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  • hampshirestags
    Pro
    • May 2014
    • 500

    #751
    Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by bestbrother
    Thats the problem, id only go Angels if I had Trout so dealing him would be a killer.
    Take the O's plan and don't try to shake the clubhouse up too much. Slightly below average rotation? Check. Studs that can hit the ball out of the park? Check. What are you missing? Bullpen.

    Play to the break trying your best to stay around .500 (weakest division in the AL, you can do it!) and take your little pieces and turn them into a really good bullpen piece (or 2 if you can swing it, does not have to be a lock down closer). Pap is on the FA market at around a 74 overall, squeeze a year out of him and you're right there at the end of the season. Anything can happen in the playoffs.
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    • hampshirestags
      Pro
      • May 2014
      • 500

      #752
      Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by MrSerendipity
      Thanks for all of the input. I agree that the pieces aren't there for Archer unless I move Mazara, which isn't an option. He's performing below standards for me but I think his upside is huge. What would a trade for Hosmer look like?

      As far as Hughes is concerned, Hughes has a higher overall but could I do a one for one swap for Perez? Perez is younger and still has time to grow, I'd also be taking Hughes big contract off the Twins.

      Is Choo remotely movable at this point with his contract? He's having a good year DH'ing for me with an average of .275 | 12 HR | 41 RB in 280 at bats. He's been pretty productive but that contract is bad.
      I'm still trying to come up with a good generic value for Hosmer, I've already put some thought into and still can't settle on it. This is where Profar should come into play but I'm not sure they need him (anyone see Mondesi play today? Wow.) Given his line though, I'm not sure if he would help you.

      Personally, I don't have a problem with a Perez/Hughes swap. You actually may be overpaying a little in that deal but if you're buying at the deadline, you're going to overpay a little with the nature of the open bid process (every relevant club will be looking to add Hughes with a year like that). Is he helping you at all this year?

      You're not stuck with Choo but... well, you're kind of stuck with him. However, with a line like that, why trade him?
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      • hampshirestags
        Pro
        • May 2014
        • 500

        #753
        Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
        Take on all the Braun money, give up Brandon Marsh and Alex Meyer and I think that should do it. Bruan isn't quite as expensive as his talent because of the PED stink attached to him

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        I just heard Mr. Moreno's checkbook cry out in fear. I don't even want to think about the luxury tax penalty.

        What does that work out to, 2 B's for Braun?
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        • raugustine
          Rookie
          • Apr 2017
          • 10

          #754
          Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

          Long time lurker, but first time poster.

          Anyhow, I'm playing as the Braves and actually close to competing. I am looking at finding a 3B. Preferably ready to take his MLB knocks and contribute more next year. I really have my eyes on Chapman in the A's system. Any ideas if this would be realistic, and if so, what I need to give. Maybe I am crazy, but I don't mind giving up Albies if I could net a decent package.

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          • HighCmpPct
            Denny 3K
            • Oct 2011
            • 3589

            #755
            Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by hampshirestags
            I'm still trying to come up with a good generic value for Hosmer, I've already put some thought into and still can't settle on it. This is where Profar should come into play but I'm not sure they need him (anyone see Mondesi play today? Wow.) Given his line though, I'm not sure if he would help you.

            Personally, I don't have a problem with a Perez/Hughes swap. You actually may be overpaying a little in that deal but if you're buying at the deadline, you're going to overpay a little with the nature of the open bid process (every relevant club will be looking to add Hughes with a year like that). Is he helping you at all this year?

            You're not stuck with Choo but... well, you're kind of stuck with him. However, with a line like that, why trade him?
            Hosmer tough to pin down. He bounces from really good to pretty bad at the plate. But he's always disciplined and does the little things.

            Honestly I think he could produce pretty good power 25-30hrs.... If he gets out of KC. That park can be a power killer over the course of a season.

            With that said tough he's to old to be paying for potential, he's at the age where his value is set by what he's done. I look at him like kinda a Joey Votto lite.

            I think the Royals might would be interested in Profar, he kinda fits there player model a la Escobar,Cain etc.. Mondesi playing well doesn't really effect this trade because of Profars ability to play all over the IF as well as the OF.

            That being said you're also going to have to give them some pitching because as everyone knows the Royals brass has a hard on for ALL young pitching.

