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  • Houston
    MVP
    • May 2003
    • 4730

    #271
    Re: MLB The Show 20: Confirmation That Real Minor Leaguers are Coming?

    Ok guys I loaded up my 19 roster to check a few of these players and I half to say the findings are pretty interesting.

    This is a game changer for any roster editor. In the past it would take forever to do a full set roster with 90 players per team and of course fill spots in free agents with other prospects etc.

    Keep in mind usually the MLB always had real players and AAA there were about 15 real players in AAA give or take over team. The rest we had to create from scratch or export from previous years game, but still can be very time consuming.

    This sheds a ton of time off when we can gets roster out. I still think there will be a few generic players here and there. Some will not always agree with stances, motions, ratings or equipment given by SDS so there is still a little work to be done, but this is a huge game changer and tons of time saved.

    I myself usually grab a roster update SDS roster or the default as my base and the very first thing I always started with was importing mg FAKE PITCHER and FAKE BATTER players over all the generic fake players in the past. Not having to do all 30 teams now is huge time saved.PS_Messages_20200211_114632.jpegPS_Messages_20200211_114642.jpegPS_Messages_20200211_114648.jpegPS_Messages_20200211_114652.jpeg
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    • Houston
      MVP
      • May 2003
      • 4730

      #272
      Re: MLB The Show 20: Confirmation That Real Minor Leaguers are Coming?

      Yes, I did noticed some minor players on this list do in fact have a scan face while others are the editable/created.
      Originally posted by fnz21
      It looks like we'll have a mixture of real faces and editable CAP faces, based on some of the screenshots. Hopefully this saves some time for the wonderful group on the these forums that work on there.

      If things like stances, equipment, pitch arsenal don't need to be accurate for you to start your franchise, it's nice that these things look to be in.
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      • Houston
        MVP
        • May 2003
        • 4730

        #273
        Re: MLB The Show 20: Confirmation That Real Minor Leaguers are Coming?

        Can anyone see the photos posted? I myself see the gray broken looking image until I go under web view from my phone.
        Originally posted by Therebelyell626
        Houston, for some reason the photos aren’t displaying on my phone. Could you possibly list the players that these photos are highlighting?
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        • Houston
          MVP
          • May 2003
          • 4730

          #274
          Re: MLB The Show 20: Confirmation That Real Minor Leaguers are Coming?

          Here is my 2019 Alex Faedo.

          1st pic is from the 2020 Rtts end of game photo.Screenshot_20200211-110450_YouTube.jpegPS_Messages_20200211_121436.jpegPS_Messages_20200211_121440.jpeg
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          • Therebelyell626
            MVP
            • Mar 2018
            • 2892

            #275
            Re: MLB The Show 20: Confirmation That Real Minor Leaguers are Coming?

            Originally posted by Houston
            Can anyone see the photos posted? I myself see the gray broken looking image until I go under web view from my phone.
            Yeah I only have access to this site from my phone while at work. The photos are just blank boxes for me. Would be nice to know who the players are that you uncovered

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            • Therebelyell626
              MVP
              • Mar 2018
              • 2892

              #276
              Re: MLB The Show 20: Confirmation That Real Minor Leaguers are Coming?

              Originally posted by Houston
              Ok guys I loaded up my 19 roster to check a few of these players and I half to say the findings are pretty interesting.

              This is a game changer for any roster editor. In the past it would take forever to do a full set roster with 90 players per team and of course fill spots in free agents with other prospects etc.

              Keep in mind usually the MLB always had real players and AAA there were about 15 real players in AAA give or take over team. The rest we had to create from scratch or export from previous years game, but still can be very time consuming.

              This sheds a ton of time off when we can gets roster out. I still think there will be a few generic players here and there. Some will not always agree with stances, motions, ratings or equipment given by SDS so there is still a little work to be done, but this is a huge game changer and tons of time saved.

