MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

[Rocket32]

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Will it be for PS4 as well?

Almost definitely will be next gen only. Honestly, if you won’t be getting a PS5 in time for 21 you might as well just stick with 20 until you have a PS5 unless updated rosters and a fresh menu look is that important to you. Most if not all of the significant improvements to the game going forwards will be next gen only.

You’ll probably have some of the smaller changes on PS4, but it’ll be more like buying The Show 20.5 then The Show 21 that next gen players are getting. Next gen is the focus now.

[LastActionHero]

MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

Almost definitely will be next gen only. Honestly, if you won’t be getting a PS5 in time for 21 you might as well just stick with 20 until you have a PS5 unless updated rosters and a fresh menu look is that important to you. Most if not all of the significant improvements to the game going forwards will be next gen only.

You’ll probably have some of the smaller changes on PS4, but it’ll be more like buying The Show 20.5 then The Show 21 that next gen players are getting. Next gen is the focus now.

I disagree, gameplay again has been a big focus point this development cycle and all that applies to the ps4 version as well.

[405Cowboy]

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I didn't figure create a park would be in PS4 version. I'll gladly pick up 21 if more throwback uniforms are added otherwise I'll ride the storm out with 20 and wait a couple more years till the PS5 comes down in price.

[Red_Ted_is_back]

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Probably not, the developers have said before that it couldn't be done on this generation of consoles, so that is why they didn't make a stadium creator.

I’m gonna see your probably not and raise you a yes it will (if it is indeed coming). Despite them saying it, there is no way it was a hardware issue preventing it being done on PS4. It would simply have been opportunity cost vs benefit and it not having been part of the plan for the pre-PS5 cycle. They would have budgeted seven or so years ahead where the resources were being spent and stadium creator wouldn’t have made the cut back in 2013.

So if it is coming, there would still be a massive number of their player base who want the feature that will be stuck on PS4 through no fault of their own for the first three months of the game’s release (eg demand > supply, or loss of income since last year). It would not be well received by them if it were PS5 exclusive.


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[orioles0615]

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Almost definitely will be next gen only. Honestly, if you won’t be getting a PS5 in time for 21 you might as well just stick with 20 until you have a PS5 unless updated rosters and a fresh menu look is that important to you. Most if not all of the significant improvements to the game going forwards will be next gen only.

You’ll probably have some of the smaller changes on PS4, but it’ll be more like buying The Show 20.5 then The Show 21 that next gen players are getting. Next gen is the focus now.

This could bite then in the butt considering no one has a PS5

[The Kid 24]

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This could bite then in the butt considering no one has a PS5

Thats a bit of a stretch, theres plenty on here who have one, myself included.


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[Kenzojoe]

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If CAB is "Next Gen" only, that'll stink, but I'll understand why.
Either way, I don't think it's going to be as big as people think. Im thinking it's going to be a bare bones kind of editor with already implemented options. Like for example, you'll have the option of the taking one of the minor league parks and raising the fences, changing the distance to the fences, and moving the bullpen around from foul territory to behind one of the bleacher sections in the outfield. Change around the grass pattern from a diamond cut to a swirl cut, chose dirt or clay for the bases, circle or a square section around the batters box...stuff like that. Nothing to elaborate this year.

It'll be next year, MLB The Show 22 where that feature really starts to come to life.


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[baconbits11]

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Remember what they did when transitioning from PS3 to PS4? PS4 had some features that PS3 didn't have, I think it will be the same this time. But that didn't happen until MLB 16, so if they plan on keeping the PS4 version around a few more years, then it may not happen right away where features are different.

[LastActionHero]

MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

I think this console generation transition is not comparable to last time.

Considering the huge shortage of chips that effects the production of so many things including the manufacturing of the next gen consoles I think they will have to keep their focus a little more on the PS4 next year than they would’ve wanted.

Pure based on the PS4 install base under consumers, there just aren’t that many PS5 in homes yet and by the looks of it that’s not gonna ramp up anytime soon...

Soooo there’s more money to me made (sold copies and then DD transactions) on PS4.

