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  • whit3142
    Rookie
    • Mar 2009
    • 15

    #136
    Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by jkra0512
    Both don't have a whole lot of value due to their contracts.

    Gordon comes to 9.2 WAR value, but he's owed $13.8M with a club option for $14M in 2021. This knocks him into negative territory (-4.6). He's age 31 and his best asset (his legs) are only going to get worse from here on out coupled with his dwindling on-base numbers.

    Seager comes to a 19.1 WAR value, but he's owed $38M over the next two years (club option for $15M in his age-34 season in 2022). He carries basically no value (0.2 value). You might find a 3B needy team at the deadline and unload him because of his pop from the left side and average defense.

    You'll most likely need to attach a prospect to get any sort of value, but that kind of defeats the purpose of a rebuild. What position(s) are you looking for?
    Looking for Starting pitching or a future corner bat. Not sure anything is serviceable. If not some bullpen help would suffice.

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    • boxers
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      • Jul 2004
      • 625

      #137
      Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

      Any thoughts on acquiring Clint Frazier as the Jays? I’m open to trading Giles and prospects but I recall Cashman wanting a starter with term (other than Borucki, I don’t really have that). As in real life, he’s getting no ABs in my franchise mode.

      Based on the trade simulator, this trade comes in even and gives Yankees prospect depth and solid backup catcher but no immediate help:

      Yankees get:
      Adam Kloffenstein
      Dasan Brown
      Reese McGuire

      Jays get:

      Clint Frazier
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      • GruffyMcGuiness
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        • Mar 2012
        • 1354

        #138
        Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

        Man, I’m really bummed. I’m doing a RTTS with the Braves who just traded Mike Soroka and Christian Pache (Braves #1 prospect) for Kenta Maeda in 2021. Maeda is 85 overall, but Soroka was 86 at the start of the season and Pache is 78... now Adam Duvall at 74 overall is starting in the OF. I’m either gonna have to start doing multiple saves or turn trades off.

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        • SamC24167
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          • May 2019
          • 530

          #139
          Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by bryanm1982
          I would feel that Carlson would have to be included to get Arenado in real life. Or do you think I can pull that off while keeping Carlson?
          i feel like Carlson would be Kept out of the trade as long as its Gorman and Libertore and hell maybe even a dakota hudson or ryan hesley

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          • kenp86
            MVP
            • May 2008
            • 2979

            #140
            Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by SamC24167
            i feel like Carlson would be Kept out of the trade as long as its Gorman and Libertore and hell maybe even a dakota hudson or ryan hesley
            which is why the trade died IRL. Personally, I think the trade should be Carlson, Gorman, Liberatore and Carpenter(Money reasons) for Arenado. Hes stated St.Louis is one of his favorite places to play and has a great deal of respect for the organization which leads me to believe he wouldnt opt out
            Last edited by kenp86; 03-30-2020, 02:32 PM.
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            • SamC24167
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              • May 2019
              • 530

              #141
              Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by kenp86
              which is why the trade died IRL. Personally, I think the trade should be Carlson, Gorman, Liberatore and Carpenter(Money reasons) for Arenado. Hes stated St.Louis is one of his favorite places to play and has a great deal of respect for the organization which leads me to believe he wouldnt opt out

              i believe you i just dont think it would need to take Carlson along with Gorman and Libertore.. The Rockies have a pretty good young outfield and have prospects so i think if they would take Gorman Libertore Carpenter and say Hudson the deal would go through and i dont believe Arenado would opt out either.

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              • BigOscar
                MVP
                • May 2016
                • 2971

                #142
                Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

                Yeah, no way does Arenado get Gorman, Liberatore AND Carlson, even if they pay cash by taking on Carpenter. Arenado is very, very valuable, but he is also very highly paid so his surplus value isn't astronomically high. Gorman, Liberatore and Carpenter sounds about fair, but Carlson is worth more than Arenado on his own.

                Baseballtradevalues has Arenado at about $30m surplus, Carlson is closer to $65m. Liberatore, Gorman and Carpenters negative come out at about the same $30m that Arenado is I think

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                • jls2406
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                  • Jul 2015
                  • 11

                  #143
                  Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

                  I just finished my first season with the Reds and am looking to trade away Senzel. Galvis had a solid year at the plate and I really like his glove at SS, so I extended his contract and it was hard finding at bats for Senzel in a crowded OF. With India coming on strong in the minors I feel like it is a good time to make a move. I know he still has some good value, but I may need some help figuring what he is truly worth.