              I myself usually grab a roster update SDS roster or the default as my base and the very first thing I always started with was importing mg FAKE PITCHER and FAKE BATTER players over all the generic fake players in the past. Not having to do all 30 teams now is huge time saved.[ATTACH]175260[/ATTACH][ATTACH]175261[/ATTACH][ATTACH]175262[/ATTACH][ATTACH]175263[/ATTACH]
              Yes a definite game changer. I am not a creator but having real prospects in, and the fact that this will make things easier for roster creators in the long run (I use ridins), makes this a day one purchase for me. I want to show my support to SDS because his is a huge step in the right direction

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              • Jerze2387
                Rookie
                • Mar 2019
                • 28

                #277
                Re: MLB The Show 20: Confirmation That Real Minor Leaguers are Coming?

                So now I’m curious about a couple things..

                First there still being some generic names, are they actually going to be FULL minors or partial minors?

                And if they stick with just AAA, AA, and A teams, are they going to mix in the top prospects from the lower levels, kind of how OSFM did?

                And thirdly, will they be updating the minors rosters throughout the season or just the MLB roster?

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                • Therebelyell626
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 2892

                  #278
                  Re: MLB The Show 20: Confirmation That Real Minor Leaguers are Coming?

                  Originally posted by Jerze2387
                  So now I’m curious about a couple things..

                  First there still being some generic names, are they actually going to be FULL minors or partial minors?

                  And if they stick with just AAA, AA, and A teams, are they going to mix in the top prospects from the lower levels, kind of how OSFM did?

                  And thirdly, will they be updating the minors rosters throughout the season or just the MLB roster?
                  If I had to guess I would say it is probably just triple A and double A. I would be surprised if actual A ball or below (rookie ball, Dominican league) would be in, although it would be great. I also don’t believe international prospects such as jasson Dominguez will be in, since we have never been able to create a player under 18 years old before.

                  I also think that there will be some omissions in triple A and Double A if the deal was based on the players signing a waiver as opposed to an actual licensing deal. This is fine because Ridin and others will just fill in the blanks anyway

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                  • Caulfield
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 10986

                    #279
                    Re: MLB The Show 20: Confirmation That Real Minor Leaguers are Coming?

                    Originally posted by Jerze2387
                    So now I’m curious about a couple things..

                    First there still being some generic names, are they actually going to be FULL minors or partial minors?


                    And if they stick with just AAA, AA, and A teams, are they going to mix in the top prospects from the lower levels, kind of how OSFM did?


                    And thirdly, will they be updating the minors rosters throughout the season or just the MLB roster?
                    my guess is even if they split Single A into high & lo A (I personally dont think they will, but hope I'm wrong) this wont be a complete minor league, no short-season A level, no rookie league & no foreign rookie league. I think when SDS used the phrase ''full minors'' it was mostly a nod to OSFM and Operation Sports terminology ''Full Minors''. probably would have been less confusing if all those years ago we had been a little more accurate with our description and OSFM had been called OSRM (Operation Sports Real Minors).
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                    • CBoller1331
                      It Appears I Blue Myself
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 3082

                      #280
                      Re: MLB The Show 20: Confirmation That Real Minor Leaguers are Coming?

                      Originally posted by Houston
                      Ok guys I loaded up my 19 roster to check a few of these players and I half to say the findings are pretty interesting.

                      This is a game changer for any roster editor. In the past it would take forever to do a full set roster with 90 players per team and of course fill spots in free agents with other prospects etc.

                      Keep in mind usually the MLB always had real players and AAA there were about 15 real players in AAA give or take over team. The rest we had to create from scratch or export from previous years game, but still can be very time consuming.

                      This sheds a ton of time off when we can gets roster out. I still think there will be a few generic players here and there. Some will not always agree with stances, motions, ratings or equipment given by SDS so there is still a little work to be done, but this is a huge game changer and tons of time saved.

                      I myself usually grab a roster update SDS roster or the default as my base and the very first thing I always started with was importing mg FAKE PITCHER and FAKE BATTER players over all the generic fake players in the past. Not having to do all 30 teams now is huge time saved.
                      Originally posted by Houston
                      Here is my 2019 Alex Faedo.

