Lack of attention to franchise mode..thoughts?

[Therebelyell626]

Re: Lack of attention to franchise mode..thoughts?

Love the manager/coach shout. Add Morale to that list. They added something that gave players a bit of life but I need some way to interact with them, if a player is unhappy let me give him a pep talk, a bullpen/hitting session and make some kind of difference. I didn’t need a suite of brand new features, just improvements building on some of what we already have.

Agree with you and country boy statement you quoted. I don't need them to reinvent the wheel. Just make the things we have better and more engaging and I would be pleased.

[tabarnes19_SDS]

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I would be happy if legacy bugs were addressed. Players should not receive more in arbitration then go on market and make 7 million a year.

There needs to be work on financials where salaries are proportionate to quality of player and stats play a part in negotiation. Currently its age, position and potential/overall. A guy like corbin signing huge deal doesn't happen in the Show.

Players are always pulled on revocable waivers. There is no option to work out a trade if you put a claim in.

Awards added to cards and keeping logs of in season transactions. If I'm in July I can't look and see who was traded in may. The logs are reset.

Players trades show tot instead of splitting stats between teams. A player traded in a walk year and signing with another team in the offseason will show tot and you would not know what team they were traded to or played for.

Once in the postseason you can't look back on regular season stats.

The market that in played in should play more in financial muscle. The current financial system is an albatross in trying to figure out how much you can spend and what is available and what total budget is.

In offseason there is no way to do player or team options.

Trade logic needs work and can only do 3 for 3 trades. Should be able to trade cash.

Draft needs serious work.

Players are sent to minors when they should be passed through waiver and as a vet would refuse assignment.

We should be able to edit managers and scouts.

Just a few off the top of head.

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[Dolenz]

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It would be great if Franchise mode could get a big update but I don't pretend to know what happens behind the scenes at SDS or what mandates or goals Sony sets for them.

I am guessing that the highest priority is given to retaining the most customers possible from year to year. RTTS and DD are the two most played modes so getting those people to spring for the new version is probably the number one priority on their list.

It may be a sad thing but potentially losing 10% of your franchise customers due to lack of updates hurts far less than losing 10% of the RTTS or DD customers for that reason.

In a perfect world they would have the time and resources to work on all modes equally every year but it is not a perfect world.

[Siuflyer]

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This past year, I picked up NBA 2K19. It was my first NBA 2K game in several years (since 2K11?). I had no idea the amount of info they provided and immersive features they included in MyLeague/MyGM, like full career award and injury histories, retired jerseys, contract extensions, league rule changes, player interactions, the ability to relocate/expand, ability to set prices for tickets/concessions, etc., and more.

It totally blew my mind, and seems so much more in-depth than what The Show offers, and even more than Madden and NHL have, which were the other recent sports games I am familiar with. And both those games do have relocation, Owner Modes, etc.

NBA's mode is not without flaws. But it did set the bar for offline Franchise for me. And The Show and other sports titles need some work to get closer to that bar, for sure.

Couldn’t agree more, last year was my first year back with the NBA franchise and all I could think while playing MyLeague was man, I wish we had something just like this for MLB...

[countryboy]

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I would be happy if legacy bugs were addressed. Players should not receive more in arbitration then go on market and make 7 million a year.

There needs to be work on financials where salaries are proportionate to quality of player and stats play a part in negotiation. Currently its age, position and potential/overall. A guy like corbin signing huge deal doesn't happen in the Show.

Players are always pulled on revocable waivers. There is no option to work out a trade if you put a claim in.

Awards added to cards and keeping logs of in season transactions. If I'm in July I can't look and see who was traded in may. The logs are reset.

Players trades show tot instead of splitting stats between teams. A player traded in a walk year and signing with another team in the offseason will show tot and you would not know what team they were traded to or played for.

Once in the postseason you can't look back on regular season stats.

The market that in played in should play more in financial muscle. The current financial system is an albatross in trying to figure out how much you can spend and what is available and what total budget is.

In offseason there is no way to do player or team options.

Trade logic needs work and can only do 3 for 3 trades. Should be able to trade cash.

Draft needs serious work.

Players are sent to minors when they should be passed through waiver and as a vet would refuse assignment.

We should be able to edit managers and scouts.

Just a few off the top of head.

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Agree with the list.

The bolded part in regards to the player/club options, are you referring to the bug where not everyone with a club option shows up on screen for you to accept/decline, or is this a different issue?

[tabarnes19_SDS]

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Agree with the list.



The bolded part in regards to the player/club options, are you referring to the bug where not everyone with a club option shows up on screen for you to accept/decline, or is this a different issue?

Thats it. Was added with the phases.

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[orioles0615]

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This is where I am.

Look I understand the want and desire for expansion, create a stadium, relocation, and things of that nature, but for me the first thing I want them to do is fix/tune/expand what they already have in the game.