                  2020 stats : 350 AB, .262 BA, 13 HR, 36 RBI, 18 SB, 23 2B, .330 OBP, .458 SLG, .773 OPS, 1.2 WAR

                  I am going to let Bauer walk, as he only had an average season for me and wants a good deal of money. That being said, I would like to land a solid SP in the Senzel deal if possible.

                  I have considered a deal involving Manaea with the A's, Taillon with the Pirates (division rival, I know). Possibly even Clevinger from the Indians, as they had a down year and did not make the playoffs. I know it would take quite a bit to land him. I am open to just about anything that can help replace Bauer.

                  Senzel is just a tough one to crack. Trade simulator has him at a value of 63.8, but that was for the start of the 2020 season, so that has obviously changed.
                  Last edited by jls2406; 03-30-2020, 09:56 PM.

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                  • jkra0512
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 2277

                    #144
                    Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by joejoe0783
                    Hi everybody! Hope everyone is staying safe & healthy! I was looking at some trade ideas for my Brewers franchise on Baseball Trade Values. I was looking at trading Hader to the Yankees or to the Red Sox.
                    Yankees get Hader & the Brewers get Andujar, Frazier, D. Garcia & Happ or
                    Red Sox get Hader & the Brewers get Chavis, Dalbec & Mata or the Red Sox get Hader & Ray & the Brewers get Benintendi & Chavis. I don't know if these trades would happen IRL, but for right now, I'm just looking for what's fair. Thanks!!

                    Also thought of another trade with Lutz & Suter going on to the Padres & the Brewers get Mejia & Profar
                    From the Yankees perspective, while Hader is an otherworldly RP, this is an overpay for a volatile position while simultaneously weakening their depth.

                    Frazier is on the cusp of being in The Show permanently with Gardner going year-to-year contract-wise, the fragileness of Judge and Stanton, Hicks is coming back from TJ surgery, and who knows if Tauchman can replicate his 2019 season. The Yankees OF has lots of question marks regarding their health right now. If Hicks, Judge, and Stanton were all healthy, I'd entertain moving Frazier, but probably not for a RP.

                    Andujar, I'm not sold on Gio Urshela being the good two-way player he was last year. Therefore, I want Andujar as an insurance policy. The kid can hit and was surprisingly decent in the limited time in the OF in spring training this year.

                    Garcia, being a top 50-100 prospect depending on the publication, I don't want to give him up in a deal for a RP, regardless of how good they are unless I need to fill a need. The bullpen is not an area of need for the Yankees.

                    Happ, in a perfect world he'd be the odd man out. However, IRL, with Severino and Paxton injured and German serving the remainder of his suspension, he's a valuable innings-eater at the back of the rotation. I can't see the Yankees parting with him right now unless some team vastly overpaid.

                    Overall, if I were the Yankees, I would decline this trade. In a perfect world, I might entertain it, but this chips away at their depth while bolstering a portion of their roster which is already Top-3 in baseball — their bullpen.
                    Last edited by jkra0512; 03-31-2020, 07:55 AM. Reason: grammar

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                    • BlueJays09
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 2553

                      #145
                      Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by MrSerendipity
                      Pederson for Giles/Kay from TOR?.
                      Is this Pederson for either Giles OR Kay or Giles + Kay?

                      Thanks!


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                      Last edited by BlueJays09; 03-31-2020, 04:58 PM.

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                      • bryanm1982
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                        • Nov 2016
                        • 3794

                        #146
                        Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

                        Would this trade make sense for both teams? I am the Braves and I want a front line starter to go with Soroka. It will make the team better earlier I think.

                        Braves trade
                        Dansby Swanson
                        Max Fried
                        Drew Waters

                        Indians trade
                        Francisco Lindor
                        Mike Clevinger
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                        • GR5Noles
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                          • Aug 2010
                          • 1255

                          #147
                          Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by bryanm1982
                          Would this trade make sense for both teams? I am the Braves and I want a front line starter to go with Soroka. It will make the team better earlier I think.

                          Braves trade
                          Dansby Swanson
                          Max Fried
                          Drew Waters

                          Indians trade
                          Francisco Lindor
                          Mike Clevinger
                          Max Fried isn't far off from front line starter material tbh. And I think the Indians would want far more to replace the face of their franchise and their ace. Probably need to throw Ian Anderson in that deal as well to even have the Indians consider that

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                          • bryanm1982
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2016
                            • 3794

                            #148
                            Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by GR5Noles
                            Max Fried isn't far off from front line starter material tbh. And I think the Indians would want far more to replace the face of their franchise and their ace. Probably need to throw Ian Anderson in that deal as well to even have the Indians consider that
                            Yeah and that might be realistically too much for the Braves to give up. Since both of those players are getting expensive in arbitration. And Lindor would be a free agent after 2021.
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                            • cubsgocontinental23
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                              • Apr 2015
                              • 145

                              #149
                              Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

                              Hi All,

                              Every year I do a 30 team control and do a full trade deadline by myself. I hate the unrealistic computer trades, I love the storylines and investment that this creates for myself. I've decided this year that I would like to get some feedback on some trades that I am considering making in my Orioles franchise, as I have just reached the ASB.

