MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Just 1 day away from the deadline. Still need a left fielder. My untouchables are Vlad, SRF, Bichette and Alford. I know that is pretty much all of my top prospects but I just can't get rid of them (that's the problem with playing with your favourite team, you get too connected with your prospects i find). Here is the standings and guys that I like.

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STANDINGS-

AL East-
TOR 63-39 -
BOS 57-46 6.5 GB
TB 52-51 11.5 GB
BAL 51-50 11.5 GB
NYY 49-52 13.5 GB

AL Central-
DET 55-46 -
CLE 54-47 1.0 GB
MIN 49-52 6.0 GB
CWS 44-56 10.5 GB
KC 42-59 13.0 GB

AL West-
SEA 58-45 -
HOU 57-45 0.5 GB
LAA 57-46 1.0 GB
TEX 50-51 7.0 GB
OAK 40-63 18.0 GB

AL WC-
HOU -
LAA -
BOS -
CLE 2.0 GB
TB 5.0 GB
BAL 5.0 GB
TEX 6.0 GB

NL East-
WAS 57-44 -
NYM 56-46 1.5 GB
PHI 50-50 6.5 GB
MIA 50-51 7.0 GB
ATL 48-53 9.0 GB

NL Central-
CHC 76-25 (!) -
PIT 46-56 30.5 GB
STL 42-60 34.5 GB
MIL 41-63 36.5 GB
CIN 37-65 39.5 GB

NL West-
LAD 64-39 -
ARI 52-50 11.5 GB
SF 52-51 12.0 GB
COL 48-55 16.0 GB
SD 31-72 33.0 GB

NL WC-
NYM -
ARI -
SF 0.5 GB
PHI 1.0 GB
MIA 1.5 GB
ATL 3.5 GB
COL 4.5 GB
PIT 6.0 GB

Melky Cabrera- .280/.339/.413 10 HR 43 RBI 0.1 WAR
Nick Markakis- .280/.364/.429 6 HR 45 RBI 2.9 WAR
Lorenzo Cain- .220/.305/.370 6 HR 22 RBI 1.7 WAR
Curtis Granderson- .224/.309/.393 12 HR 33 RBI 1.8 WAR
JD Martinez- No stats in AAA (OSFM)
Brett Gardner- .227/.327/.358 7 HR 28 RBI 1.4 WAR

How many of these guys are obtainable for me without giving up the guys I listed above? I know markakis isn't worth a whole a lot but the rest I don't know.

Thanks for any help you can give me.

Go ahead and take Cain and Martinez off your list. Same with Gardner because the in-division issue. So you're left with Markakis and Granderson. You can't get Granderson if the Mets are contending though.

So basically a C+ prospect for Markakis. Melky is worth about the same

[GamecocksLaw17]

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IM a thing the trade deadline in my braves franchise and am 2 games out of wild card. Decided I am going to go for Brock holt who is on the trade block. Holt has a slash line of .260/318/414. What would it cost me to get him from Boston?

I am also looking for a fourth outfielder. What would it cost to get ben revere? .249/295/386 with a four million dollar contract.

Are the Red Sox or Angels contending? If so its probably not realistic since those teams would probably not trade off their big league club.

[pickle2002]

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Go ahead and take Cain and Martinez off your list. Same with Gardner because the in-division issue. So you're left with Markakis and Granderson. You can't get Granderson if the Mets are contending though.

So basically a C+ prospect for Markakis. Melky is worth about the same

The mets in my franchise traded for Charlie Blackmon so they now have 6 outfielders on their team (cespedes,conforto,Blackmon,lagares,granderson and Bruce). Is there any chance they would trade him as he is currently on the bench along with Bruce and lagares?

[milldaddy35]

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Are the Red Sox or Angels contending? If so its probably not realistic since those teams would probably not trade off their big league club.

No. neither are. And both are on the trade block too.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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The mets in my franchise traded for Charlie Blackmon so they now have 6 outfielders on their team (cespedes,conforto,Blackmon,lagares,granderson and Bruce). Is there any chance they would trade him as he is currently on the bench along with Bruce and lagares?

