MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

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  • Archie56
    MVP
    • Feb 2009
    • 1556

    #106
    Re: MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

    Originally posted by orioles0615
    Did you get it for retail value or did you pay over 1000 on eBay ?
    I got both my Series X and PS5 at retail price through GameStop. Was able to preorder both of them.

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    • thescoop
      MVP
      • Jan 2006
      • 1288

      #107
      Re: MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

      Originally posted by Kenzojoe
      If CAB is "Next Gen" only, that'll stink, but I'll understand why.
      Either way, I don't think it's going to be as big as people think. Im thinking it's going to be a bare bones kind of editor with already implemented options. Like for example, you'll have the option of the taking one of the minor league parks and raising the fences, changing the distance to the fences, and moving the bullpen around from foul territory to behind one of the bleacher sections in the outfield. Change around the grass pattern from a diamond cut to a swirl cut, chose dirt or clay for the bases, circle or a square section around the batters box...stuff like that. Nothing to elaborate this year.

      It'll be next year, MLB The Show 22 where that feature really starts to come to life.


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      I definitely think the feature will be better in a year two or three. But I'm not sure they'll do a barebones on it either. You might end up being right but part of my reasoning is listening to their streams the past several years. They have said many times they didn't want to just put in a feature that was bare. That's been one of the reasons they've used against putting it in on the past streams.

      But we'll all find out when and if it is announced.
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      • knucklecutter
        Pro
        • Mar 2020
        • 608

        #108
        Re: MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

        Originally posted by TheWarmWind
        Ok, so I don't want people to freak out over this, because I still think this is fake, but it is possible that the PS5 and Xbox Series made it way easier to implement a custom stadium creator.

        Keep in mind that I'm more of a hardware expert, and know very little about the software side of things.

        The SSD on both systems could make creating this feature easier.

        On the PS4, assets that the user assembled into a custom stadium would have to be rendered and pre-baked into a large file or else load times would be insane. Lighting would either be terrible or again would have to be rendered, which would take the PS4 hours, or maybe even days, and would probably still look terrible. This stuff was possible back in the olden days because things like light sources, shadows, and reflections didn't exist. They were all faked using textures, and they'll always looked tacked on or fake, no matter how high the resolution is.

        Now, on the PS5/Series, the SSD is fast enough to not have to pre-bake assets. Instead custom assets could be loaded to a small save file that just contains coordinate data. Lighting, Shadows, and Reflections don't have to be pre-rendered because both systems are capable of Ray Tracing. All you need is a light source/sources identified and the material properties of each surface (which each custom asset would contain) and the Ray Tracing system takes care of the rest.

        Now just because it can, doesn't mean it will, or even should. Just because the PS5/Series CAN ray trace doesn't mean they are any good at it. For those systems to do globally ray traced illumination, it would come at a severe framerate cost. I'm pretty sure the series S would explode. There is a reason why developers are pissed it exists.

        Fun tangential anecdote: apparently working on lighting is a huge bottleneck for video game development. You may or may not care about ray tracing, but developers care a LOT. Usually, lighting, shadows, and reflections had to be faked, and meticulously hand done across an entire video game. With ray tracing, all you need to do is add it your light sources, make sure all of the material values in your surfaces are correct, and the ray tracing system takes care of the rest.

        TL;DR: it is possible that the new generation of consoles allowed this feature to be made thanks to ray tracing and their SSDs, but I still think this "leak" is fake.

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        Also keep in mind when you compare PC spec hardware to the original PS4 that the PS4 in 2013 was basically a bottom end PC that was already outdated when it first arrived and the new consoles are well above average / top end PC's component wise. There's a pretty big performance capability gap between any of the PS4's and the PS5. Technology has come a long way since then.
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        • Keirik
          MVP
          • Mar 2003
          • 3770

          #109
          Re: MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

          Originally posted by orioles0615
          Did you get it for retail value or did you pay over 1000 on eBay ?
          Retail on both. Xbox preordered on launch and the ps5 a month later from Walmart.
          Yankees, Manchester United, Chicago Bears, New York Rangers

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          • Keirik
            MVP
            • Mar 2003
            • 3770

            #110
            Re: MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

            Originally posted by LastActionHero
            Yeah but if you look just at The Show sales it gets tricky. The Show sold around a million units the past couple of years with a ps4 install base of a little over 100 million so that’s 1%. Take 1% of 8 million next gen consoles and you only come to 80.000 units. Ok by the time the game out there will be a little bit more consoles sold but still.

            Don’t get me wrong I hope we will get great (graphical) improvements for the next gen consoles this year but the ps4 version will still be the most important this year sales wise.
            Well, every other leap in console has outsold the older generation console by double if Wikipedia is correct. It’s not that the ps4 version won’t be important and it’s not whether ps5 will be a giant leap. It’s just whether this specific feature would be in both and I find it hardly unlikely due to generational constraints and devs knowing which versions typically outsell the other ones. Either way we will eventually find out.
            2006 MLB 06: The Show 940,000 (PS2), 350,00 (PSP)
            2007 MLB 07: The Show 930,000 (PS2), 280,000 (PS3), 280,000 (PSP)
            2008 MLB 08: The Show 420,000 (PS2), 700,000 (PS3), 330,000 (PSP)
            2009 MLB 09: The Show 330,000 (PS2), 720,000 (PS3), 270,000 (PSP)
            2010 MLB 10: The Show 410,000 (PS2), 730,000 (PS3), 210,000 (PSP)
            2011 MLB 11: The Show 130,000 (PS2), 590,000 (PS3), 180,000 (PSP)
            2012 MLB 12: The Show 930,000 (PS3), 200,000 (PSV)
            2013 MLB 13: The Show 840,000 (PS3), 150,000 (PSV)
            2014 MLB 14: The Show 430,000 (PS3), 730,000 (PS4), 120,000 (PSV)
            2015 MLB 15: The Show 400,000 (PS3), 1.01 million (PS4), 40,000 (PSV)
            2016 MLB The Show 16 380,000 (PS3), 960,000 (PS4)
            2017 MLB The Show 17 1.16 million
            2018 MLB The Show 18 1.06 million
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            • burjeffton
              Rookie
              • Feb 2013
              • 264

