MLB The Show 19 Patch 1.06 Available Later This Morning, Patch Notes

[KnightTemplar]

Re: MLB The Show 19 Patch 1.06 Available Later This Morning, Patch Notes

Anyone who is playing on the PS4 Pro with the Faster option and same gameplay cameras have the same framerate issues in certain stadiums that we have. You either consciously don't see them, they may be insignificant, your television is outputting at a higher refresh rate so they could be invisible, or I don't know what. But nobody here has a superior disc or console (to the Pro, at least).

If you play on Balanced or Sharper, the framerate is already worsened so the effect is likely diminished, or it might not be there at all, depending on who knows what.

I have two videos out there running at 59.94 FPS: one from a Spring Training stadium and one from Minute Maid Park. For whatever reason we want to throw out there, the MMP video shows certain frames duplicating. Not skipping, not running at a slower framerate... duplicating. This is mid-pitch.

Maybe cameras with more or less FOV will render items better when the pitch is thrown, I'm not sure which. People also have concerns with the dynamic cameras and the framerate there, as have I... so I play with the Retro fielding camera, and things are better for me in that regard. Anyway, the framerate concerns are real. If you are playing the game with settings where you can't see them, or if they don't affect your style of play on a visual level, then that's good on you! I mean that sincerely, that's a good thing. I envy your experience.

As for people griping they haven't been fixed, I'd tread softly and bite my tongue if I were you. You don't know what it takes to get that done, and releasing patches to fix other things doesn't mean they're not working on it as we speak. Don't let twenty patch releases be an indicator of what they may be trying to do to optimize the game in those certain stadiums. Furthermore, don't be upset at the result if they fix it and the game seems to have regressed with regard to visual fidelity. There is always a trade-off when it comes to increasing performance.

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All this being said... not including the home run celebration camera option is a big no-no in my book, and they are intentionally leaving that out. Shame on them for that one. I always thought they took pride in the number of options they provide us, and to have deliberately removed it and not looked back is pretty unfortunate for a great number of us.

okay, appreciate your thorough response. That said if this is making the game completely unplayable (and that's been said enough), I just don't get it. If you want it fixed, okay, but there are those like me (and it's not consciously) who have looked at the game and can't see anything you speak of. I just played a game in a minor park, I think it's called City Center Field, and it was smooth as silk. I paid attention to framerate and....I just don't get it. Thanks for the response though.

[nflguzzler]

Re: MLB The Show 19 Patch 1.06 Available Later This Morning, Patch Notes

Not really sure how you think the game plays flawless because if you watch with balls are in towards third base right field Outfield all these players reaction times are. Acting good and they are causing the players to have je steps going for the Ball Hog so the ball doesn't go through MLB The Show these Third Base first base left field and right field issues

[Blzer]

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okay, appreciate your thorough response. That said if this is making the game completely unplayable (and that's been said enough), I just don't get it. If you want it fixed, okay, but there are those like me (and it's not consciously) who have looked at the game and can't see anything you speak of.

I never said it's unplayable. I wouldn't have ever even created a thread about it, but I surely will contribute to that thread. I'm not just in that thread over and over saying "framerate sucks, framerate sucks." I'm in that thread trying to resolve the problem by pointing out where there are issues and where there are not.

Did you see the two YouTube videos? You don't see anything at the Astros park? I know this is asking to be picky just to show the differences, but go to 0.25x speed on YouTube and see the difference at MMP versus the ST ballpark. The several frame duplicates are what's bothering people. For those who are sensitive to it, it's a big issue. Not unplayable, but still glaring. Keep that in mind.

I just played a game in a minor park, I think it's called City Center Field, and it was smooth as silk. I paid attention to framerate and....I just don't get it. Thanks for the response though.

Minor league parks don't have framerate issues. There's probably not enough to render on screen while hitting to make it as such. Just as you said: "Smooth as silk."

Many of the major league ballparks are like that, as well. Some of them have issues. I'd like to point out which ones they are when I play in each one (hopefully time of day isn't something that affects this, otherwise it'll be a long project). Maybe doing that will help in the long run when it comes to them resolving this and delivering out a patch that addresses it.

[JoshC1977]

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okay, appreciate your thorough response. That said if this is making the game completely unplayable (and that's been said enough), I just don't get it. If you want it fixed, okay, but there are those like me (and it's not consciously) who have looked at the game and can't see anything you speak of. I just played a game in a minor park, I think it's called City Center Field, and it was smooth as silk. I paid attention to framerate and....I just don't get it. Thanks for the response though.

It’s a transient issue. Some ballparks are fine, but others are very problematic. I suspect it is a crowd rendering issue so minor league parks are going to be better (as are major league parks with minimal fans in the batting view).


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[countryboy]

Re: MLB The Show 19 Patch 1.06 Available Later This Morning, Patch Notes

So any information/discussion as to what was actually fixed via the patch?