1.8 WAR is pretty good for Granderson. Give them something like Greene + McGuire. And I didn't realize Markakis had a 2.9 WAR. He's take a bit more than I had posted if he's performing like that

[pickle2002]

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1.8 WAR is pretty good for Granderson. Give them something like Greene + McGuire. And I didn't realize Markakis had a 2.9 WAR. He's take a bit more than I had posted if he's performing like that

Isn't two B prospects a lot for a 36 year old 73 overall CF with a 15.5 mil contract? I don't know but that's just my opinion.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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No. neither are. And both are on the trade block too.

Ben Revere for Drew Harrington and Brock Holt for Joey Wentz and Austin Riley

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Isn't two B prospects a lot for a 36 year old 73 overall CF with a 15.5 mil contract? I don't know but that's just my opinion.

He's on a 3.5 WAR pace, and Greene is a 45 FV prospect and McGuire is a 40 FV prospect. You're also the one trying to acquire help at the deadline. You'd only be on the hook for half. But to play the value game.

3.5 WAR is worth around $35 million. You only get him for half of that so we'll say $18 million. Then take away the 7.5 million he has left and you get to $11.5 million in surplus. Greene is worth $13 and McGuire is worth like $8. So yeah its a bit of an overpay but you're trying to acquire help at the deadline and that costs prospect. Its not like you're trading away any of your good prospects

[pickle2002]

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He's on a 3.5 WAR pace, and Greene is a 45 FV prospect and McGuire is a 40 FV prospect. You're also the one trying to acquire help at the deadline. You'd only be on the hook for half. But to play the value game.

3.5 WAR is worth around $35 million. You only get him for half of that so we'll say $18 million. Then take away the 7.5 million he has left and you get to $11.5 million in surplus. Greene is worth $13 and McGuire is worth like $8. So yeah its a bit of an overpay but you're trying to acquire help at the deadline and that costs prospect. Its not like you're trading away any of your good prospects

Do you think I could do one of those two either McGuire or Greene and Jon Harris?

So either McGuire + Harris for Granderson
Or Greene + Harris for granderson?

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Do you think I could do one of those two either McGuire or Greene and Jon Harris?

So either McGuire + Harris for Granderson
Or Greene + Harris for granderson?

Yeah don't see why not. Go with McGuire + Harris

[pickle2002]

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Yeah don't see why not. Go with McGuire + Harris

Alright thank you.

One last thing- Juan Nicasio in my franchise is having a great year (71.0 IP 2.17 ERA 1.37 WHIP 1.4 WAR) pirates are out of it, would Jeremy Gabryszwski (C Pot 60 OVR) and Tim Lopes (C pot 58 OVR) be enough for him?

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Alright thank you.

One last thing- Juan Nicasio in my franchise is having a great year (71.0 IP 2.17 ERA 1.37 WHIP 1.4 WAR) pirates are out of it, would Jeremy Gabryszwski (C Pot 60 OVR) and Tim Lopes (C pot 58 OVR) be enough for him?

No, if he's throwing that great it will cost more than a couple C prospects

[pickle2002]

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No, if he's throwing that great it will cost more than a couple C prospects

Ok how much more? A lot more like a B?

[MrSerendipity]

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So I've started a Franchise with Kansas City. I wanted a real challenge and with the poor Major League squad and a really poor farm, KC felt like the best challenge.

It's July 19th, I'm 41-50 and it's time to move some pieces but first, here is how the league is shaking out.



On the Block:

1B - Eric Hosmer
.330 AVG, 26 HR, 62 RBI

Additional: Hosmer finished 3rd in the 2017 Home Run Derby and earned an All-Star Game Appearance. Expiring Contract.

CF - Lorenzo Cain
.302 AVG, 2 HR, 12 RBI

Additional: Full disclosure, Cain missed two months for a separated shoulder. With that said, he's been back at the plate for almost two months and has been exceptional in all of his 129 AB. Expiring Contract.

RF - Paulo Orlando
.308 AVG, 8 HR, 34 RBI

Additional: Orlando has seen 312 AB due to Cain's injury. Arbitration Eligible.

SP - Danny Duffy
3.03 ERA, 10-4, 110 SO, 113.0 IP

Additional: Duffy is ranked 3rd in Wins and 8th in Strikeouts among AL Pitchers. 5 Year Contract.

SP - Jason Hammel
3.36 ERA, 6-4, 77 SO, 96.1 IP

Additional: Currently has a four game winning streak. 2 Year Contract.

RP - Peter Moylan
1.69 ERA, 2-1, 11 SO, 17 IP

Additional: Has only sacrificed three runs all season. Expiring Contract.