                              This post is examining one trade in particular, I am considering moving Trevor Bauer to the Braves. Bauer has stated many times that he believes that he will sign a one-year deal each year for the rest of his career. Cincinnati, having a record of 42-52, is looking to get something in return as a cost from the deal they made last year. The Braves are 59-36 and 4.0 GB of the Nationals. The Nationals pitching staff has been incredible, their top 3 starters have sub 2 ERA's. The Braves staff has been average, but to compete in this division, they might need a little help. Here is the proposed trade:

                              Braves get: Trevor Bauer (87 OVR, High B POT, MLB - 108.1 IP, 3.2 WAR, 3.74 ERA, 1.38 WHIP, 2.57 FIP, 8.89 K/9, 3.07 BB/9, 0.33 HR/9)

                              Reds get: Bryce Ball (64 OVR, Low B POT, AAA - .319/.395/.389, 21 G, 72 AB, 1 HR, 6 RBI's), Kyle Wright (66 OVR, High B POT, AAA - 79.1 IP, 4.08 ERA, 1.69 WHIP, 67 K, 49 BB, 8 HR), Jasseel De La Cruz (58 OVR, High C POT, AA - 71.0 IP, 3.17 ERA, 1.62 WHIP, 78 K, 39 BB, 5 HR)

                              The advanced statistics tell way more of a story for Trevor than his ERA and WHIP suggest. He is pitching quite well, however, the market for a rental SP is awful right now. I believe with Kyle Wright's struggles this year, they would be willing to give him up for a nice change of scenery type deal.

                              Let me know what you guys think! More to come soon.
                              Last edited by cubsgocontinental23; 03-31-2020, 04:47 PM.

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                              • GR5Noles
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                                • Aug 2010
                                • 1255

                                #150
                                Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by cubsgocontinental23
                                Hi All,

                                Every year I do a 30 team control and do a full trade deadline by myself. I hate the unrealistic computer trades, I love the storylines and investment that this creates for myself. I've decided this year that I would like to get some feedback on some trades that I am considering making in my Orioles franchise, as I have just reached the ASB.

                                This post is examining one trade in particular, I am considering moving Trevor Bauer to the Braves. Bauer has stated many times that he believes that he will sign a one-year deal each year for the rest of his career. Cincinnati, having a record of 42-52, is looking to get something in return as a cost from the deal they made last year. The Braves are 59-36 and 4.0 GB of the Nationals. The Nationals pitching staff has been incredible, their top 3 starters have sub 2 ERA's. The Braves staff has been average, but to compete in this division, they might need a little help. Here is the proposed trade:

                                Braves get: Trevor Bauer (87 OVR, High B POT, MLB - 108.1 IP, 3.2 WAR, 3.74 ERA, 1.38 WHIP, 2.57 FIP, 8.89 K/9, 3.07 BB/9, 0.33 HR/9)

                                Reds get: Bryce Ball (64 OVR, Low B POT, AAA - .319/.395/.389, 21 G, 72 AB, 1 HR, 6 RBI's), Kyle Wright (66 OVR, High B POT, AAA - 79.1 IP, 4.08 ERA, 1.69 WHIP, 67 K, 49 BB, 8 HR), Jasseel De La Cruz (58 OVR, High C POT, AA - 71.0 IP, 3.17 ERA, 1.62 WHIP, 78 K, 39 BB, 5 HR)

                                The advanced statistics tell way more of a story for Trevor than his ERA and WHIP suggest. He is pitching quite well, however, the market for a rental SP is awful right now. I believe with Kyle Wright's struggles this year, they would be willing to give him up for a nice change of scenery type deal.

                                Let me know what you guys think! More to come soon.
                                It's an interesting move. I don't know if the Braves give up those 3 guys for a half-season of Bauer. Wright is a top 50 prospect and #4 for the Braves, while De La Cruz is a fringe top 10 guy. Then Bryce Ball is going to blow up here in the next few years...if he plays like he did last year, Ball will be a top 100 prospect without question and the Braves are extremely high on him as is. So I think maybe Wright and De La Cruz get it done, or at least Wright, De La Cruz, and flyer.
                                Last edited by GR5Noles; 03-31-2020, 07:49 PM.

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