MLB The Show Trade Discussion Thread

[Detroit Tigers]

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As far as realism I’m not sure this really makes sense with where the Tigers are right now. But if you’re not looking for realism go for it!

Wow no offense taken.

CPU did it for Boyd and Willi Castro. Signed Báez to a 7–year deal. I love the move and think it makes perfect sense. Cheers.

[Friar Fanatic]

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Wow no offense taken.

CPU did it for Boyd and Willi Castro. Signed Báez to a 7–year deal. I love the move and think it makes perfect sense. Cheers.

The Cubs got MAJORLY fleeced in that deal lol

[Mackrel829]

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Still looking to trade this package for the best reasonable/realistic deal that I can find:

SP Paul Blackburn - 71, 27, C
C Aramis Garcia - 72, 28, B
SS Ray Bolden - 49, 22, A //OR// SS Jeremy Eierman - 23, 69, A

I'm looking to bolster my outfield with a little more offense so looking at the following guys:

Jordan Luplow (Indians) - 75, 27, B
Mike Yastrzemski (Giants) - 84, 30, B
Avasail Garcia (Brewers) - 77, 29, C
Mitch Haniger (Mariners) - 75, 30, C
David Dahl (Rangers) - 76, 27, B

Jordan Luplow is still relatively young but the Indians have Franmil Reyes and a 69 OVR, A POT prospect behind them. Yastrzemski has the highest OVR by far but he's older.

The Giants are actually doing quite well so far and the Indians are killing it. The Rangers are the worst team in the league, and the Mariners and Brewers are both comfortably below .500.

[Friar Fanatic]

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Still looking to trade this package for the best reasonable/realistic deal that I can find:

SP Paul Blackburn - 71, 27, C
C Aramis Garcia - 72, 28, B
SS Ray Bolden - 49, 22, A //OR// SS Jeremy Eierman - 23, 69, A

I'm looking to bolster my outfield with a little more offense so looking at the following guys:

Jordan Luplow (Indians) - 75, 27, B
Mike Yastrzemski (Giants) - 84, 30, B
Avasail Garcia (Brewers) - 77, 29, C
Mitch Haniger (Mariners) - 75, 30, C
David Dahl (Rangers) - 76, 27, B

Jordan Luplow is still relatively young but the Indians have Franmil Reyes and a 69 OVR, A POT prospect behind them. Yastrzemski has the highest OVR by far but he's older.

The Giants are actually doing quite well so far and the Indians are killing it. The Rangers are the worst team in the league, and the Mariners and Brewers are both comfortably below .500.

If the Rangers are that bad, Gallo might be a good trade target. They just signed Dahl. You could also look at TOR and Teoscar Hernandez

[Mackrel829]

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If the Rangers are that bad, Gallo might be a good trade target. They just signed Dahl. You could also look at TOR and Teoscar Hernandez

These guys are definitely the type of player I'm after but I think they're too good for what I'm willing to give up. I've got some good, young talent that I'm looking to build around and only want to give up players on the periphery of my roster to get marginally better.

The Jays currently have Hernandez and Gurriel both on the trade block. What do you think it would take to get Hernandez? Doesn't have to be specific players but rough idea of OVRs and POTs.

Same question for Gallo but I'm guessing he'll be very expensive.

[Friar Fanatic]

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These guys are definitely the type of player I'm after but I think they're too good for what I'm willing to give up. I've got some good, young talent that I'm looking to build around and only want to give up players on the periphery of my roster to get marginally better.

The Jays currently have Hernandez and Gurriel both on the trade block. What do you think it would take to get Hernandez? Doesn't have to be specific players but rough idea of OVRs and POTs.

Same question for Gallo but I'm guessing he'll be very expensive.

Teoscar would probably require 2 B Pot prospects + a C

[Mackrel829]

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Teoscar would probably require 2 B Pot prospects + a C

So I've just been through the draft and have a little more info about the team going forward. I have the following package that I can trade away:

SS Jeremy Eierman - 23, 69, A
C Austin Allen - 26, 69, B
SP Henry Tanaka - 22, 70, C

Would this be enough to get Joey Gallo? The Rangers have continued to be the worst team in the league and are currently 15-43. Do teams trade within division in baseball though? It's fairly uncommon in other sports. Is this enough to give up for him? I tried including a younger A potential catcher but the CPU will only accept with Allen instead for some reason.

The other catcher is 24, 67, A. I also have a higher upside pitcher who I could swap Tanaka out for who is 18, 65, A.

If it's not enough for Gallo, would it be enough for Gurriel Jr or Hernandez? Which are the Blue Jays more likely to trade out of the two?

Appreciate the advice so far!

[Friar Fanatic]

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So I've just been through the draft and have a little more info about the team going forward. I have the following package that I can trade away:

SS Jeremy Eierman - 23, 69, A
C Austin Allen - 26, 69, B
SP Henry Tanaka - 22, 70, C

Would this be enough to get Joey Gallo? The Rangers have continued to be the worst team in the league and are currently 15-43. Do teams trade within division in baseball though? It's fairly uncommon in other sports. Is this enough to give up for him? I tried including a younger A potential catcher but the CPU will only accept with Allen instead for some reason.

The other catcher is 24, 67, A. I also have a higher upside pitcher who I could swap Tanaka out for who is 18, 65, A.

If it's not enough for Gallo, would it be enough for Gurriel Jr or Hernandez? Which are the Blue Jays more likely to trade out of the two?

Appreciate the advice so far!

I would trade Gallo for that package for sure. If you look under the top prospects, where do those guys rank?