C - Salvador Perez
.248 AVG, 7 HR, 30 RBI

Additional: Has made great strides in his walk-strikeout ratio with 20 BB to 45 SO. 5 Year Contract

CP - Kelvin Herrera
2.48 ERA, 21 SV, 1-2, 30 SO, 32.2 IP

Additional: Ranked 10th Overall in Saves. Expiring Contract.

I'd really like to take advantage of Washington's farm. Robles and Fedde are favorites of mine. I know Hosmer to a team like TEX makes sense but I'm not really enamored with any of their farm pieces unless Gallo is achievable via some weird trade creation. I also wouldn't mind taking a run at the Cardinals, Dodgers or Rays (given they're competing) farm systems. A team like Houston who is playing far below expectations and only has SP with an ERA less than 4.46 and a poor showing in 1B/LF could be exploitable as well. I could use some direction here though.

Disclaimer: I know I'm throwing out some big names for "desirables". I'm aware that expiring contracts and injuries must lead to tempered expectations. My expectations are thoroughly tempered.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Ok how much more? A lot more like a B?

At least a B prospect yeah. You've got a pitcher pitching lights out and available at the trade deadline. 2.5 years of Drew Pomeranz got Espinoza so 1.5 years of Nicasio who is pitching amazing is going to take a good bit more than a couple of no name C prospects. You'll have to go up a tier or two on the prospects you are willing to move.

So I've started a Franchise with Kansas City. I wanted a real challenge and with the poor Major League squad and a really poor farm, KC felt like the best challenge.

It's July 19th, I'm 41-50 and it's time to move some pieces but first, here is how the league is shaking out.



On the Block:

1B - Eric Hosmer
.330 AVG, 26 HR, 62 RBI

Additional: Hosmer finished 3rd in the 2017 Home Run Derby and earned an All-Star Game Appearance. Expiring Contract.

CF - Lorenzo Cain
.302 AVG, 2 HR, 12 RBI

Additional: Full disclosure, Cain missed two months for a separated shoulder. With that said, he's been back at the plate for almost two months and has been exceptional in all of his 129 AB. Expiring Contract.

RF - Paulo Orlando
.308 AVG, 8 HR, 34 RBI

Additional: Orlando has seen 312 AB due to Cain's injury. Arbitration Eligible.

SP - Danny Duffy
3.03 ERA, 10-4, 110 SO, 113.0 IP

Additional: Duffy is ranked 3rd in Wins and 8th in Strikeouts among AL Pitchers. 5 Year Contract.

SP - Jason Hammel
3.36 ERA, 6-4, 77 SO, 96.1 IP

Additional: Currently has a four game winning streak. 2 Year Contract.

RP - Peter Moylan
1.69 ERA, 2-1, 11 SO, 17 IP

Additional: Has only sacrificed three runs all season. Expiring Contract.

C - Salvador Perez
.248 AVG, 7 HR, 30 RBI

Additional: Has made great strides in his walk-strikeout ratio with 20 BB to 45 SO. 5 Year Contract

CP - Kelvin Herrera
2.48 ERA, 21 SV, 1-2, 30 SO, 32.2 IP

Additional: Ranked 10th Overall in Saves. Expiring Contract.

I'd really like to take advantage of Washington's farm. Robles and Fedde are favorites of mine. I know Hosmer to a team like TEX makes sense but I'm not really enamored with any of their farm pieces unless Gallo is achievable via some weird trade creation. I also wouldn't mind taking a run at the Cardinals, Dodgers or Rays (given they're competing) farm systems. A team like Houston who is playing far below expectations and only has SP with an ERA less than 4.46 and a poor showing in 1B/LF could be exploitable as well. I could use some direction here though.

Disclaimer: I know I'm throwing out some big names for "desirables". I'm aware that expiring contracts and injuries must lead to tempered expectations. My expectations are thoroughly tempered.

I don't see any way you get Robles. Is Eaton still healthy in your franchise? If not you could do a Cain/Herrera combo deal. It would also be a really bad look to trade Duffy or Perez. They just signed long term extensions and it looks terrible for a franchise to get a guy to sign and trade them like 6 months later.

Moylan is ancient so you're hoping for a C prospect.

Hammel had a rough market this offseason. He doesn't look to be pitching any better than he did last year so I don't think you could get any top-100 prospects for him, but you could get something decent if a team in need of pitching is contending.