              #111
              Re: MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

              I'm hoping they pour resources into the new-gen. I know this here there's a lot of $ to be made catering to last-gen, but having both Xbox/PS platforms should help make up for that.

              There's enough new systems (especially when you combine both) and a severe lack of new-gen games. I feel like this bodes well for 21.
              HE'S GOT ONE FLAP DOWN!

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              • manny2012
                Rookie
                • Feb 2012
                • 275

                #112
                Re: MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

                SDS has never disappointed me yet, I'm sure next-gen will be awesome. I can't wait until the 16th of April.

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                • Jolly Roger
                  Prince of Plakata
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 871

                  #113
                  Re: MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

                  What sort of stadia would you guys make? I'd want one with 600' walls to all fields. Or perhaps no walls at all! I'd put trees in the outfield as well, just to make things interesting (there was once a cricket stadium in England with a tree in play).

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                  • TheWarmWind
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 2620

                    #114
                    Re: MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

                    Originally posted by Jolly Roger
                    What sort of stadia would you guys make? I'd want one with 600' walls to all fields. Or perhaps no walls at all! I'd put trees in the outfield as well, just to make things interesting (there was once a cricket stadium in England with a tree in play).
                    I'm afraid I'd be boring and just make various spring training facilities that matched or were near the dimensions of the home team's real stadium.

                    I will admit though, as much as I'm glad it's gone in real life for the sake of player safety, I do miss Tal's Hill. Unique stuff like that would intregue me.

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                    • Kenzojoe
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 264

                      #115
                      Re: MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

                      Originally posted by Jolly Roger
                      What sort of stadia would you guys make? I'd want one with 600' walls to all fields. Or perhaps no walls at all! I'd put trees in the outfield as well, just to make things interesting (there was once a cricket stadium in England with a tree in play).
                      Cookie cutter type stadiums like the Vet, Riverfront, etc etc.

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                      • legacyme3
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 572

                        #116
                        Re: MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

                        I would push the walls as far back as possible, and raise the walls to the highest point possible, and create an "Arena Baseball League" of sorts, where the only home runs are inside the parkers.
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                        • Grey_Osprey
                          Pro
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 753

                          #117
                          Re: MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

                          If it's a full fledge feature, which I doubt it is, I would like to try and create Ebbets Field, Old Comisky, Old Tiger Stadium, and if possible, I'd love to make some changes to some existing classic and minor league stadiums like dimensions, seating, adding upper decks, name, logo, advertising, etc.

                          That being said, I would be pleasantly surprised if the feature is anywhere that deep.



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                          • zello144
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 2183

                            #118
                            Re: MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

                            Originally posted by Jolly Roger
                            What sort of stadia would you guys make? I'd want one with 600' walls to all fields. Or perhaps no walls at all! I'd put trees in the outfield as well, just to make things interesting (there was once a cricket stadium in England with a tree in play).
                            Make some very pitcher friendly parks and then try the extremes and make some very hitter friendly parks. I'd probably also try to recreate RFK. I would try to build a team of sluggers in a pitcher friendly park and see how they do and try to field a team of strong pitching and some very bad offense in a hitter friendly park.

                            I don't play DD but I can see why custom stadiums would be a concern in DD guys would make crazy dimensions in DD and just hit bombs.

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                            • Caulfield
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 10986

                              #119
                              Re: MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

                              Originally posted by Jolly Roger
                              What sort of stadia would you guys make? I'd want one with 600' walls to all fields. Or perhaps no walls at all! I'd put trees in the outfield as well, just to make things interesting (there was once a cricket stadium in England with a tree in play).
                              take the Trop, blow the lid off that sucker. make it open-air.
                              put a dome on Wrigley.
                              make an almost exact replica of Fenway, sans the Green Monster & push the new 9 foot high Little Monster back 30 feet.
                              tear down Mount Davis in Oakland.
                              build a new Olympic Stadium for Washington.
                              take all the seats out of Miami, no ''stadium'', just a ballfield set against a South Beach ocean backdrop.
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                              • sydrogerdavid
                                MVP
                                • May 2009
                                • 3109

                                #120
                                Re: MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

                                Originally posted by Grey_Osprey
                                If it's a full fledge feature, which I doubt it is, I would like to try and create Ebbets Field, Old Comisky, Old Tiger Stadium, and if possible, I'd love to make some changes to some existing classic and minor league stadiums like dimensions, seating, adding upper decks, name, logo, advertising, etc.

                                That being said, I would be pleasantly surprised if the feature is anywhere that deep.



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                                Moving the light posts inside the wall and building the grandstand in RF at Forbes would be the very first thing I'd do.

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