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  • SilverBullet1929
    MVP
    • Feb 2012
    • 1924

    #136
    Re: Uniforms Need to be Overhauled

    Originally posted by kehlis
    Hey guys, posting this here because I know all that are passionate about uniforms and their accuracy will see this.

    We're going to ask that you please try and refrain from posting about uniform colors and details in other threads and try and keep them in this one.

    We've see a few threads derailed with discussion about color accuracy which is taking away from other conversation in that thread.


    Really asking this as a favor so those that aren't as concerned about uniform accuracy can go through the threads on the streams and new info without having to go through discussion about just uniforms.

    Let me know if you have concerns with this or if you don't think this is a reasonable ask. I just think centering that conversation in one thread would be more beneficial for everyone (including developers) all around.



    STRONG EDIT: I want to be clear in my ask in that I am in no way suggesting that any of the discussion is wrong or inappropriate in any fashion. I don't want anyone to think I'm trying to segregate uniform discussion to one thread because I don't deem it important (not true). I just want to clean up some of the threads a bit and there is storm coming soon so I'm just trying to get ahead of it.
    I agree with this and thought the same earlier. I understand how the uniform discussion comes up in every thread but even I today thought "man I feel like we bring this up everywhere."

    As long as the topic doesn't get "covered up" so that it can hopefully, eventually be fixed I'm all for tidying the threads up.

    I'd hate for us to become annoying with this either.

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    • kehlis
      Moderator
      • Jul 2008
      • 27738

      #137
      Re: Uniforms Need to be Overhauled

      Originally posted by SilverBullet1929
      I agree with this and thought the same earlier. I understand how the uniform discussion comes up in every thread but even I today thought "man I feel like we bring this up everywhere."

      As long as the topic doesn't get "covered up" so that it can hopefully, eventually be fixed I'm all for tidying the threads up.

      I'd hate for us to become annoying with this either.
      I'm with you, I don't want it covered up at all. If anything Woodweaver has shown that he is willing to engage in conversation at times when he's able to which is always a plus.

      I think having a centralized thread discussing uniforms can be mutually beneficial.

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      • The Kid 24
        It's Show Time!
        • Jan 2007
        • 14766

        #138
        Re: Uniforms Need to be Overhauled

        Breakfastcat... Of the pic you posted in the new trailer thread... Red Sox red... I think the pic on the left looks pretty damn close to real life, no?

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        Last edited by The Kid 24; 02-16-2018, 09:53 PM.
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        • breakfastcat
          MVP
          • Jan 2013
          • 1018

          #139
          Re: Uniforms Need to be Overhauled

          Originally posted by The Kid 24
          Breakfastcat... Of the pic you posted in the new trailer thread... Red Sox red... I think the pic on the left looks pretty damn close to real life, no?

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          Yeah it definitely looks pretty good color wise. I still think it could be a bit brighter, though. Considering it appears to be a sunny day game, it still feels a little dark, but that might just be the shadow in that instance.

          The red of the Angels uni still looks way too washed out though.
          Last edited by breakfastcat; 02-16-2018, 10:06 PM.

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          • SilverBullet1929
            MVP
            • Feb 2012
            • 1924

            #140
            Re: Uniforms Need to be Overhauled

            Definitely think they are looking better than last year in some shots. A glimmer of hope maybe? Still, it would seem weird if they fixed some reds but not others. Like the Nats seem improved but the Jays red is still atrocious.

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            • Dubya
              Rookie
              • Feb 2018
              • 50

              #141
              Re: Uniforms Need to be Overhauled

              Anyone have a time stamp of when they mentioned the ‘98 Padres unis? I don’t think they showed them and I must’ve missed them mention it.


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              • SilverBullet1929
                MVP
                • Feb 2012
                • 1924

                #142
                Re: Uniforms Need to be Overhauled

                Originally posted by Dubya
                Anyone have a time stamp of when they mentioned the ‘98 Padres unis? I don’t think they showed them and I must’ve missed them mention it.


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                They mentioned them but didn't show them. Ramone was scrolling through a few of them while the other dev was reading off the list of new unis. They weren't making a point to show every one of them and a few weren't shown.

