Watching early release videos of scouting and the draft

[tessl]

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I don’t have the game but I’d Be shocked if it changed. Pitcher stamina hasn’t been able to increase since the beginning of the PS4 era. Tbh I doubt it ever will. SDS needs to complete rework franchise mode and just accept the fact that people aren’t falling over themselves to play MTO. They need to just completely scrap the old franchise code and build it back up while diverting resources from MTO back to reworking franchise. Because if they just continue to try and paste over old s*%# code, it’s never going to improve. They said it in the stream, and I honestly do believe that no change is “a small ask” due to the wonky code they are working with that is multiple generations old.

By splitting resources between MTO and franchise right now they are basically doing what in political circles is called “splitting the ticket”. They need to commit to one and get rid of the other. Plus the only reason I think MTO even has an audience is because they got rid of standard season mode a few years ago

I won't start on MTO other than to say it should be eliminated so they can fix franchise. What's disappointing is the big new feature is scouting and the draft. Scouting report on starting pitchers shows a significant increase in stamina from current to potential - and the developers are apparently completely unaware of this long standing bug. I don't own mlbts 23 and doubt I'll buy it because they rarely patch this kind of stuff.

Don't mean to be a Debbie downer but how many years do we have to wait for something so simple - and destructive to franchise mode - to be fixed?

[MiracleMet718]

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I think I'm equally concerned with what this player silhouette thing is on prospects... I had thought game generated caps had their game generated faces on their player cards?

Last year for prospects that have face scans but no portrait, they would have the blank card/silhouette. All the ones without face scans show their created face. I assume these are the prospects on the rosters because all 3 have a face in the game.

[tessl]

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It does not increase.

I submitted a bug report. I'll be shocked if they patch it in but if they do please bump this thread. Until then I'll continue with my mlbts22 franchise.

[Therebelyell626]

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I won't start on MTO other than to say it should be eliminated so they can fix franchise. What's disappointing is the big new feature is scouting and the draft. Scouting report on starting pitchers shows a significant increase in stamina from current to potential - and the developers are apparently completely unaware of this long standing bug. I don't own mlbts 23 and doubt I'll buy it because they rarely patch this kind of stuff.

Don't mean to be a Debbie downer but how many years do we have to wait for something so simple - and destructive to franchise mode - to be fixed?

I’m not surprised to be honest. I watched all of the developer streams on the new scouting and draft, and my initial thought was. Wait, this is basically the same pool of draft players as the old system, with just a new interface and different path to get there. All they did was adjust ages on the prospects, and say instead of making a left to get to your destination, you now make a right. It doesn’t matter how you get there if the destination is ultimately flawed.

I saw the same problems in the videos that I was seeing with the old system. Asian prospects coming out with American names and as black players. Other than Rui Hachimura I have never even seen a black Japanese person. But according to the show there are hundreds of black Japanese players playing baseball right now as we speak. Or how about the old Closing Pitcher being the #1 overall prospect in the draft. Usually top picks who become closers start off as starters but fizzle out. You will never see a sure fire closer ever picked in the first 2 rounds. It just doesn’t happen.

SDS problem was they thought the path to the end result was broken. Which it was. But where they were confused is that the end result is also broken. No matter how you get there the prospect generation is flawed in the show and needs to be redone. That is why I didn’t buy the game yet to be honest. It will take a lot more than flashy confetti and a pretty lady to distract me from the fact that the magician is stuffing the card down his sleeve. And honestly the shows franchise is so stale at this point it doesn’t even excite me to play enough to buy it anymore. And I used to be the guy who would pay for the early release even though I don’t even touch DD

[Funkycorm]

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I’m not surprised to be honest. I watched all of the developer streams on the new scouting and draft, and my initial thought was. Wait, this is basically the same pool of draft players as the old system, with just a new interface and different path to get there. All they did was adjust ages on the prospects, and say instead of making a left to get to your destination, you now make a right. It doesn’t matter how you get there if the destination is ultimately flawed.

I saw the same problems in the videos that I was seeing with the old system. Asian prospects coming out with American names and as black players. Other than Rui Hachimura I have never even seen a black Japanese person. But according to the show there are hundreds of black Japanese players playing baseball right now as we speak. Or how about the old Closing Pitcher being the #1 overall prospect in the draft. Usually top picks who become closers start off as starters but fizzle out. You will never see a sure fire closer ever picked in the first 2 rounds. It just doesn’t happen.

SDS problem was they thought the path to the end result was broken. Which it was. But where they were confused is that the end result is also broken. No matter how you get there the prospect generation is flawed in the show and needs to be redone. That is why I didn’t buy the game yet to be honest. It will take a lot more than flashy confetti and a pretty lady to distract me from the fact that the magician is stuffing the card down his sleeve. And honestly the shows franchise is so stale at this point it doesn’t even excite me to play enough to buy it anymore. And I used to be the guy who would pay for the early release even though I don’t even touch DD

It's gotten better this year. There are no 25 year olds. Less editing has been required but it has still been needed.

Most notably with corner OF all being speed/contact guys and 1B, 3B, and C still having lower overalls because their overalls are weighted differently.

I had to do less editing on the 2 classes I have done so far. It's a step in the right direction but there is still definite room for improvement.

[ripwalk]

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Every franchise I’ve ever had long term needs Draft Class editing to reduce the potentials. Prospects in this game never flame out. They almost always hit their potential mark.

That + base roster having so many B and A potentials completely shatters any realism.

On ‘23, I’ve done a 15 year sim to test if they adjusted progression or regression (they have not)

In 2023, using the base roster, there are 30 90+ OVR Players

In 2028, there are 60+ 90 OVR players

In 2038, there are 75+ 90 OVR players.


