparison. I do think your suggestion of splitting the difference between the two Miller trades is the most reasonable option.

[MOJOMORRO]

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Not to get Keller no. But Carter Capps could be a really good piece for you to trade out of the bullpen. Spangenburg isn't anything more than a super utility type.

For Capps, if I can find a team in desperate deal of bullpen help (Pirates, Cards, Jays, Royals), what should I be looking for? A high-Mid B prospect?

Also Wade Davis is 0-6 with an ERA over 6 at the Break, so is Maurer (Second in NL with 28 Saves) someone who the Cubs might be overpaying for?

[hampshirestags]

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In my mindset, I'm looking at the smart thing for Baltimore. The have virtually no prospects to speak of and after 2018 a god majority of the core will hit free agency. I feel they can trade Britton and maybe Jones and stay competitive as they reload. They sign Manny to an extension and build around him.

Or... move Jones to right and have either Rickard or whoever (I like Marisnick from HOU) play CF. Dump Smith, Bourn, Gentry etc. let Tillman walk (he's replaceable with cheaper) along with Britton. With Jimenez off the books, there is plenty of money to offer Manny an extension. Which he will turn down to look at the FA market (otherwise he leaves too much money on the table). If we're lucky, he signs. If not, he goes to Miami under new ownership and we sign the next best thing 2 steps down. DD is not going to sign an ace, he wants QS's to turn over to the bullpen. So...you're back to where we are now except without Manny but a few more pieces to make up his WAR.

There are several ways to skin that cat. Even with the MASN money, Mr. Angelos isn't going to go crazy and the remaining pieces are just good enough to stay competitive.

[dran1984]

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Or... move Jones to right and have either Rickard or whoever (I like Marisnick from HOU) play CF. Dump Smith, Bourn, Gentry etc. let Tillman walk (he's replaceable with cheaper) along with Britton. With Jimenez off the books, there is plenty of money to offer Manny an extension. Which he will turn down to look at the FA market (otherwise he leaves too much money on the table). If we're lucky, he signs. If not, he goes to Miami under new ownership and we sign the next best thing 2 steps down. DD is not going to sign an ace, he wants QS's to turn over to the bullpen. So...you're back to where we are now except without Manny but a few more pieces to make up his WAR.


There are several ways to skin that cat. Even with the MASN money, Mr. Angelos isn't going to go crazy and the remaining pieces are just good enough to stay competitive.

In my world Angelos has sold the team and DD is long gone. The way they have decimated the farm is going to affect the franchise for a while. That's why I'm going for an infusion of prospects and dump some salary. I also want to get the lineup away from being so one dimensional. I do want all the moves to be rational and realistic from a baseball perspective, not what would DD or Angelos do.

[dran1984]

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So back on Britton. I really want to sell high and get a reasonable deal for him. If I look at the Cubs or the Nats what would be a starting point?

Would Happ from the Cubs be in play?

The Nats fit as needing a closer. If the Cubs want to lock down the pen they can move Wade Davis to set up and have Britton close. Any other ideas for a fit?

[GamecocksLaw17]

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So back on Britton. I really want to sell high and get a reasonable deal for him. If I look at the Cubs or the Nats what would be a starting point?

Would Happ from the Cubs be in play?

The Nats fit as needing a closer. If the Cubs want to lock down the pen they can move Wade Davis to set up and have Britton close. Any other ideas for a fit?

Cubs probably don't want to double down. Wade Davis is already an elite closer. I think they'd rather get a long term answer in the rotation out of Happ than another closer. The Nats aren't a great fit. They could use him but probably not make you happy prospect wise. You couldn't get Robles and the drop off from him to their next best prospect is pretty big

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[MOJOMORRO]

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So here are the trades I have lined up for right now, let me know what you guys think.

SD Receives: SP Chad Kuhl, OF/INF Adam Fraizer
PIT Receives: RP Carter Capps

(I'm considering throwing Solarte in there and maybe getting another prospect, who started at the ASG and is hitting a solid .309 with 13 HR's, but I think I could ship him somewhere else, AL East most likely, for a solid prospect)

SD Receives: C Alex Jackson
ATL Receives: OF/1B Alex Dickerson

(I think that this deal would make some sense, as Dickerson is a solid utility player who is only 26 and is not having a great year so they might be able to retain him for cheap and rotate him with Kemp in left, and Jackson is a prospect outside the top 20 in ATL prospects)

So what could Solarte fetch me, and maybe I could package him with Butcher to get a really solid prospect?

Also is Jankowski going to be able to fetch something big if I pair him with those guys. I'm not opposed to letting him go but it's gotta be for a good prospect

[Hinkleyyy]

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So I’m currently doing a Reds franchise and I’m approaching the Trade Deadline and my record is 30-61. I’m looking to move some of the following players and was wondering what y’all think I can realistically get. I'm looking for some bullpen help as I've had nobody helping so far this season. Also need some contact bats as I'm getting the power from Votto but nobody around him.