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                • sva91
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 2019

                  #143
                  Uniforms Need to be Overhauled

                  [ATTACH]146338[/] [ATTACH]146339nice to see Astros get a new retro, but I was really hoping for a mid 90s set. Any one of these would be great.


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                  • Blzer
                    Resident film pundit
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 42524

                    #144
                    Re: Uniforms Need to be Overhauled

                    Decided to have a little fun with colors (not just uniforms, but also sky, dirt and grass). Not perfect so don't hate.

                    Spoiler


                    Spoiler


                    I don't know what it would take on the actual development side, but I still think we have a ways to go based on what we've seen.
                    Last edited by Blzer; 02-17-2018, 11:18 AM.
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                    • tnixen
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 3184

                      #145
                      Re: Uniforms Need to be Overhauled

                      Originally posted by Blzer
                      Decided to have a little fun with colors (not just uniforms, but also sky, dirt and grass). Not perfect so don't hate.

                      Spoiler


                      I don't know what it would take on the actual development side, but I still think we have a ways to go based on what we've seen.
                      Blazer you should work for SDS

                      Really that is such an improvement and is how it should look!

                      I would love to know why the sky, grass,dirt and uniforms are not able to look like that in the game?

                      Perhaps a PS4 Limitation?
                      Last edited by tnixen; 02-17-2018, 09:36 AM.

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                      • SilverBullet1929
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 1924

                        #146
                        Re: Uniforms Need to be Overhauled

                        I know it's not as easy as that for the devs to fix but hopefully they see that post and at least use it as a point of reference. Even if the red isn't 100% perfect, just getting it close to that hue would please everyone concerned over this issue.

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                        • Blzer
                          Resident film pundit
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 42524

                          #147
                          Re: Uniforms Need to be Overhauled

                          Originally posted by tnixen
                          Blazer you should work for SDS

                          Really that is such an improvement and is how it should look!

                          I would love to know why the sky, grass,dirt and uniforms are not able to look like that in the game?

                          Perhaps a PS4 Limitation?
                          I can adjust things to my desire for only a couple of particular shots, I don't have to work within the confines of making sure that every condition is satisfied by said color scheme. I wouldn't know one lick about rendering either. Even if I did and addressed this, I would be done with my work there and would thereby tender my resignation.

                          But thanks, I'm flattered. They deserve much more credit than they get for everything else though. Even if I was a no-hitter to their perfect game, anyone who knows me knows that I believe those aren't even close to the same thing, and should never be mentioned under the same breath haha.

                          I don't know what the limitations are. Sometimes things are done completely by design/intent, in which case it is not a flaw in their eyes. Other things are supposedly style guide-based. Then things are based on how the material takes in light via PBR and whatnot. That's why I was always confused why Chase Field's walls were so messed up, and it wasn't really on their end of things when surfaced reacted to light differently.
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                          • beau21
                            It's 5 o'clock somewhere
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 1813

                            #148
                            Re: Uniforms Need to be Overhauled

                            Originally posted by Blzer
                            Decided to have a little fun with colors (not just uniforms, but also sky, dirt and grass). Not perfect so don't hate.

                            Spoiler


                            I don't know what it would take on the actual development side, but I still think we have a ways to go based on what we've seen.


                            Nice work, man!
                            That edited clip looks downright amazing. Not to say The Show (as a whole) looks bad, but your colors (and sky!) seem so much truer to life, and just have a certain 'pop' that The Show has been lacking.
                            Last edited by beau21; 02-17-2018, 09:59 AM.
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                            • TripleCrown
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 1240

                              #149
                              Re: Uniforms Need to be Overhauled

                              Two little gems from the stream !! :-)
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                              • Lisac
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2013
                                • 1818

                                #150
                                Re: Uniforms Need to be Overhauled

                                So played a couple games of 17 last night and still confused on how they cant get the red on jerseys correct but they can on cleats and access.
                                Used the Jays and their red unis (post pictures later)
                                The arm sleeves and the cleats were red, the jersey a faded red. I know the Dev said it could be because of lighting but how is that possible with everything else being the right color red? 2nd game I used Cubs vs Dodgers and Puig has red on bottom of cleats and holy cow it was red. Even the Cubs with their Alt blue unis were faded out next to the accessories.
                                Last edited by Lisac; 02-17-2018, 11:33 AM.

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