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  • Drty_Windshield
    Banned
    • Mar 2018
    • 880

    #271
    Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

    Originally posted by potsey7
    This is what I was interested in. Have played games for years but never knew much about the technical things you guys talk about.

    So is a game that is playing at 30 FPS one that is graphically not as good as one playing at 60 FPS? Or am I missing what FPS winds up influencing?

    The graphics looks depend on the games engine, resolution of the individual textures, shaders, various anti aliasing techniques etc... Frames per second is how many still images are displayed every second which in turn creates what you perceive as motion. Obviously 60fps (the industry standard) will be smoother than 30. 60+ fps on PC games will be smoother than 60 if your brain can distinguish the difference. From a hardware standpoint, the more intense the scene is (graphically) determines how much hardware power (cpu, gpu, ram) is required to achieve a certain fps. Logic dictates that with consoles having set hardware (much less powerful compared to top of the line PC's) , to achieve and maintain a certain fps, then you have to dumb the graphics down the higher the desired fps is. In a nutshell, that's how it works.

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    • MDgolf
      MVP
      • Oct 2013
      • 1421

      #272
      Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

      Someone should mention this issue during the twitch broadcast later today


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      • BlueSkies77
        Rookie
        • Jul 2018
        • 295

        #273
        Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

        MLB 18 isn’t 100% smooth either. I was kinda shocked when I got it in mid year last year with my PS4. Hadn’t played an MLB The Show game since MLB 14 on the PS3. MLB 12 and 13 are smooth as butter in every way.

        18 stutters a lot, but mainly only when you hit foul balls, so it works.

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        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52706

          #274
          Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

          Originally posted by MDgolf
          Someone should mention this issue during the twitch broadcast later today


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          They are aware of the issue


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          • audbal
            Rookie
            • Dec 2011
            • 382

            #275
            Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

            I wish there was an option to play in a empty stadium. Take the crowd out of the equation. Crowd seems to effect frame rate.

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            • MDgolf
              MVP
              • Oct 2013
              • 1421

              #276
              Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

              Originally posted by countryboy
              They are aware of the issue


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              Not that I don’t believe you but when did they acknowledge it?


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              • Blzer
                Resident film pundit
                • Mar 2004
                • 42514

                #277
                Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

                Originally posted by audbal
                I wish there was an option to play in a empty stadium. Take the crowd out of the equation. Crowd seems to effect frame rate.
                Play practice mode or Home Run Derby. No, seriously.

                In practice mode (no crowd), there are still frame duplicates in practice mode for batting just like there are in-game, at least for stadiums that exhibit it. I mentioned this earlier. In Home Run Derby (sold out crowd), everything is smooth as silk.

                Apparently the crowd doesn't have as much to do with it as we imagined, or at least isn't the only determining factor. I do realize that HRD is essentially completely different in coding, but practice mode might as well be the game without crowd, commentary, or a PA announcer (though a widget can be enabled for you to loop events).
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                • jeffy777
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3319

                  #278
                  Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

                  Originally posted by MDgolf
                  Not that I don’t believe you but when did they acknowledge it?


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                  I think I recall someone quoting Victor earlier in this thread, plus replies from bug reports.

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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52706

                    #279
                    Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

                    Originally posted by MDgolf
                    Not that I don’t believe you but when did they acknowledge it?


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                    People have stated in this thread that they have reached out to SDS and received feedback from Victor that it was noted and being looked at.

                    Also noted on the Show Nation forums.
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                    • MLB14
                      Pro
                      • May 2014
                      • 636

                      #280
                      Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

                      I would think the developers would strive very strongly for a solid 60 fps when batting.

                      I do.

                      I think something was introduced in the animation loop of the game that's causing this.. because blzer said the frames weren't smooth even in batting practice mode with an empty stadium.

                      I think it's CPU related..
                      Last edited by MLB14; 04-04-2019, 11:42 PM.
                      Do it. (Release The Show for PC)

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                      • Blzer
                        Resident film pundit
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 42514

                        #281
                        Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

                        Originally posted by MLB14
                        I would think the developers would strive very strongly for a solid 60 fps when batting.

                        I do.

                        I think something was introduced in the animation loop of the game that's causing this.. because blzer said the frames weren't smooth even in batting practice mode with an empty stadium.

                        I think it's CPU related..
                        It may be, but it's not in every stadium.

                        So I think it's still stadium-related. I just don't know how much the crowd has to do with it. Heck, maybe the seats themselves are as much of the problem as the crowds.
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                        • jeffy777
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                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3319

                          #282
                          Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

                          I think it's stadium-related as well. Been playing mainly RTTS and it's very smooth on "Faster", but the ballparks are also very small and very, very ugly. At times I feel like I'm playing on PS3 when I see some of the textures and 2D-looking objects over the outfield wall on homerun shots.
                          Last edited by jeffy777; 04-05-2019, 12:49 AM.

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                          • MDgolf
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 1421

                            #283
                            Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

                            Where do we go? Where do we go now?


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                            • Blzer
                              Resident film pundit
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 42514

                              #284
                              Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

                              I did a completely non-scientific experiment, playing in all 30 MLB ballparks, and "felt out" their framerates when it comes to pitches coming in on Faster mode. I only did the eye test, and it was playing in each for a very limited time. Every game was a June, 7pm start time (though I did simulate to the 6th inning at times, and nothing changed per park) with clear skies and my custom batting camera based off the Wide preset.

                              I'm merely going to group it in two tiers: good and bad. Not all of the good are pristine, and some of the bad are significantly worse than others. Hell, there are some in different lists that are closer to each other than they are closer to some in their same list, but I want to start small for now. I did my best, but here's where I'm starting:

                              Good
                              - Angel Stadium
                              - Busch Stadium
                              - Chase Field
                              - Dodger Stadium
                              - Kauffman Stadium
                              - Marlins Park
                              - Oakland Coliseum
                              - Rogers Centre
                              - T-Mobile Park
                              - Tropicana Field

                              Bad
                              - Citi Field
                              - Citizens Bank Park
                              - Comerica Park
                              - Coors Field
                              - Fenway Park
                              - Globe Life Park
                              - Guaranteed Rate Field
                              - Miller Park
                              - Minute Maid Park
                              - Nationals Park
                              - Oracle Park
                              - Oriole Park
                              - PETCO Park
                              - PNC Park
                              - Progressive Field
                              - SunTrust Park
                              - Target Field
                              - Wrigley Field
                              - Yankee Stadium


                              Later I will actually capture them at 60 FPS, and figure out how many frames are duplicated in each park during pitches. Then I can do a true sorting, and try and determine if there's a particular reason this is occurring more so in some stadiums and not in others.
                              Last edited by Blzer; 04-05-2019, 04:00 PM.
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                              • jeffy777
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 3319

                                #285
                                Re: MLB '19 Framerate drops/sutters help and discussion thread

                                Thanks for taking the time to do this Blzer. I hope SDS takes note.

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