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  • DarthRambo
    MVP
    • Mar 2008
    • 6630

    #121
    Re: Too many strikeouts

    They're simply out of control but it is what it is. We finally found a way to get them to be a more realistic rate but man lol. Even with contact at 9 or 10 and timing always at 10 for cpu I have 10-13Ks sometimes. HOF, Legend, Allstar, it doesn't even make a difference sadly. And I'm use classic pitching with lowered control and consistency so it's definitely the game.

    But at least I also now have games of 4-7Ks. One game I only had one strikeout. So finally got it balanced, but it is pretty dumb what SDS did. Changing it for online makes zero sense cause that is Zone hitting. If the guy can move the PCI in the correct spot why wouldn't he make contact?

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    • jeffy777
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      • Jan 2009
      • 3320

      #122
      Re: Too many strikeouts

      Originally posted by DarthRambo

      Changing it for online makes zero sense cause that is Zone hitting. If the guy can move the PCI in the correct spot why wouldn't he make contact?

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      The problem was they could still make contact outside of the PCI and foul off stuff they had no business getting to.

      But yes I agree that it's unfortunate that would have a negative impact on offline pitching, if indeed that's what it is. Dunno for sure, but that was the biggest change they emphasized this year with the engine.

      In the past, we would see the CPU fouling off too many pitches as well so it really is a delicate balance.
      Last edited by jeffy777; 04-12-2023, 01:33 PM.

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      • Kotter
        Pro
        • Feb 2003
        • 513

        #123
        Re: Too many strikeouts

        Originally posted by DarthRambo
        They're simply out of control but it is what it is. We finally found a way to get them to be a more realistic rate but man lol. Even with contact at 9 or 10 and timing always at 10 for cpu I have 10-13Ks sometimes. HOF, Legend, Allstar, it doesn't even make a difference sadly. And I'm use classic pitching with lowered control and consistency so it's definitely the game.

        But at least I also now have games of 4-7Ks. One game I only had one strikeout. So finally got it balanced, but it is pretty dumb what SDS did. Changing it for online makes zero sense cause that is Zone hitting. If the guy can move the PCI in the correct spot why wouldn't he make contact?

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        So what are your settings for CPU contact, timing, power, and solid base bits?

        I can’t access my sliders right now, but I use HOF classic pitching and for the most part it has been realistic in terms of hits, HRs, and runs scored, but I’m striking out the CPU a TON.


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        • DarthRambo
          MVP
          • Mar 2008
          • 6630

          #124
          Re: Too many strikeouts

          Originally posted by Kotter
          So what are your settings for CPU contact, timing, power, and solid base bits?

          I can’t access my sliders right now, but I use HOF classic pitching and for the most part it has been realistic in terms of hits, HRs, and runs scored, but I’m striking out the CPU a TON.


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          • strosdood
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            • Nov 2020
            • 1162

            #125
            Re: Too many strikeouts

            Not sure what difficulty/sliders guys that are saying CPU is striking out to much are playing on but it can’t be Legend with CpU contact turned up to 7 or more lol

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            • bkrich83
              Has Been
              • Jul 2002
              • 71577

              #126
              Re: Too many strikeouts

              I'm playing quick counts and I think I'm getting dialed in for my skill level.

              Legend pitching. CPU Hitting and power at 6. Human pitch accuracy and Consistency at 4. Classic pitching with no pitch aim indicator. I've played 2 series with these settings and had good but varied results, which is what I personally am looking at.

              Last game vs. the Red Sox with Sonny Gray as the starter my end game totals were 8k's, 4 BB's, 11 hits and 9 runs given up, with one home run.

              I also had a game against the Yankees with with Joe Ryan as the starter where I struck out 11, walked 3, gave up 7 hits and 3 runs (Aaron Judge hit a 30000000 foot homer off me in that one)

              If these results hold up where I'm getting varied games and players are playing to their ratings I think I'm set.

              Your mileage may vary as I'm a middling level player at best, so these may be too easy for most of the good players here.
              Last edited by bkrich83; 04-12-2023, 11:29 PM.
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              • ripwalk
                Pro
                • May 2009
                • 531

                #127
                Re: Too many strikeouts

                Originally posted by bkrich83
                I'm playing quick counts and I think I'm getting dialed in for my skill level.

                Legend pitching. CPU Hitting and power at 6. Human pitch accuracy and Consistency at 4. Classic pitching with no pitch aim indicator. I've played 2 series with these settings and had good but varied results, which is what I personally am looking at.