            If I were the Royals I'd take Profar, Guzman, and Smoral for Hosmer. I don't know if anyone else here will like it, but I'd take it. A good athletic player in Profar that can play a few positions, a 1B prospect that could replace Hosmer in a couple years, and a young lefty pitching prospect that could have middle/back-end rotation stuff if developed properly.
            Last edited by HighCmpPct; 04-10-2017, 08:52 PM.

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            • Tdoyle2021
              Rookie
              • Apr 2017
              • 36

              #756
              Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

              Looking to deal Ozuna as I mentioned earlier. Seattle lost Jarrod Dyson for the year in this franchise. What should I (if I should) add to Mitch Haniger to get the deal done?

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              • GamecocksLaw17
                MVP
                • Jun 2015
                • 1503

                #757
                Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by Tdoyle2021
                Looking to deal Ozuna as I mentioned earlier. Seattle lost Jarrod Dyson for the year in this franchise. What should I (if I should) add to Mitch Haniger to get the deal done?
                That wouldn't really make sense for Seattle. It seems like a lateral move. They'd still have a problem in the OF

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                • raugustine
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 10

                  #758
                  Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by HighCmpPct
                  Hosmer tough to pin down. He bounces from really good to pretty bad at the plate. But he's always disciplined and does the little things.

                  Honestly I think he could produce pretty good power 25-30hrs.... If he gets out of KC. That park can be a power killer over the course of a season.

                  With that said tough he's to old to be paying for potential, he's at the age where his value is set by what he's done. I look at him like kinda a Joey Votto lite.

                  I think the Royals might would be interested in Profar, he kinda fits there player model a la Escobar,Cain etc.. Mondesi playing well doesn't really effect this trade because of Profars ability to play all over the IF as well as the OF.

                  That being said you're also going to have to give them some pitching because as everyone knows the Royals brass has a hard on for ALL young pitching.

                  If I were the Royals I'd take Profar, Guzman, and Smoral for Hosmer. I don't know if anyone else here will like it, but I'd take it. A good athletic player in Profar that can play a few positions, a 1B prospect that could replace Hosmer in a couple years, and a young lefty pitching prospect that could have middle/back-end rotation stuff if developed properly.
                  What kind of team control does Profar have? I'm a big Royals fan and it seems as though Escobar walks after this year and Mondesi moves to SS. The Royals like to take chances on guy so with warts so this seems good if Profar has much control left.

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                  • Tdoyle2021
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 36

                    #759
                    Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                    That wouldn't really make sense for Seattle. It seems like a lateral move. They'd still have a problem in the OF

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                    Makes sense. Forgot they had Cruz as a DH. Giants and Toronto are the other two logical landing spots based off need and standings.

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                    • HighCmpPct
                      Denny 3K
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 3589

                      #760
                      Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by raugustine
                      What kind of team control does Profar have? I'm a big Royals fan and it seems as though Escobar walks after this year and Mondesi moves to SS. The Royals like to take chances on guy so with warts so this seems good if Profar has much control left.
                      Mmm about 2 and a half years of control left on Profar, not all that much but honestly it's about all the time Profar has left to prove he can make it in the league anyway.

                      Profar is really just the piece of the trade that is close to the Majors, the other prospects are the stars off this one really. Especially Guzman.

                      Edit: Even when Profar is past team control he should still be within the Royals spending limit. Or even better he should be nearing the end of control about the same time the Royals should be coming back around for another run if they rebuild correctly and could be a no nice piece to deal at a trade deadline.
                      Last edited by HighCmpPct; 04-10-2017, 09:09 PM.

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                      • hampshirestags
                        Pro
                        • May 2014
                        • 500

                        #761
                        Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by raugustine
                        Long time lurker, but first time poster.

                        Anyhow, I'm playing as the Braves and actually close to competing. I am looking at finding a 3B. Preferably ready to take his MLB knocks and contribute more next year. I really have my eyes on Chapman in the A's system. Any ideas if this would be realistic, and if so, what I need to give. Maybe I am crazy, but I don't mind giving up Albies if I could net a decent package.
                        You have Riley coming, don't give up your future DP combination with Swanson. How is KC doing in your franchise? How about NYY? We can get you a 3B for next to nothing (that will help) to hold the hot corner down until Riley comes up late next year and makes you forget about Chapman (he's gonna be really expensive).
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                        • HighCmpPct
                          Denny 3K
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 3589

                          #762
                          Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by Tdoyle2021
                          Makes sense. Forgot they had Cruz as a DH. Giants and Toronto are the other two logical landing spots based off need and standings.
                          We're talking about Marcell right? If so he doesn't it the Giants play style at the plate. He does fit the Blue Jays style of they have a need in the outfield.

