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  • moTIGS
    Pro
    • Jun 2003
    • 569

    #91
    Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

    Originally posted by moTIGS
    Update:

    Reloading a dozen or so times from a post-WS, pre-offseason save, the issue always happened. Several contracts reset in significant ways, totally screwing up my budget.

    Went back into 18, finished the offseason, and then loaded the Spring Training save in 19. Everything looks accurate now (save my 1B having a funky batting stance).

    So if there are people considering carrying over old franchises, keep an eye on contracts and maybe don’t start in 2019 in the offseason.
    Further update:

    Played a full season in 19 with the carryover save. Finished the playoffs. Simmer to the postseason.

    Same thing happens again. Contracts are all screwed up.

    Issue has been reported, but at this point I’m basically stuck.

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    • tessl
      All Star
      • Apr 2007
      • 5685

      #92
      Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

      Originally posted by moTIGS
      Further update:

      Played a full season in 19 with the carryover save. Finished the playoffs. Simmer to the postseason.

      Same thing happens again. Contracts are all screwed up.

      Issue has been reported, but at this point I’m basically stuck.
      With a carryover save do you get the new contracts and budget immediately or at the start of the off season?

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      • delspf
        Rookie
        • Mar 2004
        • 452

        #93
        Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

        So was this addressed at all??
        Can't believe I been a member here this long

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        • Roscosuper
          Banned
          • Mar 2008
          • 923

          #94
          Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

          Originally posted by delspf
          So was this addressed at all??
          Yeah, was there anything from good 'ole SDS?

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          • Mike Lowe
            All Star
            • Dec 2006
            • 5287

            #95
            Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

            Curious if anyone's seen anything. I can offer Keuchel $7M for 5 years on Opening Day which definitely seems off still.

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            • tabarnes19_SDS
              Game Designer
              • Feb 2003
              • 3084

              #96
              Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

              I do not think it has been adjusted. I sent an email to a developer about that and a few other things. Hopefully logic for signings and trades is adjusted.

              Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

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              • delv213
                Rookie
                • Feb 2015
                • 47

                #97
                Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

                This is easily fixable if you edit the overalls like I do since contract demands is based on overalls and have been for years. Give them meaningless simulation based attribute edits like fielding for pitchers who are actually good fielders and won gold gloves/put up lots of runs fielded by Fangraphs IE: Stroman and then they're actually asking for realistic demands in Free Agency. Pitching clutch is also another one that's good for those pitchers who seem to win a lot of games despite being above average pitchers like Porcello.


                And for batters, the easiest edits is to make them more clutch in most spots if they drive in a lot of runs per year. IE: Encarnacion and Nelson Cruz will have 99 clutch despite no speed or fielding attributes making them mid 80s overall.


                Potential also has a small effect on contract demands with guys who have 90+ potential asking for the most obviously.

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                • Kotter
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 513

                  #98
                  Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

                  I'm not seeing any issues in my carryover save. There are no super inflated salaries like you get with default 19 rosters. I simmed my carryover save through the first few years and didn't see anything crazy with my Cubs, but in a default 19 franchise Heyward and Darvish's bloated contracts forced the Cubs to trade Rizzo and Hendricks and not re-sign Bryant or Baez.

                  I also didn't notice any existing contacts change like another poster said, everyone who had a current contract stayed the same in terms of years remaining and salary when I started the first offseason.

                  Since the franchise engine is still built around 18 budgets it seems as though an 18 carryover might be the way to go... at least in my end.


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                  • ThePride1987
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 19

                    #99
                    Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

                    Originally posted by tabarnes19
                    I do not think it has been adjusted. I sent an email to a developer about that and a few other things. Hopefully logic for signings and trades is adjusted.

                    Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk



                    Hopefully you get a response, interested to know if anything will be fixed.

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                    • tabarnes19_SDS
                      Game Designer
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 3084

                      #100
                      Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

                      Originally posted by ThePride1987
                      Hopefully you get a response, interested to know if anything will be fixed.
                      No response, but I hope it gets addressed. The game plays great but I cannot get into it because the trade and salary logic is a mess.

                      Trading to improve a team is almost non existent anymore. Occasionally you will get the big trade of a cheap controllable guy like Merrifield, but never really see prospect for vet trade. You will not see a star ever traded this year.

