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  • jeffy777
    MVP
    • Jan 2009
    • 3325

    #166
    Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

    Originally posted by tnixen
    Why does the second base umpire always look back at center field and touch the top of his head before every pitch still in MLB The Show 18?

    Why can't they add a few new animations for him?

    I also notice batters running to first base touch the top of their head a lot too.

    Lots more animations are really needed for these kind of gameplay moments!
    Why did you have to point this out? Never noticed it before, but now I can't look at anything else

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    • Caulfield
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 10986

      #167
      Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

      Originally posted by ShowTyme15
      Pretty sure they did it just to show it off. It won't actually rain in Minute Maid park. It's obvious the roof is open just to show off now the delay works.
      Well, if they really wanted to show it off, they should have picked the Trop. Now that would have been one mean feat.
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      • exeter
        Rookie
        • Jun 2009
        • 146

        #168
        MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

        Would love to see managers/teams have strategic identities. Ex: teams that wait for 3 run innings VS bunt/hit/run teams...and teams that expect starters to go long VS teams that try the multi-short inning pitchers scheme...(ex: say, in season, you were to play a cpu KC and from scouts’ info you knew they run all the time—you could change pitching rotation to counter it by starting those with quick moves & catcher’s with Better D/great arms).

        Also, why not also, give option for real seasonal field wear/tear as the season progresses (which would incorporate groundskeepers into above strategies: if facing speed/running team home team’s ground crew would add extra thick sand around bases, let grass grow longer infield, etc)...so grass would get yellow and have divots in it; get dirt spots by autumn & art turf would have repaired tears in it (teams that shared stadium with football would show chalk marks for historical franchise realism)..

        Hope the above makes sense in English (French Canadian speaker)

        Bring back the Friggn Expos!!!
        Last edited by exeter; 02-16-2018, 07:28 AM.

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        • tessl
          All Star
          • Apr 2007
          • 5685

          #169
          Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

          Originally posted by Woodweaver
          The bat is a cylinder and the ball is a sphere. Both of which may have varying degrees of spin along multiple axes at the moment of impact resulting in an incredible array of results. Some of which are most certainly balls curving foul.
          Thanks for the reply. It's safe to assume the developers think this




          is realistic.

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          • countryboy
            Growing pains
            • Sep 2003
            • 52793

            #170
            Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

            Originally posted by tessl
            Thanks for the reply. It's safe to assume the developers think this




            is realistic.
            I seriously have no idea what it is that we are supposed to be seeing that is "wrong".
            I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

            I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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            • Rob_NYY
              Jedi Master
              • Dec 2004
              • 2495

              #171
              Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

              Originally posted by tessl
              Thanks for the reply. It's safe to assume the developers think this




              is realistic.
              Yes. That IS realistic! You've never seen a baseball slice in real life?

              <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/usr4qys-87c?start=23" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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              • bspring3
                Where is A-Aron
                • Jul 2012
                • 260

                #172
                Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

                Originally posted by tessl
                Thanks for the reply. It's safe to assume the developers think this




                is realistic.
                I will leave this here for anyone who has questions about the factors that cause the ball to curl foul down the lines. It is all physics.

                https://www.fangraphs.com/tht/tht-li...down-the-line/

                Also, this doesn't even take into account how the spin on the ball coming to the plate can accentuate the spin off the bat to create even more curve down the lines.
                Last edited by bspring3; 02-15-2018, 02:11 PM.
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                • GoDucks1224
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 2623

                  #173
                  Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

                  Originally posted by tessl
                  Thanks for the reply. It's safe to assume the developers think this









                  is realistic.


                  So like I said before. Do you watch actual baseball? It really seems like you don’t. Balls slice. Balls curve. I’ve seen guys hook foul balls into the dugout.

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                  • Woodweaver
                    Developer
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 1145

                    #174
                    Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

                    Originally posted by tessl
                    Thanks for the reply. It's safe to assume the developers think this




                    is realistic.
                    It did seem unrealistic when Ramone mentioned things were "farter"...

                    Seriously though, can you give a specific time to scrub to in the video where you feel you see a problem. Remember videos are shown from a WIP build.
                    "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"

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                    • countryboy
                      Growing pains
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 52793

                      #175
                      Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

                      Originally posted by Woodweaver
                      It did seem unrealistic when Ramone mentioned things were "farter"...
                      I literally spit out drink laughing at that.
                      I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                      I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


                      Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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                      • tessl
                        All Star
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 5685

                        #176
                        Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

                        Originally posted by Woodweaver
                        It did seem unrealistic when Ramone mentioned things were "farter"...

                        Seriously though, can you give a specific time to scrub to in the video where you feel you see a problem. Remember videos are shown from a WIP build.
                        LOL - Freudian slip from Ramone?

                        Video begins at the appropriate time. If you are interested in user feedback here it is. That ball in the show 16 was fair for a hit down the line. In the show 17 it curves foul - and that same thing happens a dozen times a game. Fewer hits = fewer runs which was the problem in manage mode which is 100% free of human input. Another factor was the new infielder animations which caused infielders to be a bit overpowered.

                        It is a tricky balancing act I'm sure to get the game to play realistically. I would suggest if you are going to reduce the number of hits in one area you need to find a way to increase hits somewhere else.

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                        • Woodweaver
                          Developer
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 1145

                          #177
                          Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

                          Originally posted by tessl
                          LOL - Freudian slip from Ramone?

                          Video begins at the appropriate time. If you are interested in user feedback here it is. That ball in the show 16 was fair for a hit down the line. In the show 17 it curves foul - and that same thing happens a dozen times a game. Fewer hits = fewer runs which was the problem in manage mode which is 100% free of human input. Another factor was the new infielder animations which caused infielders to be a bit overpowered.

                          It is a tricky balancing act I'm sure to get the game to play realistically. I would suggest if you are going to reduce the number of hits in one area you need to find a way to increase hits somewhere else.
                          Got you. Not so much that the ball curves foul, but the frequency of these types of fouls and how that affects total offensive output.

                          I know these numbers are examined often while balancing and finding the right "lever or knob" to adjust to get the most realistic results can be a challenge. This was a WIP progress build with human players, so hopefully, the final product with an AI v AI game will be closer to your expectations.
                          "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"

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                          • tessl
                            All Star
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 5685

                            #178
                            Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

                            Originally posted by Woodweaver
                            Got you. Not so much that the ball curves foul, but the frequency of these types of fouls and how that affects total offensive output.

                            I know these numbers are examined often while balancing and finding the right "lever or knob" to adjust to get the most realistic results can be a challenge. This was a WIP progress build with human players, so hopefully, the final product with an AI v AI game will be closer to your expectations.
                            Just watched the "little things" stream and the issue appears to have been addressed. Balls still curve but not nearly as much as in the show 17 and importantly they frequently land in fair territory.

                            The game looks impressive.

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                            • BXBRUINS
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 86

                              #179
                              MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

                              Disregard it’s.......
                              Last edited by BXBRUINS; 02-15-2018, 07:44 PM.

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                              • BXBRUINS
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 86

                                #180
                                Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

                                Originally posted by Rob_NYY
                                Yes. That IS realistic! You've never seen a baseball slice in real life?



                                <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/usr4qys-87c?start=23" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>


                                I umpire. Trust me it slices!! You better be paying attention because the speed of the ball off the bat is insane[emoji1303]


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