                      1st pic is from the 2020 Rtts end of game photo.
                      I'm not sure what you mean by "findings"? What does this have to do with the 2019 version....are you suggesting they are using created players from the vault for the "full-minors roster"?
                      Last edited by CBoller1331; 02-11-2020, 02:10 PM.
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                      • TripleCrown
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 1240

                        #281
                        Re: MLB The Show 20: Confirmation That Real Minor Leaguers are Coming?

                        Originally posted by Caulfield
                        my guess is even if they split Single A into high & lo A (I personally dont think they will, but hope I'm wrong) this wont be a complete minor league, no short-season A level, no rookie league & no foreign rookie league. I think when SDS used the phrase ''full minors'' it was mostly a nod to OSFM and Operation Sports terminology ''Full Minors''. probably would have been less confusing if all those years ago we had been a little more accurate with our description and OSFM had been called OSRM (Operation Sports Real Minors).

                        I think you're spot on !


                        I'm expecting an untouched 90 players roster. Don't think they wanted to modify all the code & logic involved in expanding roster to a full 3rd minor level. Franchise is sub-topic of a RTTS Twitch. For Franchise, I'm afraid it will be the new custom teams + real names/faces for minors.



                        Those 2 new features are welcomed and neat additions for sure but my expectations stop there. Hope I'm wrong !!

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                        • ninertravel
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 4833

                          #282
                          Re: MLB The Show 20: Confirmation That Real Minor Leaguers are Coming?

                          Hopefully this year it means we will have a thread of 'spot the fake players names to replace' instead of a whole list of 'missing players thread'

                          We will just have to see but imagine how much work would be cut out. we still have to get the roster 100% right there unless a import player into franchise option is there.

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                          • Houston
                            MVP
                            • May 2003
                            • 4730

                            #283
                            Re: MLB The Show 20: Confirmation That Real Minor Leaguers are Coming?

                            Full Minors = same as before 25 AAA, 25 AA , 15 A.

                            All were getting is a SDS version of full minors with 95% real minor league players names, likeness etc...(Which im very excited for this. This alone is very well worth it, as said earlier a game changer and if this is all we were to get and not a full 25 A ball I'm ok with it, by having these minor league players already on the game with some tweaks I'm sure saves months and months of work for us)

                            * What normally would take someone anywhere from 3 months to 6 months of editing rosters can now be done in 30 days. It also cuts down on all that exporting and importing many of us had to do for years.

                            Nothing more....Nothing less...

                            They would half to change a lot of things and there just not doing that so don't over think this.

                            Example as we all been asking for more slider options or add more attributes but in order to do that would change to many things from all the previous show games until now and would change how carry over franchise would work.

                            Them rewriting that entire code and the issues it would cause by adding more attributes , features, slider options etc none of the previous games have had would cause more headaches than its worth and knowing there track record I just don't see them overhauling minors to that degree yet.
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                            • tabarnes19_SDS
                              Game Designer
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 3084

                              #284
                              Re: MLB The Show 20: Confirmation That Real Minor Leaguers are Coming?

                              Originally posted by Houston
                              Full Minors = same as before 25 AAA, 25 AA , 15 A.

                              All were getting is a SDS version of full minors with 95% real minor league players names, likeness etc...(Which im very excited for this. This alone is very well worth it, as said earlier a game changer and if this is all we were to get and not a full 25 A ball I'm ok with it, by having these minor league players already on the game with some tweaks I'm sure saves months and months of work for us)

                              Nothing more....Nothing less...

                              They would half to change a lot of things and there just not doing that so don't over think this.

                              Example as we all been asking for more slider options or add more attributes but in order to do that would change to many things from all the previous show games until now and would change how carry over franchise would work.

                              Them rewriting that entire code and the issues it would cause by adding more attributes , features, slider options etc none of the previous games have had would cause more headaches than its worth and knowing there track record I just don't see them overhauling minors to that degree yet.
                              Hope not. 26 man rosters this year.

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                              • ShowTyme15
                                LADetermined
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 11853

                                #285
                                Re: MLB The Show 20: Confirmation That Real Minor Leaguers are Coming?

                                Originally posted by tabarnes19
                                Hope not. 26 man rosters this year.

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                                I have a feeling it will be

                                MLB=26
                                AAA=26
                                AA=26
                                A=12

                                That is my guess.

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