1B Joey Votto- An All-Star this season and the corner stone of my franchise at the moment. Would really need to get a good deal to ship him off after AVG of .295, 19 HR's and 49 RBI's.
-Projection: Blue Jays(DH, 1B struggle), Angels (DH Pujols, Votto 1B), Rangers (Struggling 1b) & Nationals (Zimmerman decline, A Win Now mentality)

CP Rasiel Iglesias- An All-Star this season with an 2.38 ERA and 21 Saves. Though I would really want a good deal to let him go.
-Projection: Diamondbacks (PO Push, Rodney struggle) & Angels (PO Push, Bullpen)

RP Drew Storen- Struggling this season going 0-7 but posting a 3.95 ERA. Though with a change in teams may be able to get back on track.
-Projection: Diamondbacks (Bullpen help), Royals (Bullpen help)

2B Scooter Gennett- The 25 year old who is going to be stuck behind Jose Peraza in the roster spots. Scooter has an AVG of .314 with 8 HR’s and 29 RBI’s.
-Projection: Tigers (For the future) & Athletics (Moneyball type player)

SS Zach Cozart- Looking to offload Cozart for something at least as he is in his last year. Also he’s had a decent season with an AVG of .237, 10 HR’s and 33 RBI’s.
-Projection iamondbacks (No production from SS) & Marlins (Hechy Stuggle)

LF Adam Duvall- After a slow start he’s been hot posting an AVG of .252 with 11 HR’s and 36 RBI’s.
-Projection: National (Werth Stuggles), Indians (RF Struggle, PO Push) &Blue Jays (Need OF Fielding and LF stuggle)

SP Homer Bailey- Understandably won’t get much for him because of the Reds owning him 21 Million yearly for the next 3 seasons. Though still looking to offload his contract to a team but he’s recent return from injury will hinder his value.
-Projection: Marlins (PO Push), Rangers (PO Push, Darvish hurt) , Mariners (PO Push) & Royals (PO Push)

National League

NLC- Cubs by 13
NLW- Dodgers 6.5
NLE- Nationals 9.5
NL Wild Card: Giants & Cardinals, both pushing
Marlins 3.0 GB, pushing, Need SP
D-Backs 3.5 GB, pushing, Rodney struggle
Phillies 5.0 GB
Pirates 6.5 GB, pushing
Mets 7.0 GB, pushing, Neil Walker hurt

American League
AME- Red Sox by 3.0
AMC- Indians by 4.5
AMW- Astros by 4.0
AM Wild Card Blue Jays(3.0 in AME) & Mariners(4.0 in AMW), both pushing
Angels 3.0 GB, pushing, Trout needs help in lineup
Rangers 4.0 GB, pushing, Kinsler declining
Royals 5.0 GB, 4.5 GB in ALC, pushing, Pitching needed
Rays 10.0 GB
Yankees 11.0 GB

[HolyStroke3]

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Sorry to bombard the thread just want to post some All-Star break updates relevant to discussions from earlier

Baltimore is currently 54-34, +5 in the division. Their current rotation of Gausman, Tillman, Miley, Nuno, and Jimenez has a combined ERA of 3.90. Dylan Bundy is returning after the break from a shoulder tear, however before the injury he was 1-5 with a 5.33 ERA.

David Robertson has converted 19 of 20 save opportunities, allowing 7 runs and striking out 27 hitters in 25 IP. Arizona and Washington are the top suitors

Charlie Blackmon is hitting .306/.345/.512 with 15 HR and 42 RBI for the 42-49 Rockies (9 GB in the division, 6 back of the 2nd Wild Card)

The Mets are 50-38, 1/2 game behind Washington in the East. d'Arnaud is their starting catcher, hitting .263/.333/.338 2 HR 11 RBI in 133 AB. Devin Mesoraco is hitting .220/.310/.413 11 HR 38 RBI for the last place Reds. He currently has a .9 WAR compared to d'artaud's .3

Chris Archer is 8-6 with a 3.61 ERA 1.33 WHIP 114 K in 114.2 IP for the 43-47 4th place Rays. If the Dodgers (51-40 +3) can put together a good enough package of prospects, Archer would likely replace Scott Kazmir (2-4 4.08 ERA 55 K 81.2 IP) in their rotation, breaking up a lefty heavy rotation

The Brewers are exceeding expectations, currently in 2nd in the Central at 48-43, likely taking Ryan Braun out of the trade market. Other left field options for SF (44-46, -6.5 in the West -3.5 WC) are Melky Cabrera (.307/.356/.486 10 HR 44 RBI), Howie Kendrick (.263/.357/.413 10 HR 41 RBI) or Carlos Gomez (.257/.318/.439 11 HR 38 RBI). If Pittsburgh (45-44, -7.5/2) starts the second half slow, McCutchen would be available, although the Giants might not have the prospects to acquire him