                Last game vs. the Red Sox with Sonny Gray as the starter my end game totals were 8k's, 4 BB's, 11 hits and 9 runs given up, with one home run.

                I also had a game against the Yankees with with Joe Ryan as the starter where I struck out 11, walked 3, gave up 7 hits and 3 runs (Aaron Judge hit a 30000000 foot homer off me in that one)

                If these results hold up where I'm getting varied games and players are playing to their ratings I think I'm set.

                Your mileage may vary as I'm a middling level player at best, so these may be too easy for most of the good players here.
                I came here to say similar. I also play quick counts and I've got CPU contact at 6, CPU vision at 10 and Human consistency/control at 4 or 3 (Don't recall offhand) .. I use analog pitching.

                And I use dynamic difficulty and up until my last 4 or 5 games the K's have still been out of control. But these last 5 games I've bumped up to Hall of Fame+ difficulty for pitching and this seems to have helped the balance ... I've had games where guys with K/9 in the 70's have only had 3 to 5 K's (as compared to a typical 8 to 12 usually before) ... I've finally had 2+ innings in a row where I don't get a K (which would virtually never happen before) ... And I'm seeing K rates much better overall.

                Small sample size, but I'm very happy with where things are with it now. So perhaps I just need to get rid of dynamic for pitching and stick on Hall of Fame+ (although I've come close to pushing into Legend too, so will be curious to see what it's like if I get there)

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                • cubby blue
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 620

                  #128
                  Re: Too many strikeouts

                  Anybody who's having this problem have a solution. Somebody said to raise the timing a notch, but I was getting tagged...lol Maybe I gave up on it too fast.. or maybe I should switch to hof with the timing to 6. It's really frustrating. I enjoy playing the game, but really ruins it for me.
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                  • bronxbombers21325
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 3058

                    #129
                    Re: Too many strikeouts

                    Originally posted by cubby blue
                    Anybody who's having this problem have a solution. Somebody said to raise the timing a notch, but I was getting tagged...lol Maybe I gave up on it too fast.. or maybe I should switch to hof with the timing to 6. It's really frustrating. I enjoy playing the game, but really ruins it for me.
                    I'm doing HOF with CPU timing and contact at 6, with human control at 4. Pitching is still stupidly easy. I decided to play a couple of games with control at 3 and absolutely got destroyed both games. So I don't know. I'm at a loss on what to do about pitching.

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                    • dandeb
                      Rookie
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 75

                      #130
                      Re: Too many strikeouts

                      What I found that helped in reducing HR's is by lowering the Wind along with Power and Solid Hits

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                      • cubby blue
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 620

                        #131
                        Re: Too many strikeouts

                        OK, I decided to change to hof for pitching and hitting. The only thing I did to the sliders was raise the timing for cpu to 6.

                        I played one game and I had 13 strikeouts by my pitcher and I struck out 10 times.

                        I'm at a loss.

                        I guess I will go back to default hof for hitting and legend for pitching .
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                        • bryanm1982
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                          • Nov 2016
                          • 3785

                          #132
                          Re: Too many strikeouts

                          Originally posted by cubby blue
                          OK, I decided to change to hof for pitching and hitting. The only thing I did to the sliders was raise the timing for cpu to 6.

                          I played one game and I had 13 strikeouts by my pitcher and I struck out 10 times.

                          I'm at a loss.

                          I guess I will go back to default hof for hitting and legend for pitching .
                          We can get those strikeouts using Legend. And that is ridiculous. You'll need to bump up contact.
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                          • cubby blue
                            Pro
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 620

                            #133
                            Re: Too many strikeouts

                            Alright, I will set contact to 6 for hitting and pitching. I will try anything...I will report back on what I find.

                            I think this is baked into the programming of this year's game, but if it will settle the strikeouts to respectable, I will be happy.
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                            • jskramer83
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 17

                              #134
                              Re: Too many strikeouts

                              This can not be solved by contact sliders, the reason for the strikeouts is that the pci shrinks on breaking pitches and off speed pitches.

                              This affects everything no matter what type of hitting you are using. As well as the ai, it makes hitting off speed pitches not down the middle near impossible for any hitting not using zone, and very difficult for zone users.

                              The ai’s pci must shrink as well making it near impossible for the ai as well.

                              This is more prevalent post patch because the pitching forgives must of affected the ai as well so they make less mistake pitches and are much better at hitting spots outside the standard timing and directional pci

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                              • cubby blue
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 620

                                #135
                                Re: Too many strikeouts

                                Well, it's back to default hof. I'm tired of trying to find a solution. I will start my chise and let the strikeouts fall where they may.
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