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  • Kramer5150
    Medicore Mike
    • Dec 2002
    • 7391

    #76
    Re: Too many strikeouts

    Originally posted by countryboy
    Then I guess stop asking what settings/sliders people are using if none of it matters.

    Trying to help, don't need a lecture.
    Originally posted by countryboy
    If you're constantly changing settings/sliders after a game or a handful of games, you're never going to find a "balance" because you're putting too much stock into "one off" stats.

    I would play at the very least a month of games (30) in franchise or play thru spring training without simming, to get a bearing on how your settings/sliders are playing out. Then make minimal adjustments from there, and go another 30 games or so.

    Predicting statistical outcomes on anything less than that, I think leads to you chasing "perfect" sliders/settings that you'll never find because a game, a series, or a week in franchise is going to disturb your quest to find "perfect" stats.

    You say you don't need a lecture?? then what the hell was your post? That's right a lecture.

    It's pathetic that some here can't handle any criticism of their precious game and will go to any lengths to disprove anything.

    I've been on this site for many MANY years and it's the same damn thing every year....somebody will mention something that could quite be an issue with the game and the white knights will ride in on their silver horse and proclaim it's a "you" issue.

    I seen the same crap in regards to Madden 23 with the int issue, now it's the same damn thing with the Show and strikeout issues...
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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52720

      #77
      Re: Too many strikeouts

      Originally posted by Kramer5150
      You say you don't need a lecture?? then what the hell was your post? That's right a lecture.

      It's pathetic that some here can't handle any criticism of their precious game and will go to any lengths to disprove anything.

      I've been on this site for many MANY years and it's the same damn thing every year....somebody will mention something that could quite be an issue with the game and the white knights will ride in on their silver horse and proclaim it's a "you" issue.

      I seen the same crap in regards to Madden 23 with the int issue, now it's the same damn thing with the Show and strikeout issues...
      What the **** are you talking about? I haven't tried to disprove a damn thing!

      I shared my experience and offered up a suggestion to him to try out and he shot it down, while explaining how he can feel as though his current setup isn't working and went on to state that he doesn't believe a setting or a slider is the cause. So what is the point in asking for others settings/suggestions if he's not going to legitimately try them because he doesn't think they have any merit to his issue?

      Save your "white knight" bull**** for someone else
      Last edited by countryboy; 04-07-2023, 04:12 PM.
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      • bkrich83
        Has Been
        • Jul 2002
        • 71577

        #78
        Re: Too many strikeouts

        Originally posted by Kramer5150
        You say you don't need a lecture?? then what the hell was your post? That's right a lecture.

        It's pathetic that some here can't handle any criticism of their precious game and will go to any lengths to disprove anything.

        I've been on this site for many MANY years and it's the same damn thing every year....somebody will mention something that could quite be an issue with the game and the white knights will ride in on their silver horse and proclaim it's a "you" issue.

        I seen the same crap in regards to Madden 23 with the int issue, now it's the same damn thing with the Show and strikeout issues...
        WTF are you talking about? Someone asked for advice and he like others gave some, it's that simple.

        Your post here besides being nonsensical is way off base.
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        • JoshC1977
          All Star
          • Dec 2010
          • 11564

          #79
          Re: Too many strikeouts

          Originally posted by bryanm1982
          I get what you are saying. But between me and Steve we have been playing this game finding a good balance nonstop since March 28th. Probably at least 100 games between us. Now the sliders have been adjusted throughout the process but shave been somewhat close. We play a handful of games before adjusting a slider but throughout the testing we have seen high strikeouts. The only thing that changes is the amount of hits/home runs.

          I don’t know if we are averaging 13-15 K’s per game after 20 games it will stop and go down to 8-10 per game.

          At this point, it isn’t even chasing perfect stats. It’s chasing a simulated game and not an arcade feel game.

          I’m just hoping that there is something that we have set that is causing this for us.

          I hope you don’t take this as being combative or arguing. I know we are just trying to help each other.
          My two cents..start over with default....but never touch any of the stamina sliders (on either side).

          I can all but guarantee you will find a much better balance a lot faster and with far less extreme settings. It impacts how hard pitchers throw, which impacts control dynamics, which feeds into pitch locations, etc. It has a definite spiraling impact...and we've seen that year after year.

          I have had zero issues hitting 100+ pitches with guys having upper-70s stamina. If you can't get there, you're overthrowing too frequently (i.e. tap more).

          Will CPU pitchers sometimes get pulled with fewer pitches thrown? Yes. Do the decisions generally make sense when they are pulled based on situation? Yes. But if you're really struggling to fins a balance, you might want to consider accepting that for the greater good.

          I'm out for the weekend, but I figured I'd offer that before I log-off.
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          • KnightTemplar
            MVP
            • Feb 2017
            • 3282

            #80
            Re: Too many strikeouts

            Originally posted by Kramer5150
            You say you don't need a lecture?? then what the hell was your post? That's right a lecture.

            It's pathetic that some here can't handle any criticism of their precious game and will go to any lengths to disprove anything.

            I've been on this site for many MANY years and it's the same damn thing every year....somebody will mention something that could quite be an issue with the game and the white knights will ride in on their silver horse and proclaim it's a "you" issue.