[Keirik]

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There are over 5 million ps5 sold globally and 3 million Xbox series x with numbers growing constantly. No one is buying a current gen going fwd either for the most part.

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/447408/ps5-vs-xbox-series-xs-vs-switch-launch-sales-comparison-through-week-12/

If you think there aren’t enough units to justify a next gen only feature then you seriously are kidding yourself imo

[Gosens6]

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There are over 5 million ps5 sold globally and 3 million Xbox series x with numbers growing constantly. No one is buying a current gen going fwd either for the most part.

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/447408/ps5-vs-xbox-series-xs-vs-switch-launch-sales-comparison-through-week-12/

If you think there aren’t enough units to justify a next gen only feature then you seriously are kidding yourself imo

You’ll usually hear this statement from the folks who don’t have a next gen console. They want to believe that not many people have one because they couldn’t snag one


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[Keirik]

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You’ll usually hear this statement from the folks who don’t have a next gen console. They want to believe that not many people have one because they couldn’t snag one


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Probably and I can understand the frustration. It certainly was a pain in the *** to get one, but I have both thankfully so all is well in my world.

[LastActionHero]

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There are over 5 million ps5 sold globally and 3 million Xbox series x with numbers growing constantly. No one is buying a current gen going fwd either for the most part.

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/447408/ps5-vs-xbox-series-xs-vs-switch-launch-sales-comparison-through-week-12/

If you think there aren’t enough units to justify a next gen only feature then you seriously are kidding yourself imo

Yeah but if you look just at The Show sales it gets tricky. The Show sold around a million units the past couple of years with a ps4 install base of a little over 100 million so that’s 1%. Take 1% of 8 million next gen consoles and you only come to 80.000 units. Ok by the time the game out there will be a little bit more consoles sold but still.

Don’t get me wrong I hope we will get great (graphical) improvements for the next gen consoles this year but the ps4 version will still be the most important this year sales wise.

[orioles0615]

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Probably and I can understand the frustration. It certainly was a pain in the *** to get one, but I have both thankfully so all is well in my world.

Did you get it for retail value or did you pay over 1000 on eBay ?

[TheWarmWind]

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Ok, so I don't want people to freak out over this, because I still think this is fake, but it is possible that the PS5 and Xbox Series made it way easier to implement a custom stadium creator.

Keep in mind that I'm more of a hardware expert, and know very little about the software side of things.

The SSD on both systems could make creating this feature easier.

On the PS4, assets that the user assembled into a custom stadium would have to be rendered and pre-baked into a large file or else load times would be insane. Lighting would either be terrible or again would have to be rendered, which would take the PS4 hours, or maybe even days, and would probably still look terrible. This stuff was possible back in the olden days because things like light sources, shadows, and reflections didn't exist. They were all faked using textures, and they'll always looked tacked on or fake, no matter how high the resolution is.

Now, on the PS5/Series, the SSD is fast enough to not have to pre-bake assets. Instead custom assets could be loaded to a small save file that just contains coordinate data. Lighting, Shadows, and Reflections don't have to be pre-rendered because both systems are capable of Ray Tracing. All you need is a light source/sources identified and the material properties of each surface (which each custom asset would contain) and the Ray Tracing system takes care of the rest.

Now just because it can, doesn't mean it will, or even should. Just because the PS5/Series CAN ray trace doesn't mean they are any good at it. For those systems to do globally ray traced illumination, it would come at a severe framerate cost. I'm pretty sure the series S would explode. There is a reason why developers are pissed it exists.

Fun tangential anecdote: apparently working on lighting is a huge bottleneck for video game development. You may or may not care about ray tracing, but developers care a LOT. Usually, lighting, shadows, and reflections had to be faked, and meticulously hand done across an entire video game. With ray tracing, all you need to do is add it your light sources, make sure all of the material values in your surfaces are correct, and the ray tracing system takes care of the rest.

TL;DR: it is possible that the new generation of consoles allowed this feature to be made thanks to ray tracing and their SSDs, but I still think this "leak" is fake.

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