The draft needs to be flushed out. Way to basic. Managers/Coaches need to have an impact on the game and be their own person instead of just a face in the dugout and part of the equation when it comes to players rising/falling attributes. Training needs to be flushed out as well, again too basic. All-star game selections need to be tuned/re-balanced. Player cards need to be expanded to include a tab that shows individual player awards and successes. Injuries need to be expanded upon so they have lingering effects.

So many "little" fixes would go a long way to the quality of life of this mode.

This exactly. One main thing for me is the lack of minor league stats, you can't track a prospects minor league stats to majors, and have all of a player stats at no matter what level.

[countryboy]

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Thats it. Was added with the phases.

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Oh ok.

Yeah that bug pisses me off because you're scared to add a club option to a contract because you may not get to make the choice and then lose the guy to free agency.

I had that happen with a player earlier in my franchise (forget who now) but I had to re-sign them in free agency to more money than what the club option would've been for because I couldn't exercise it.

[orioles0615]

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Ugh just what we need here, another thread bitching about franchise mode.

Good, for years the mode has been lacking and for years on this forum especially you would get crapped on for saying anything negative about this game. I am glad people are finally waking up and see that this game has been stale for a few years.

[DanH35]

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This is where I am.

Look I understand the want and desire for expansion, create a stadium, relocation, and things of that nature, but for me the first thing I want them to do is fix/tune/expand what they already have in the game.

The draft needs to be flushed out. Way to basic. Managers/Coaches need to have an impact on the game and be their own person instead of just a face in the dugout and part of the equation when it comes to players rising/falling attributes. Training needs to be flushed out as well, again too basic. All-star game selections need to be tuned/re-balanced. Player cards need to be expanded to include a tab that shows individual player awards and successes. Injuries need to be expanded upon so they have lingering effects.

So many "little" fixes would go a long way to the quality of life of this mode.

I think this is a good way to look at things. I highly doubt expansion and relocation will ever be put in the game, that’s just something I think MLB will not allow. It’s best to have realistic expectations. I’ve been doing a little franchise stuff lately and honestly it’s not too bad. Tweaking things and making some stuff deeper is the way to go. They need to get better trade and free agent signing logic. Three way trades, international signings, and non-roster invites would add a lot to the realism. Player performance needs more emphasis. If a closer is blowing save after save, he should be moved to middle relief, if a player in AAA is tearing the cover off the ball, he should be called up. Training and progression are there, but can be updated. Make it performance based. It might be too much for the CPU to handle, but if they applied the RttS progression/regression model to every player in franchise it would be awesome. I’m sure there’s some stuff I’m forgetting, but I feel like I’ve typed too much already.

[JoshC1977]

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I picked up NHL for the first time in years and was amazed at how solid the franchise mode was. I go to various NHL forums...it's nothing but whining about how it is "stale" and "never gets attention".

I picked up NBA 2k for the first time in a couple of years. My league is a very deep mode with options. I go to various 2k forums....it's nothing but whining about how "broke" (sic) it is.

Why am I saying this? Because when you play the same thing year-in and year-out, it's going to be very familiar. It's very easy to overlook how many "little things" have been improved upon over the years. It's not a coincidence that many of the same people saying "I only play franchise mode" are also saying "It's stale".

At some stage, no matter how much a developer works on one particular mode, it's going to get stale if you do nothing but play that one thing. No matter how much you might love it, if you eat the exact same meals every day, you're going to tire of it eventually. It is therefore incumbent upon yourselves to find your own ways to freshen it up or (gasp!) branch out and try other things.

I'm not saying that MLB's franchise mode doesn't need some minor tweaks here and there, but I also don't agree with the mindset that it needs some dramatic overhaul.

[ShadyFan25]

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Franchise is what it is. It's nothing too deep and spectacular but you can still have fun with it. It's just sad to see SDS disrespect the mode and it's players by ignoring it recent years.

[Therebelyell626]

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Training and progression are there, but can be updated. Make it performance based..

Last year 75% of the equation WAS performance based and 25% potential based. This was good and bad. It rendered training useless as your players would regress if they weren't hitting even if you were training them in certain attributes. Overall it was a pretty good change but you had to be very careful with your minor league players progress because they could fall off of a cliff if they slumped for a couple of months

[Impetuous65]

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My only "lack of attention to franchise" is that I will no longer give SDS the benefit of the doubt or use the crutch of a small development team as a way to scapegoat them any more. After hearing the focus and dedication to March to October and the resources allocated to take that away from franchise in order to make a stand alone mode is all the info I need.

[underdog13]

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Last year 75% of the equation WAS performance based and 25% potential based. This was good and bad. It rendered training useless as your players would regress if they weren't hitting even if you were training them in certain attributes. Overall it was a pretty good change but you had to be very careful with your minor league players progress because they could fall off of a cliff if they slumped for a couple of months

Are you sure it changed? I didn't notice a difference in rtts with CPU players.


And production based progression is always worse. It makes no logical sense.

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