Anybody noticing any little subtle changes that weren't mentioned?

ex:

CPU not replacing positional players in spring traning games
Face swaps that occur when making defensive substitutions

[Blzer]

Re: MLB The Show 19 Patch 1.06 Available Later This Morning, Patch Notes

So any information/discussion as to what was actually fixed via the patch?

Anybody noticing any little subtle changes that weren't mentioned?

ex:

CPU not replacing positional players in spring traning games
Face swaps that occur when making defensive substitutions

I haven't seen that one, actually.

What I have seen before is sometimes player information won't pop up on the scoreboard when at-bat. I don't know what causes this or whether they addressed it or not.

And although they fixed the wind direction arrow on the pause screen in the past patch, it starts off pointing to CF when you first enter the pause screen. I wonder if they found a way to load that information a little faster.

[Bullit]

Re: MLB The Show 19 Patch 1.06 Available Later This Morning, Patch Notes

Anyone played a Spring Training game to see if the CPU subs out position players?


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Playing a game now, I will update when I have an answer.

No subbing has occurred except for Pitchers

[countryboy]

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No subbing has occurred except for Pitchers

Well that's a bummer.

Oh well...I'll just continue to move the controller over and sub out the CPU players.

Thanks for checking!

[countryboy]

Re: MLB The Show 19 Patch 1.06 Available Later This Morning, Patch Notes

Quick question for anyone willing to check

Is the face swapping/skintone issue happening still? Sometimes when you make a defensive sub, the incoming player will have his body/skintone, but will have the head/face/skintone of the player he's replacing.

Picture example below:

[sacbillsfan]

Re: MLB The Show 19 Patch 1.06 Available Later This Morning, Patch Notes

Has anyone simmed a season in franchise to see if there are still a ridiculous amount of stolen base attempts? When testing for rosters I've simmed 10 seasons and the league averages 4400 SB attempts which is about 2000 too many.

[Therebelyell626]

Re: MLB The Show 19 Patch 1.06 Available Later This Morning, Patch Notes

Not really sure how you think the game plays flawless because if you watch with balls are in towards third base right field Outfield all these players reaction times are. Acting good and they are causing the players to have je steps going for the Ball Hog so the ball doesn't go through MLB The Show these Third Base first base left field and right field issues

Huh? 10 char

[OldHossRadbourn]

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Until they fix the budget and trade logic issues..none of these patches matter.

[Vmascarello]

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Not a technological genius by any stretch but I wonder how much of the frame rate issues are due to the various TVs being used to play the game.

I say this because I have have seen zero frame rate issues. And in the past it was a problems. Not necessarily the last couple years, but before that I always had a lot of frame drops.

I’m not patronizing people having issues because it sucks, I’d be frustrated too. But wondering why there’s such a wide variance of feedback. From people saying it’s almost unplayable to people saying it’s silky smooth.

[KnightTemplar]

Re: MLB The Show 19 Patch 1.06 Available Later This Morning, Patch Notes

I never said it's unplayable. I wouldn't have ever even created a thread about it, but I surely will contribute to that thread. I'm not just in that thread over and over saying "framerate sucks, framerate sucks." I'm in that thread trying to resolve the problem by pointing out where there are issues and where there are not.

Did you see the two YouTube videos? You don't see anything at the Astros park? I know this is asking to be picky just to show the differences, but go to 0.25x speed on YouTube and see the difference at MMP versus the ST ballpark. The several frame duplicates are what's bothering people. For those who are sensitive to it, it's a big issue. Not unplayable, but still glaring. Keep that in mind.



Minor league parks don't have framerate issues. There's probably not enough to render on screen while hitting to make it as such. Just as you said: "Smooth as silk."

Many of the major league ballparks are like that, as well. Some of them have issues. I'd like to point out which ones they are when I play in each one (hopefully time of day isn't something that affects this, otherwise it'll be a long project). Maybe doing that will help in the long run when it comes to them resolving this and delivering out a patch that addresses it.

Didn't mean to infer that you said it was unplayable, (lost in internet translation and context ). Just looking at what others have said. But for someone to say we all have that issue...I dunno. I know many cannot see the frame rate issues, just as I'm sure some exaggerate (unplayable). Anyway, beat a dead horse. Game plays smooth for me, regardless of some doubting it. Glad it does too.

[Blzer]

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Not a technological genius by any stretch but I wonder how much of the frame rate issues are due to the various TVs being used to play the game.

I say this because I have have seen zero frame rate issues. And in the past it was a problems. Not necessarily the last couple years, but before that I always had a lot of frame drops.

I’m not patronizing people having issues because it sucks, I’d be frustrated too. But wondering why there’s such a wide variance of feedback. From people saying it’s almost unplayable to people saying it’s silky smooth.

Outside of refresh rate you're running your TV in, all televisions will be equal with regard to this (LCD's may introduce more motion blur as well, but this is as much a duplicating frames issue as it is an actual framerate concern).

Anyway, countryboy is right. Framerate discussion should be redirected to the other thread. This is about what was patched/attempted to be patched in 1.06.