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  • jdmsi7
    Rookie
    • Jun 2009
    • 158

    #151
    Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

    Playing as Boston, who would some realistic first base targets be as an upgrade over Moreland?


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    • Scott
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      • Jul 2002
      • 20032

      #152
      Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by jdmsi7
      Playing as Boston, who would some realistic first base targets be as an upgrade over Moreland?


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      • cubsgocontinental23
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        • Apr 2015
        • 145

        #153
        Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by GR5Noles
        It's an interesting move. I don't know if the Braves give up those 3 guys for a half-season of Bauer. Wright is a top 50 prospect and #4 for the Braves, while De La Cruz is a fringe top 10 guy. Then Bryce Ball is going to blow up here in the next few years...if he plays like he did last year, Ball will be a top 100 prospect without question and the Braves are extremely high on him as is. So I think maybe Wright and De La Cruz get it done, or at least Wright, De La Cruz, and flyer.
        I do believe that the Braves would not be willing to give up all 3 of those guys for a half-season of Bauer. I factored that in and came up with a new proposal. Due to Bauer pitching extremely well, as well as having a seller's market this deadline, I believe that both Wright and Ball should be included in the deal. I took De La Cruz out. I would love to hear your thoughts on my new proposal.

        Braves get: Trevor Bauer, Pedro Strop (MLB - 23.2 IP, 8.37 ERA, 1.77 WHIP, 6.17 FIP, 8.37 K/9, 6.85 BB/9, 1.90 HR/9)
        Reds get: Kyle Wright, Bryce Ball, Nolan Kingham (23 YO, 63 OVR, Low C POT, AA - 79.1 IP, 5.45 ERA, 1.32 WHIP, 56 K, 30 BB)

        Strop has been hurt all year and pitching in the minors for a bit could get him right on track to help out this Braves bullpen later in the season. Kingham is a flyer for the Braves to even this deal out.

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        • franch1se
          All Star
          • Apr 2004
          • 9059

          #154
          Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by jdmsi7
          Playing as Boston, who would some realistic first base targets be as an upgrade over Moreland?


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          Take Hosmer or Myers from us please lol

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          • kinsmen7
            MVP
            • Mar 2016
            • 1661

            #155
            Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by cubsgocontinental23
            I do believe that the Braves would not be willing to give up all 3 of those guys for a half-season of Bauer. I factored that in and came up with a new proposal. Due to Bauer pitching extremely well, as well as having a seller's market this deadline, I believe that both Wright and Ball should be included in the deal. I took De La Cruz out. I would love to hear your thoughts on my new proposal.

            Braves get: Trevor Bauer, Pedro Strop (MLB - 23.2 IP, 8.37 ERA, 1.77 WHIP, 6.17 FIP, 8.37 K/9, 6.85 BB/9, 1.90 HR/9)
            Reds get: Kyle Wright, Bryce Ball, Nolan Kingham (23 YO, 63 OVR, Low C POT, AA - 79.1 IP, 5.45 ERA, 1.32 WHIP, 56 K, 30 BB)

            Strop has been hurt all year and pitching in the minors for a bit could get him right on track to help out this Braves bullpen later in the season. Kingham is a flyer for the Braves to even this deal out.
            Honestly, it kind of reminds me of the David Price to Toronto trade which, as a Jays fan, I'd do again in a heart beat.
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            • UNDERTAKER1215
              Pro
              • Oct 2011
              • 692

              #156
              Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by jdmsi7
              Playing as Boston, who would some realistic first base targets be as an upgrade over Moreland?


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              It depends on what you’re looking for. Honestly, unless you’re in a winning situation right now, you have Dalbec ready to go and Casas on his way up plus depending on how you use him as of right now, Chavis is capable.


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              • GR5Noles
                MVP
                • Aug 2010
                • 1255

                #157
                Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

                Saw this trade and it really piqued my interest. I wanted to see what other people thought:

                Braves Get: Trevor Story
                Rockies Get: William Contreras, Bryse Wilson, Braden Shewmake.

                This trade would have to leave to another trade to ship off Swanson, but what about the initial move for Story?

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                • GamecocksLaw17
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 1503

                  #158
                  Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by GR5Noles
                  Saw this trade and it really piqued my interest. I wanted to see what other people thought:

                  Braves Get: Trevor Story
                  Rockies Get: William Contreras, Bryse Wilson, Braden Shewmake.

                  This trade would have to leave to another trade to ship off Swanson, but what about the initial move for Story?
                  I don't believe there's a good enough headliner in the deal. Generally speaking, the best prospect in the deal should be equal to or greater than 50% of the value of the MLB guy. That's why the high end MLB guys require elite prospects in trade.

                  If Story is worth $60 million, then the leading prospect in the trade needs to carry at least $30 million. Most teams try to get Quality over Quantity.

                  On the Fangraphs list you offered up the #5, #6 & #9 Braves prospects for one of the elite young SS in MLB. I think to make it work you likely need to frame the trade more like Ian Anderson + Austin Jackson if you want to stay with a Catcher and Shewmake.