It gets to the point where you have 84 OVR Pitchers still in AAA because rotations are so loaded.

I have not found the same at all...

I have a test sim franchise where I'm now in 2040 (so the game world is almost entirely newly generated/drafted guys.

There are only 38 players rated 90+ overall in the game world currently.

There's definitely a skewing of the overall talent, as the vast majority of major leaguers are rated in the 80s or 70s, and virtually no one on the MLB roster is rated in the 60s now.

But I'm also not seeing people stuck in AAA with inflated ratings.

Players in AAA are mostly rated in the 70s (with a VERY rare 80 or 81) ... players in AA are mostly rated in the 60s, with some going up to low 70s.

So it definitely changes the makeup of the league from what it starts with (some players rated in the 60s)

But, I think it is pretty well balanced and I'm happy with the number of "star" players and the overall dispersion of talent.

[Caulfield]

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I have not found the same at all...

I have a test sim franchise where I'm now in 2040 (so the game world is almost entirely newly generated/drafted guys.

There are only 38 players rated 90+ overall in the game world currently.

There's definitely a skewing of the overall talent, as the vast majority of major leaguers are rated in the 80s or 70s, and virtually no one on the MLB roster is rated in the 60s now.

But I'm also not seeing people stuck in AAA with inflated ratings.

Players in AAA are mostly rated in the 70s (with a VERY rare 80 or 81) ... players in AA are mostly rated in the 60s, with some going up to low 70s.

So it definitely changes the makeup of the league from what it starts with (some players rated in the 60s)

But, I think it is pretty well balanced and I'm happy with the number of "star" players and the overall dispersion of talent.

I simmed 100 years into the future and the biggest thing I've seen is that a lot of the player spots that were rated in the 60s are rated in the high 70s and low 80s
and there were a few players rated in the 20s but these were all free agents, not any teams. and there were a handful more players rated in the teens

but this is the year 2122, where few will ever dare tread anyway

[jcar0725]

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I simmed 100 years into the future and the biggest thing I've seen is that a lot of the player spots that were rated in the 60s are rated in the high 70s and low 80s
and there were a few players rated in the 20s but these were all free agents, not any teams. and there were a handful more players rated in the teens

but this is the year 2122, where few will ever dare tread anyway

Do you see any flying cars there in 2122?

[Caulfield]

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Do you see any flying cars there in 2122?

lets just say, where I went, like Doc Brown says, we didnt need any roads lol


another thing I noticed, 100 years in, too many players were making their big league debut in their 30s

I was simming so I could export players out of franchise and one thing I'm having to edit is scale back ages 3 to 4 years on a lot of players.

what I'm wondering is how much of an impact playing with CPU Roster Control ON (I have to so that I'm able to export) is compared to playing with it off.
playing with it on means sacrificing having zero trades and zero injuries. I dont understand why it has to be that way if CPU RC is on. puzzling

[reyes the roof]

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It's gotten better this year. There are no 25 year olds. Less editing has been required but it has still been needed.

Most notably with corner OF all being speed/contact guys and 1B, 3B, and C still having lower overalls because their overalls are weighted differently.

I had to do less editing on the 2 classes I have done so far. It's a step in the right direction but there is still definite room for improvement.

Is there an easy way to find and edit the draft classes? The only way I can think of would be to go to the roster history section to identify who needs to be edited and then go to the roster section to make the edits but that seems pretty tedious

[Therebelyell626]

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I simmed 100 years into the future and the biggest thing I've seen is that a lot of the player spots that were rated in the 60s are rated in the high 70s and low 80s
and there were a few players rated in the 20s but these were all free agents, not any teams. and there were a handful more players rated in the teens

but this is the year 2122, where few will ever dare tread anyway

100 year?!?! I don’t know if you’re joking or not. That’s crazy. I didn’t even know Franchise could go that far

[Funkycorm]

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Is there an easy way to find and edit the draft classes? The only way I can think of would be to go to the roster history section to identify who needs to be edited and then go to the roster section to make the edits but that seems pretty tedious

Screenshots or take pictures on your phone the day the signing is complete. That way you just go down the list.

I have the ps app linked to my PS5 so all my screenshots go into the app for 14 days. If I am going to be longer than that before the end of the regular season (when I am simming it is only a day at most) I download the pics to my phone for easy access later.

This will give you the full picks for every team. I used to write them all out but that got tedious after a while.

[Funkycorm]

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In the off season of 2025 and multiple pitchers across the league, MLB and MiLB, have had stamina increases. It is 1 point in the positive direction. Not entirely stagnant but improvement is still needed.

[Caulfield]

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same here. what I finally decided worked for me was I go with:
18 age+75 Ovr=99 potential
19 age+74 Ovr=98 pot.
20 age+73 Ovr=97 pot.
etc. until I get to age 30+63 Ovr=87 pot.

then I repeat with 18 age+74 Ovr=98
19 age+73=97
so on and so on, rinse repeat

I have to redo this because I saw San Francisco draft an 18 year old whose Overall was 81 at his entry into the Giants farm system.
so what I would like to know,
what's the highest Overall you guys have seen an 18 year old start off with?
hopefully it isn't much higher than 81?

[Caulfield]

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100 year?!?! I don’t know if you’re joking or not. That’s crazy. I didn’t even know Franchise could go that far

not joking, takes 30 minutes to sim 10 years, so I broke it into ten 30 minutes chunks last Saturday and Sunday, so I spread that 5 hours of simming over roughly a 36 hour period