                      In the offseason players make less in arbitration then they did the year before. Guys like Kris Bryant will get 10 million in offseason.

                      Contracts revert back to old style. You will see closers make 5 million a year in the offseason.

                      I have tried giving each team sponsorships, turned trade slider up, turned budgets off.....

                      Nothing helps the logic.



                      Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

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                      • ThePride1987
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 19

                        #101
                        Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

                        Originally posted by tabarnes19
                        No response, but I hope it gets addressed. The game plays great but I cannot get into it because the trade and salary logic is a mess.

                        Trading to improve a team is almost non existent anymore. Occasionally you will get the big trade of a cheap controllable guy like Merrifield, but never really see prospect for vet trade. You will not see a star ever traded this year.

                        In the offseason players make less in arbitration then they did the year before. Guys like Kris Bryant will get 10 million in offseason.

                        Contracts revert back to old style. You will see closers make 5 million a year in the offseason.

                        I have tried giving each team sponsorships, turned trade slider up, turned budgets off.....

                        Nothing helps the logic.



                        Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

                        I should've done my homework before buying this game. With all the problems with Franchise mode, I never would've bought this game if I realized what I was up against. I'd be better off finding an older version of the Show, back when DD wasn't the center of their attention. I just want good old fashioned franchise mode without having to control everything (which, it sounds like THAT doesn't even work properly right now).

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                        • Ace1234NY
                          Rookie
                          • Jan 2018
                          • 92

                          #102
                          Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

                          So here's a weird one. If I carryover a save *during* the offseason. It seems to screw up contract renewable guys. In some cases, but not all, the amount a player signs for will not be the amount of salary he counts against your budget. I may have to go back tonight and take pics to show what I mean. But for example, say I sign Amed Rosario for $500K. The transactions screen will say he signed for $500K. His morale for contract will be $500K. But when you look at his contract page, the budget screen, or the trade screen, he's actually counting for $1.4 mil in salary. The numbers vary, but this happens for quite a few of the renewable guys. Mostly the salaries end up being higher, but sometimes they're lower. One time when testing this, Rosario signed for $500K, but ended up costing me $26 mil (!). The fix is pretty simple. Carryover your save *before* advancing to the offseason. Everything worked quite well for me when I did that. Thankfully, I kept an extra save from 18 from right before I advanced to the offseason in case of weirdness like this.

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                          • Therebelyell626
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2018
                            • 2892

                            #103
                            Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

                            Originally posted by tabarnes19
                            No response, but I hope it gets addressed. The game plays great but I cannot get into it because the trade and salary logic is a mess.

                            Trading to improve a team is almost non existent anymore. Occasionally you will get the big trade of a cheap controllable guy like Merrifield, but never really see prospect for vet trade. You will not see a star ever traded this year.

                            In the offseason players make less in arbitration then they did the year before. Guys like Kris Bryant will get 10 million in offseason.

                            Contracts revert back to old style. You will see closers make 5 million a year in the offseason.

                            I have tried giving each team sponsorships, turned trade slider up, turned budgets off.....

                            Nothing helps the logic.



                            Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
                            I have run several test franchises already this year and see a lot of "stars" getting traded. In fact maybe too much. The brewers trafe christian yelling almost 50% of the time. This shouldn't be happening

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                            • tabarnes19_SDS
                              Game Designer
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 3084

                              #104
                              Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

                              Originally posted by Therebelyell626
                              I have run several test franchises already this year and see a lot of "stars" getting traded. In fact maybe too much. The brewers trafe christian yelling almost 50% of the time. This shouldn't be happening
                              Is it a carryover save?

                              Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

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                              • Therebelyell626
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2018
                                • 2892

                                #105
                                Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

                                Originally posted by tabarnes19
                                Is it a carryover save?

                                Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
                                No. I never use carryover saves. This year I am seeing a ton of star for star trades or decent vet and decent vet for star trades. I am seeing almost no prospects on the move. Even rebuilding teams are for concerned with trading there good players for a different good player. Honestly the trade logic is the worse this year I have ever seems. I think a lot of it has to do with the new rating system. I am using Full minors and honestly the game just does not consider the prospects to be very good players at all.

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