                          I don't see the Giants wanting to acquire him though.

                          Pitching is what the Marlins would be wanting in return though no doubt. I would say a B potential SP and a good C potential pen arm. Or 3 Mid-High C SP.

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                          • hampshirestags
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                            • May 2014
                            • 500

                            #763
                            Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by HighCmpPct
                            We're talking about Marcell right? If so he doesn't it the Giants play style at the plate. He does fit the Blue Jays style of they have a need in the outfield.

                            I don't see the Giants wanting to acquire him though.

                            Pitching is what the Marlins would be wanting in return though no doubt. I would say a B potential SP and a good C potential pen arm. Or 3 Mid-High C SP.
                            This is about where I had him at earlier today. I said 2 B's (in context of playoff possible teams) given he was having a career average year which puts him in the 2 WAR vicinity. With 2 years of arb left, there is surplus there and like you said, fits well in TOR.

                            I don't want to stray too far from OSFM rosters with the minors ratings so when you come back, give the POT ratings and we will be able settle on his value pretty quickly.
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                            • TheMadleR
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 208

                              #764
                              Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by TheMadleR
                              Now with the OSFM rosters out I'm going to be starting my real Cardinals franchise. I'm planning on developing Reyes but I want to get another arm. Is there a realistic trade out there that I could get a 1 or a 2 type rotation guy? Preferably a lefty.

                              Another trade I'm interested in doing is replacing Peralta or Wong. I'm gonna try and replace them with Defense and Contact ability as the most important factors. I just don't know what would be the most realistic options out there. I would be looking for improvement for the current year not prospects.

                              Would love some suggestions.

                              Edit: The players I consider untradeable are Fowler, Piscotty, Diaz, Carpenter, Molina, Waino and Martinez.
                              A little help please
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                              NCAA: Sooners
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                              • MrSerendipity
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2013
                                • 1397

                                #765
                                Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by hampshirestags
                                I'm still trying to come up with a good generic value for Hosmer, I've already put some thought into and still can't settle on it. This is where Profar should come into play but I'm not sure they need him (anyone see Mondesi play today? Wow.) Given his line though, I'm not sure if he would help you.

                                Personally, I don't have a problem with a Perez/Hughes swap. You actually may be overpaying a little in that deal but if you're buying at the deadline, you're going to overpay a little with the nature of the open bid process (every relevant club will be looking to add Hughes with a year like that). Is he helping you at all this year?

                                You're not stuck with Choo but... well, you're kind of stuck with him. However, with a line like that, why trade him?
                                Originally posted by HighCmpPct
                                Hosmer tough to pin down. He bounces from really good to pretty bad at the plate. But he's always disciplined and does the little things.

                                Honestly I think he could produce pretty good power 25-30hrs.... If he gets out of KC. That park can be a power killer over the course of a season.

                                With that said tough he's to old to be paying for potential, he's at the age where his value is set by what he's done. I look at him like kinda a Joey Votto lite.

                                I think the Royals might would be interested in Profar, he kinda fits there player model a la Escobar,Cain etc.. Mondesi playing well doesn't really effect this trade because of Profars ability to play all over the IF as well as the OF.

                                That being said you're also going to have to give them some pitching because as everyone knows the Royals brass has a hard on for ALL young pitching.

                                If I were the Royals I'd take Profar, Guzman, and Smoral for Hosmer. I don't know if anyone else here will like it, but I'd take it. A good athletic player in Profar that can play a few positions, a 1B prospect that could replace Hosmer in a couple years, and a young lefty pitching prospect that could have middle/back-end rotation stuff if developed properly.
                                That doesn't sound like a bad deal. Would substituting DeShields Jr. in place of Profar work? They're the same age (24), both B Potential, DeShields has less service time and they're both producing around the same right now.

                                Comparison:

                                Profar: .271 Avg | 8 HR | 32 RBI | 0 SB | 225 AB | .987 Fielding
                                DeShields Jr: .267 Avg | 2 HR | 15 RBI | 10 SB | 176 AB | 1.000 Fielding

                                As far as pitching, I think I'll go ahead and pull the trigger on Hughes for Perez straight up. Minnesota gets some cap room and young pitcher with a lot of experience but still a lot of room for growth. I get a veteran pitcher who is pitching lights out this season.
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