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                  • BigOscar
                    MVP
                    • May 2016
                    • 2971

                    #159
                    Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                    I don't believe there's a good enough headliner in the deal. Generally speaking, the best prospect in the deal should be equal to or greater than 50% of the value of the MLB guy. That's why the high end MLB guys require elite prospects in trade.

                    If Story is worth $60 million, then the leading prospect in the trade needs to carry at least $30 million. Most teams try to get Quality over Quantity.

                    On the Fangraphs list you offered up the #5, #6 & #9 Braves prospects for one of the elite young SS in MLB. I think to make it work you likely need to frame the trade more like Ian Anderson + Austin Jackson if you want to stay with a Catcher and Shewmake.
                    Yeah that trade was actually one of mine from baseballtradevalues and it was only like that as I had a specific idea in mind as to what I wanted in return (younger bats, MLB ready arms) and had other trades in mind (trying to get a lot of MLB ready 45/50 grade pitchers to throw at the wall and see what sticks at Coors).

                    In reality it wasn't really a trade designed to be realistic on it's own and without a larger plan behind it. As you say, a more glitzy headliner would be needed, preferably one closer to being ready

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                    • kinsmen7
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 1661

                      #160
                      Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

                      Trying to figure out a Grichuk trade. He doesn't fit with my long term plans, and his contract is very meh.

                      Surplus value: -$18 mil

                      I'm definitely willing to make an exchange of bad contracts, and I'd ideally get back a reliever who doesn't have as much term.

                      First thoughts were to the Mets for Familia (-$15.9), and I'd throw in someone like Patrick Murphy (so/so upside, $2.5 mil), but I'd be worried that the Mets wouldn't really want the extra outfield (though Brodie is kind of a weirdo).

                      Also, considered the Giants. They don't have many guys locked up, and have little to no offence. My thought was:

                      SF: Samardzija (-$11.9)
                      TOR: Grichuk (-18)+ Murphy (2.5)+Sean Reid Foley ($4.7)

                      =-$11.9

                      Any thoughts? Or are there any other teams that could be looking for an average OF with pop? Other teams that I'd think might be looking include:
                      -Mariners
                      -Cubs?
                      -Phillies
                      -Rangers
                      -Tigers
                      -Royals (Maybe Danny Duffy coming back?)
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                      • Scott
                        Your Go-to TV Expert
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 20032

                        #161
                        Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by kinsmen7
                        Trying to figure out a Grichuk trade. He doesn't fit with my long term plans, and his contract is very meh.

                        Surplus value: -$18 mil

                        I'm definitely willing to make an exchange of bad contracts, and I'd ideally get back a reliever who doesn't have as much term.

                        First thoughts were to the Mets for Familia (-$15.9), and I'd throw in someone like Patrick Murphy (so/so upside, $2.5 mil), but I'd be worried that the Mets wouldn't really want the extra outfield (though Brodie is kind of a weirdo).

                        Also, considered the Giants. They don't have many guys locked up, and have little to no offence. My thought was:

                        SF: Samardzija (-$11.9)
                        TOR: Grichuk (-18)+ Murphy (2.5)+Sean Reid Foley ($4.7)

                        =-$11.9

                        Any thoughts? Or are there any other teams that could be looking for an average OF with pop? Other teams that I'd think might be looking include:
                        -Mariners
                        -Cubs?
                        -Phillies
                        -Rangers
                        -Tigers
                        -Royals (Maybe Danny Duffy coming back?)
                        Rangers wouldn't be a match. They'll be content with Calhoun, Taveras (in the future) & Gallo in the outfield.
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                        • Mattchu12
                          Pro
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 648

                          #162
                          Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

                          Is there a Clevenger to Yankees trade that makes sense?

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                          • BigOscar
                            MVP
                            • May 2016
                            • 2971

                            #163
                            Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Mattchu12
                            Is there a Clevenger to Yankees trade that makes sense?
                            It's a tough one as if Cleveland are trading Clevinger it means they are going full rebuild, so the Yankees more valuable disposable assets (Frazier and Andujar) become pretty worthless to them. So it would mean giving up more of the Yankees super promising, incredibly young guys than they or you are probably comfortable with. The Yankees don't really have enough quality in the higher minors, you'd have to almost empty the farm, before it's really as valuable as it looks to be in a year or two. A shorter term option for a year or two, then a trade when those wunderkinds are more valuable seems a bit more doable imo.

                            You'd be looking at Dominguez, Garcia plus another top 5 prospect, which is an incredibly steep price.

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                            • GamecocksLaw17
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 1503

                              #164
                              Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Mattchu12
                              Is there a Clevenger to Yankees trade that makes sense?
                              If I am the Indians, I wouldn't let the Yankees have Clevenger without receiving Jasson Dominguez and Deivi Garcia both in return. Then you'd likely still need to add someone like Estevan Florial since his shine has dropped but the Indians need OF help.

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                              • dking30
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 151

                                #165
                                Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

                                Return for Kirby Yates?

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