            I seen the same crap in regards to Madden 23 with the int issue, now it's the same damn thing with the Show and strikeout issues...
            Lol. Oof…….

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            • Kramer5150
              Medicore Mike
              • Dec 2002
              • 7391

              #81
              Re: Too many strikeouts

              Originally posted by countryboy
              What the **** are you talking about? I haven't tried to disprove a damn thing!

              I shared my experience and offered up a suggestion to him to try out and he shot it down, while explaining how he can feel as though his current setup isn't working and went on to state that he doesn't believe a setting or a slider is the cause. So what is the point in asking for others settings/suggestions if he's not going to legitimately try them because he doesn't think they have any merit to his issue?

              Save your "white knight" bull**** for someone else
              White knight bull? this is a typical response from you, I have seen it time and time again, and I'm sure you'll continue to impress.
              People are for reviews if it backs their argument, and against them when they don't.
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              • Kramer5150
                Medicore Mike
                • Dec 2002
                • 7391

                #82
                Re: Too many strikeouts

                Originally posted by bkrich83
                WTF are you talking about? Someone asked for advice and he like others gave some, it's that simple.

                Your post here besides being nonsensical is way off base.
                And again, here we go...
                People are for reviews if it backs their argument, and against them when they don't.
                “I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest – If you can’t take it, you shouldn’t play!” Jack Lambert
                “Quarterbacks should wear dresses.” Jack Lambert

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                • countryboy
                  Growing pains
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 52720

                  #83
                  Too many strikeouts

                  Originally posted by Kramer5150
                  White knight bull? this is a typical response from you, I have seen it time and time again, and I'm sure you'll continue to impress.

                  What the **** is your problem?

                  You only participate in thread to give me ****?

                  Put me on ignore if I bother you so much.

                  Damn


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                  • bkrich83
                    Has Been
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 71577

                    #84
                    Re: Too many strikeouts

                    Originally posted by Kramer5150
                    And again, here we go...
                    While I applaud your effort at victimhood here, you're actually making less sense.



                    Anywhoo,
                    I have noticed an increase in K's as well, was playing HOF metered pitching, I'm going to play some games on Legend Default with metered pitching to see what if anything changes.

                    I prefer Pulse pitching but on HOF it was too easy to continually hit your spots, but I may give Pulse a shot on Legend as well. In all these years I've never pitched on Legend so we'll see how it goes.
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                    • DarthRambo
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 6630

                      #85
                      Re: Too many strikeouts

                      Sorry everyone. Didn't mean to cause such a stir lol. I was honestly only in here to basically agree with the OP that strikeouts are high this year. Then I was giving evidence to support that. Really never was my intention to ask for ideas. I have a good understanding of sliders and what does what to know what to try, which I have been for two days straight now. Again, just here to confirm what the OP is suggesting is all. There is most certainly a problem with high Ks. How to fix it? I really don't know. The post wasn't about how to fix it to me, only to support the OP post or not. At least that's how I went into it.

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                      • IndianSummer
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2020
                        • 750

                        #86
                        Re: Too many strikeouts

                        I’m on Legend, I have dropped the human starting pitcher stamina 1 click and increased the AI solid hits by 1 click. These changes was not intended to cure a strikeout problem, I just thought my starters was pitching pretty deep into games and the solid hits was to add a bit more punch to the AI

                        My last game against the Braves, Matz was my starting pitcher and this was his line.
                        IP 4.0 H 8 ER 4 BB 0 K 0

                        Now no doubt that is a rarity but it still happened. I have a team total of 44 k and have pitched 39 innings. I had one go 12 innings.
                        Last edited by IndianSummer; 04-07-2023, 07:08 PM.
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                        • jcar0725
                          "ADAPT OR DIE"
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 3818

                          #87
                          Re: Too many strikeouts

                          Originally posted by DarthRambo
                          Sorry everyone. Didn't mean to cause such a stir lol. I was honestly only in here to basically agree with the OP that strikeouts are high this year. Then I was giving evidence to support that. Really never was my intention to ask for ideas. I have a good understanding of sliders and what does what to know what to try, which I have been for two days straight now. Again, just here to confirm what the OP is suggesting is all. There is most certainly a problem with high Ks. How to fix it? I really don't know. The post wasn't about how to fix it to me, only to support the OP post or not. At least that's how I went into it.

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                          • Caulfield
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 10986

                            #88
                            Re: Too many strikeouts

                            Originally posted by jcar0725
                            YES YOU DID ! j/k

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                            j/k as well,
                            but seriously, we can't have a dark lord of the sith up in here going all Mr. Rogers on us
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                            • BowlageGuy
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2022
                              • 20

                              #89
                              Re: Too many strikeouts

                              I'm definitely seeing exorbitantly high numbers of strikeouts as well playing on default legend pitching. With that said, the patch seems to have cured it a bit even though it said no gameplay changes.

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                              • IndianSummer
                                Pro
                                • Oct 2020
                                • 750

                                #90
                                Re: Too many strikeouts

                                One thing that will reduce them a bit is to change your umpires to “perfect” on the strike zone. I have seen some called 3rd strikes on some pitches quite a ways out of the zone.
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