Too many strikeouts

[baseballguy99]

Re: Too many strikeouts

The hitting this year is the best it's ever been. But they completely screwed pitching up to the point that I'm almost done with it.

I completely agree with this statement. Hitting feels so solid but pitching is a disaster.. I’m also about to give up on finding a balance

[405Cowboy]

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Depending on who the pitcher is, I see/have more foul balls than strikeouts. Particularly if it's a pitch that doesn't have a 4FB in his repertoire.

[cubby blue]

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I have just learned to accept it. Yes it sucks. This game could be a gem. I still think it's fun to play, but the strikeouts do take away from the game.

[DarthRambo]

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I have just learned to accept it. Yes it sucks. This game could be a gem. I still think it's fun to play, but the strikeouts do take away from the game.

Right. I'm in the same boat. It is what it is here. 9 out of 10 games, I'll have 13+ strikeouts. Very rarely do I have less than 10. But cpu still gets hits with our slider setup. Ignoring their BABIP and rolling with the punches. Game is too good to worry about high Ks too much. I'm sure they could patch fix the problem, but they did this for online players. Unfortunately causing more swing and misses online transferred over to offline play vs the cpu somehow.

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[frank70]

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I am playing a cpu vs cpu franchise right now. So my experience obviously might vary to yours playing the game with a controller in hand.

What i found out:

- don't mess with sliders

The sliders are very sensitive. In other games you have a scale between 0 and 100.
In MLB The Show we have only 10 slider positions. And every change of a slider has a significant input how the games play on the field. So i leave all sliders at default and play on Allstar level.

What i do instead is changing the attributes of the players. In my franchise with the Yankees (with the default rosters) all offensive numbers were low, i had too many strikeouts and too many BB. But changing sliders threw off other aspects of the game. Either the statistical numbers weren't right or the play on the field just looked unrealistic.

So i began changing player attributes:

- contact +5
- power + 5
- vision +5

Pitchers:

K/9 -10
BB/9 +10

And that actually worked.

If you are striking out too may people when playing the game yourself, lowering the strikeout attributes of your pitchers in combination with bumping up the vision ratings for the cpu might be a solution. It costs me around 5 minutes before each series to change the attributes - but for me it was worth it.

[bronxbombers21325]

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I have just learned to accept it. Yes it sucks. This game could be a gem. I still think it's fun to play, but the strikeouts do take away from the game.

To me, it takes 23 from being the best version of the game ever, to a "maybe they'll get it right next year" version.

[DarthRambo]

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To me, it takes 23 from being the best version of the game ever, to a "maybe they'll get it right next year" version.

I can't disagree with this statement unfortunately lol. The mass strikeouts is the only gripe I have with the game this year. Tried Allstar default, and it is horrible this year. They will strike out looking about 1 every 3 batters it seems. Then if you actually attempt to pitch normally, 15-17Ks is the norm.

As it stands, MLB 22 is the best version on the field for me still. But 2023 is better in other areas. If you include the new schedule and playoff format, along with scouting and draft update it's very even overall with 2022 as best version yet.

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[bronxbombers21325]

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I can't disagree with this statement unfortunately lol. The mass strikeouts is the only gripe I have with the game this year. Tried Allstar default, and it is horrible this year. They will strike out looking about 1 every 3 batters it seems. Then if you actually attempt to pitch normally, 15-17Ks is the norm.

As it stands, MLB 22 is the best version on the field for me still. But 2023 is better in other areas. If you include the new schedule and playoff format, along with scouting and draft update it's very even overall with 2022 as best version yet.

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It's very rare to go an inning without a strikeout. It happens but they're few and far in between.

[JoshC1977]

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Tried Allstar default, and it is horrible this year. They will strike out looking about 1 every 3 batters it seems. Then if you actually attempt to pitch normally, 15-17Ks is the norm.

Try All Star+ default (for both hitting and pitching with no slider adjustments at all except for injuries and trade frequency if desired). For me, it has struck a really nice balance using classic with no visual assists or controller vibration.

[bryanm1982]

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It is almost like the K/9 ratings for pitchers are useless. We tried cutting all the K/9 ratings on all the Mets pitchers by half and you still get the same amount of K's.

I don't know why they created three groups (easy, simulation, and the other one that is harder) if they can't separate the codes. If it was too difficult to strike people out online, then don't touch simulation. And if you can't separate them...then why have them?

[bronxbombers21325]

Re: Too many strikeouts

It is almost like the K/9 ratings for pitchers are useless. We tried cutting all the K/9 ratings on all the Mets pitchers by half and you still get the same amount of K's.

I don't know why they created three groups (easy, simulation, and the other one that is harder) if they can't separate the codes. If it was too difficult to strike people out online, then don't touch simulation. And if you can't separate them...then why have them?

I think it has more to do with the online players wanting to play a whole game in 5 minutes than it does with striking people out. The longer hitters stay alive the longer games take. Every change that has been made for years is for the purpose of making games faster. It's destroyed the immersion in the process.

[baseballguy99]

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I’m also finding the cpu fouls too many hanging pitches. I can paint the corners but when I hang pitches they are almost always fouled

[RogueHominid]

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Try All Star+ default (for both hitting and pitching with no slider adjustments at all except for injuries and trade frequency if desired). For me, it has struck a really nice balance using classic with no visual assists or controller vibration.

All Star + has been a real boon to me this year as well. It feels just right in that I can get hits, can get blanked, can pitch well, and can get tagged, depending on the day.

[JoshC1977]

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It is almost like the K/9 ratings for pitchers are useless. We tried cutting all the K/9 ratings on all the Mets pitchers by half and you still get the same amount of K's.

I disagree with this. I'm close to 100 games played on AS+ default (no QCs) into my franchise and I see a very strong correlation between K/9 ratings and the pitcher's K-rates in played games. I have some guys averaging 5 or 6 K/9 and others who average more than a 1K per inning.

Try All Star+ default (for both hitting and pitching with no slider adjustments at all except for injuries and trade frequency if desired). For me, it has struck a really nice balance using classic with no visual assists or controller vibration.

Sorry, I forgot one critical detail. I DO NOT use quick counts and I would be remiss if I did not point that out as I have noted a correlation between people having "issues" quite often being those using QCs (acknowledging also that correlation does not equal causation).

[bryanm1982]

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I disagree with this. I'm close to 100 games played on AS+ default (no QCs) into my franchise and I see a very strong correlation between K/9 ratings and the pitcher's K-rates in played games. I have some guys averaging 5 or 6 K/9 and others who average more than a 1K per inning.





Sorry, I forgot one critical detail. I DO NOT use quick counts and I would be remiss if I did not point that out as I have noted a correlation between people having "issues" quite often being those using QCs (acknowledging also that correlation does not equal causation).

Well, we were thinking since the strikeouts are not high in simulated games, that we could lower our own pitcher's K/9 rating. That would in theory, lower the strikeouts, right? If you did decrease your staff's rating by 30% for example across the board, you would still have the difference in ratings but they would be lowered. But we tried that over a couple of games and still seen 15+ strikeouts.

And I do use quick counts. And that is probably causing some of the strikeouts. Just hate to give them up because of limited time.