Garrett Richards, the AL starter in the All-Star Game, is 8-2 with a 1.69 ERA 95 K in 117.1 IP for the last place Angels. The Cardinals (46-42, -6/.5) have serious interest in acquiring an ace. Current #1 starter Carlos Martinez is 5-11 4.15 ERA 1.42 WHIP 92 K 91 IP

Major injuries around the league include Gary Sanchez (fractured hand, 1-2 months), Jose Abreu (torn groin, 3-4 weeks), Salvador Perez (fractured shin, 1-2 months), Danny Duffy (broken arm, 2-3 weeks), Jaime Garcia (torn pectoral, 1-2 months), Matt Carpenter (fractured foot, 1-2 months), Seung Hwan Oh (fractured hand, 3-4 weeks), Fernando Rodney (head fracture, 6+ months), Franklin Gutierrez (dislocated ankle, 6+ months)

[SquidBoy69]

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Was wondering if Adam Frazier to the dodgers would be an ok trade just having a lot of injures and he's abit of a utility man what would it cost me


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[brandonholmes]

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Cubs probably don't want to double down. Wade Davis is already an elite closer. I think they'd rather get a long term answer in the rotation out of Happ than another closer. The Nats aren't a great fit. They could use him but probably not make you happy prospect wise. You couldn't get Robles and the drop off from him to their next best prospect is pretty big

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Since we're talking about closers, what do you think the best comparable deal would be for Roberto Osuna (assuming he's throwing like 2015-16 Osuna and not 2017 full Jays meltdown Osuna?) I was thinking something like a bit of a dumbed down Ken Giles trade, with a mid top-100 prospect as the headline and some other interesting guys as filler. Something like:

WSH:

Osuna

TOR:

Erick Fedde
*organizational top 10-15 guy*
*interesting potential guy (HS pitcher or something)

Don't know if that's really a fair barometer for Osuna, but he gives the Nats an actual battle tested closer with a ton of team control left (4 years I believe) that compares well to Giles at the time of his trade to Houston. I wouldn't sell him but if the Jays are rebuilding elite relievers really aren't needed.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Since we're talking about closers, what do you think the best comparable deal would be for Roberto Osuna (assuming he's throwing like 2015-16 Osuna and not 2017 full Jays meltdown Osuna?) I was thinking something like a bit of a dumbed down Ken Giles trade, with a mid top-100 prospect as the headline and some other interesting guys as filler. Something like:

WSH:

Osuna

TOR:

Erick Fedde
*organizational top 10-15 guy*
*interesting potential guy (HS pitcher or something)

Don't know if that's really a fair barometer for Osuna, but he gives the Nats an actual battle tested closer with a ton of team control left (4 years I believe) that compares well to Giles at the time of his trade to Houston. I wouldn't sell him but if the Jays are rebuilding elite relievers really aren't needed.

I think Osuna could get a return similar to the Giles trade. Fedde could definitely headline it in my opinion

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[hampshirestags]

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I think Osuna could get a return similar to the Giles trade. Fedde could definitely headline it in my opinion

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Giles had 5 full years on control when he was traded. Assuming Osuna gets traded at the deadline, he'll have 3.5 years. Plus, Giles>Osuna means it would be at least a full step down. Feede still headlines but the ancillary pieces take the hit.

Feede+Voth or Cole+L.Garcia (if he made the roster, he turns 17 this month) feels about right. If Garcia isn't there, he can be made up with 2 other low end C prospects.

He's got to be sub 1 WHIP and closing the door though. Otherwise, he's just another young guy looking for his release point in a trade market that's bound to have other guys doing the job.

[brandonholmes]

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Giles had 5 full years on control when he was traded. Assuming Osuna gets traded at the deadline, he'll have 3.5 years. Plus, Giles>Osuna means it would be at least a full step down. Feede still headlines but the ancillary pieces take the hit.

Feede+Voth or Cole+L.Garcia (if he made the roster, he turns 17 this month) feels about right. If Garcia isn't there, he can be made up with 2 other low end C prospects.

He's got to be sub 1 WHIP and closing the door though. Otherwise, he's just another young guy looking for his release point in a trade market that's bound to have other guys doing the job.

He's been the guy he's been in whole career in my franchise thus far, so sun 1 WHIP. Nats are contending but the bullpen is atrocious. Don't care so much about ancillary pieces, just looking for top prospects that are somewhat close to the majors (I don't want a 5 year rebuild) for JD and Osuna, my best chips.

Thanks guys!

[BlueJays09]

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What's the price of Tellis from the Marlins if I am the Jays? He's currently in AAA and 4th catcher on the depth chart.

Thanks.


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