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  • KnightTemplar
    MVP
    • Feb 2017
    • 3282

    #166
    Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

    Originally posted by nemesis04
    I have been playing MVP baseball recently and they have a bunting ability slider for the cpu and user which is very effective. The show has always been very stingy in regards to allowing the user to adjust the game on a wider scale and also shutting them out of critical adjustments for game balance.
    True. I believe the sliders are 20/80 as opposed to what they should be 1/100.

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    • kric9132
      Rookie
      • Apr 2016
      • 128

      #167
      Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

      I hate it. I turn double plays off of sac bunts all the time

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      • PVarck31
        Moderator
        • Jan 2003
        • 16869

        #168
        Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

        Takes so much strategy out of the game. This is supposed to be a true sim.

        I can't really even play it anymore. It's sad, but I've soured on the game to the point of maybe playing once or twice a month.

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        • reyes the roof
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2009
          • 11525

          #169
          Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

          I thought it would be safe to bunt with a man on 2nd since nobody ever covers 3rd, but since there wasn't a force my runner just stood on 2nd causing me to waste an out. Apparently I'll have to start manually sending him. Is there any way to put a contact play on so my runner knows to go for 3rd as soon as I put the bunt down?

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          • JTommy67
            Pro
            • Jul 2012
            • 598

            #170
            Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

            Having read through this thread and seeing all the frustration, I'd like to add something that I think has been missed in the discussion. The decision on the part of the devs to alter the bunting mechanics/physics is deserving of criticism because it pushes the real problem out of the picture and makes matters worse.

            The issue is not bunting but defense...if people online are taking advantage of bunting then this means there is not an effective way to counter it defensively. All you have to do is imagine what would happen in real life if a MLB team continually bunted against an opponent. After a couple of times, the catcher, pitcher, and corner infielders would be prepared for it. The would creep up, charging the area in front of the plate. Essentially, there reaction to the play would increase as its attempted more and more.

            But defensive positioning in the game is somewhat limited. You can bring the corners in, but does this really change their readiness?

            If you are playing this game, and you know a bunt is coming, and yet you also know you will be unable to stop it, then THAT is what needs to be fixed.

            Bunt readiness needs to be something that can be implemented as an additional defensive shift or with some kind of hot button...this will cause your corner infielders to charge hard in anticipation and your pitcher/catcher's reaction time to increase. The trade off is you lose reaction if the batter swings away.

            This would eliminate the need to change the bunting physics...which is a terrible band-aid solution which wrecks other parts of the game and just spreads the problem around.

            This is and always has been a defensive issue...that's what needs fixed, then they no longer need these ridiculous bunt rocket shots.

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            • JustinJack1221
              Banned
              • Sep 2018
              • 7

              #171
              Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

              LOL. The fact that they thought it was a good idea to take one of the basic fundamentals of baseball and turn it into a joke to appease the AGGREGAR children online who will never be happy independently and suppress their incessant whining, should tell you everything you need to know where are your priorities tbh.

              I do not mind two froggy focks if someone "cheesed" in line with Billy Hamilton and company. and you have problems with that. He is a boss of personal problems, and comes with the territory to play a sports game online. See: any other sports game that exists with an online mode.

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              • Caulfield
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 10986

                #172
                Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

                has this dragging finally been slayed?
                I can't really know for sure because I don't use default sliders,
                combined with my less than stellar skill level
                just checking to see if the last week has been time enough to render a meaningful verdict
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                • Jeffrey Smith
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 1925

                  #173
                  Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

                  Originally posted by Caulfield
                  has this dragging finally been slayed?
                  I can't really know for sure because I don't use default sliders,
                  combined with my less than stellar skill level
                  just checking to see if the last week has been time enough to render a meaningful verdict


                  I’ve only bunted 5-6 times so far and only o e has been a rocket to the first baseman.

                  The others haven’t all been successful but they’ve looked like a bunt should look. I’ve been happy so far.

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                  • canes21
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 22909

                    #174
                    Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

                    Originally posted by Caulfield
                    has this dragging finally been slayed?
                    I can't really know for sure because I don't use default sliders,
                    combined with my less than stellar skill level
                    just checking to see if the last week has been time enough to render a meaningful verdict
                    I don't believe it's been fixed. I've tried to sac bunt 4 times now and all 4 either made it to the infield dirt or were caught as basically a line drive for an easy out.

                    The CPU has tried to sac bunt twice against me. One resulted in a popup caught in the dirt between 1st and 2nd. The other came off the bat hard and was an easy double play.

                    I've drag bunt once so far and it actually was how a bunt should be off of the bat, died slightly up the line 10 feet from home plate.

                    Sac bunts are still broken in my limited experience so far.

                    I guess having 3 separate game modes still doesn't allow them to tune the bunts on simulation to actually behave like real bunts. It's ridiculous they've destroyed bunting in the game because they had no idea how to fix it from being exploited online.

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                    • countryboy
                      Growing pains
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 52712

                      #175
                      Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

                      Bunting has been fine on my end. Aside from bunting in the air, I’ve been successful in sacrifice bunting


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                      • Rmiok222
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 3129

                        #176
                        Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

                        First of all I love how this OP is from 2018. It’s been a problem every year since then, that’s sad lol. Secondly I haven’t bunted much but I always forget to “deaden” it by letting go of triangle right when the ball is about to hit the bat. I’ve seen a few people say that works. Honestly haven’t tried it much myself yet.


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                        • knucklecutter
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2020
                          • 608

                          #177
                          Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

                          I've had better success so far this year than in years past.
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                          • Caulfield
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 10986

                            #178
                            Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

                            I haven't hit into any DP's but I too have popoed up a couple to the pitcher. as long as the gidp bunts don't happen, I'll be fine with an occasional bunt. honestly I'm more likely to drop down a drag than attempt a sacrifice, unless it's late and a single tally will do
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                            • knich1
                              Pro
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 796

                              #179
                              Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              Bunting has been fine on my end. Aside from bunting in the air, I’ve been successful in sacrifice bunting


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                              Does releasing triangle just before contact work? How have you been doing it?

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                              • countryboy
                                Growing pains
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 52712

                                #180
                                Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

                                Originally posted by knich1
                                Does releasing triangle just before contact work? How have you been doing it?
                                Yeah I try to release triangle just before contact as I always have and its better this year than year's past.

                                Also the CPU is better at not taking silly chances at getting the lead runner that would result in men on first and second.
                                I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                                I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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