[Mackrel829]

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I would trade Gallo for that package for sure. If you look under the top prospects, where do those guys rank?

None of them are on the top 50 prospect list unfortunately. I have the #4 and #16 ranked prospects but that's it.

You think the initial package is enough for Gallo or should I throw in the better pitcher?

[Friar Fanatic]

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None of them are on the top 50 prospect list unfortunately. I have the #4 and #16 ranked prospects but that's it.

You think the initial package is enough for Gallo or should I throw in the better pitcher?

Gallo would probably command one top 100 spec which that A pot seems like. Then 1-2 more outside the top 100.

The #4 and #16 is too high for Gallo. I think your current package is good

[Mackrel829]

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Gallo would probably command one top 100 spec which that A pot seems like. Then 1-2 more outside the top 100.

The #4 and #16 is too high for Gallo. I think your current package is good

Yeah there's no way I'm trading either of my top two prospects.

I feel like a lot of teams would be interested in Gallo if he was available and the Rangers are in my division so I ended up going with the better pitcher. I also felt fine giving up the lesser guy which often indicates the trade is light.

The trade ended up as follows:

Athletics get:
- RF Joey Gallo - 27, 89, A

Rangers get:
- SP Taylor Heard - 18, 65, A
- SS Jeremy Eierman - 23, 69, A
- C Austin Allen - 26, 69, B

Gallo hit a 451 yard bomb on his very first pitch as an A so already paying dividends! Thanks for the help!

[Mackrel829]

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What sort of trade value do relief pitchers generally have? I'm approaching the trade deadline and would like to add one more solid guy to my bullpen.

I have two good arms in JB Wendelken and Jake Diekman, as well as Trevor Rosenthal as my closer but all of my other guys are old and declining quickly. I don't need anything special, just a solid arm who can be somewhat reliable for an inning or two a game to tide me over until the off-season.

What would a 28 year old, 75-78 overall, B potential relief pitcher on a bad team pitcher fetch in a trade? I'm guessing I should be able to get a guy like this pretty cheap?

I still have this lottery ticket type prospect sitting around:

Ray Bolden - 22, 50, A

Is that enough? That plus an MLB ready rotational player?

[kinsmen7]

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What sort of trade value do relief pitchers generally have? I'm approaching the trade deadline and would like to add one more solid guy to my bullpen.

I have two good arms in JB Wendelken and Jake Diekman, as well as Trevor Rosenthal as my closer but all of my other guys are old and declining quickly. I don't need anything special, just a solid arm who can be somewhat reliable for an inning or two a game to tide me over until the off-season.

What would a 28 year old, 75-78 overall, B potential relief pitcher on a bad team pitcher fetch in a trade? I'm guessing I should be able to get a guy like this pretty cheap?

I still have this lottery ticket type prospect sitting around:

Ray Bolden - 22, 50, A

Is that enough? That plus an MLB ready rotational player?

A players surplus value is based on a few different things:
-Contract
-Years remaining
-WAR (Essentially a bunch of stats mixed together).

And, if it's a prospect, it's based on their future value (Which is based on their place on prospect lists).

So, for the purposes of the question "How much value does a reliever have?", it's not huge. Consider that the most valuable relievers in the league right now, when it comes to surplus value are guys like James Karinchak, Diego Castillo, Devin Williams, and Josh Hader, none of whom are valuable enough to even get a sniff at a top 100 prospect (Though bigger named guys like Hader may have enough name-inspired clout to get someone, and Williams will likely have a pretty big mid-season bump on his value).

Obviously if it's just some ho-hum reliever with a year or two of control remaining, giving up a lotto ticket probably makes sense. As a Jays fan, I'd compare it to the David Phelps trade (Thomas Hatch), or where the Jays got a fringy prospect for Daniel Hudson.

Long story short, yeah, it probably works.

[Mackrel829]

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A players surplus value is based on a few different things:
-Contract
-Years remaining
-WAR (Essentially a bunch of stats mixed together).

And, if it's a prospect, it's based on their future value (Which is based on their place on prospect lists).

So, for the purposes of the question "How much value does a reliever have?", it's not huge. Consider that the most valuable relievers in the league right now, when it comes to surplus value are guys like James Karinchak, Diego Castillo, Devin Williams, and Josh Hader, none of whom are valuable enough to even get a sniff at a top 100 prospect (Though bigger named guys like Hader may have enough name-inspired clout to get someone, and Williams will likely have a pretty big mid-season bump on his value).

Obviously if it's just some ho-hum reliever with a year or two of control remaining, giving up a lotto ticket probably makes sense. As a Jays fan, I'd compare it to the David Phelps trade (Thomas Hatch), or where the Jays got a fringy prospect for Daniel Hudson.

Long story short, yeah, it probably works.

Awesome info, thanks! I'll check out those deals to get an idea of comparable value.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Yeah there's no way I'm trading either of my top two prospects.

I feel like a lot of teams would be interested in Gallo if he was available and the Rangers are in my division so I ended up going with the better pitcher. I also felt fine giving up the lesser guy which often indicates the trade is light.

The trade ended up as follows:

Athletics get:
- RF Joey Gallo - 27, 89, A

Rangers get:
- SP Taylor Heard - 18, 65, A
- SS Jeremy Eierman - 23, 69, A
- C Austin Allen - 26, 69, B

Gallo hit a 451 yard bomb on his very first pitch as an A so already paying dividends! Thanks for the help!

Not to derail this but why would a division rival give the A's a very valuable player and let you keep your better prospects? I can't see a scenario where Gallo goes within the AL West unless its a big overpay