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  • forme95
    MVP
    • Nov 2013
    • 3118

    #106
    Re: I'm gonna say it & it might ruffle some feathers...

    Originally posted by GAMEBREAKER85
    One thing I noticed about raising the CPU timing - the higher I had it, I saw a lot more check swings on strikes. I think my personal fav. Setting for cou timing is at 6 maybe 7 max.

    This morning I played a couple games and for the first time I did NOT play on personalized strike zone for umpire settings. I played on the “MLB Average” setting and it was sooooo much more enjoyable.
    Ive actually thought about switching to MLB average, but more to turning off check swing appeal. Ive noticed in early counts it favors ball and for third strike it favors strike. Which doesnt bother me until I see the batter flinch and not take the bat off his shoulder and they call it strike 3.

    Disclaimer: This is not in any way negative towards SDS or MLBTS. The game is perfect. All comments made are off observation and playing said game.
    Really wish sports games played to ratings!
    Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
    CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
    MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
    Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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    • KnightTemplar
      MVP
      • Feb 2017
      • 3282

      #107
      Re: I'm gonna say it & it might ruffle some feathers...

      Originally posted by IndianSummer
      I agree KT I am usually pretty good at manipulating the sliders to get the game to play how I want it but I don’t think I can slow down the strikeouts.

      I have played on HOF for years, this year I’m playing on Legend and have had to add punch to the AI as well. This is troubling, if the game becomes to easy to beat….I will be done with it. The challenge is what I like. I guess that is why I have never won the series since I started playing in 06. The strikeouts are out of control as I have changed AI contact to 6 and timing to 10 trying to slow them down. It has helped some but they are still to high.
      Check your PMs.

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      • snaz16
        *p*r*t**n Sp*rts J*nk**
        • Jul 2002
        • 660

        #108
        Re: I'm gonna say it & it might ruffle some feathers...

        Originally posted by forme95
        Ive actually thought about switching to MLB average, but more to turning off check swing appeal. Ive noticed in early counts it favors ball and for third strike it favors strike. Which doesnt bother me until I see the batter flinch and not take the bat off his shoulder and they call it strike 3.

        Disclaimer: This is not in any way negative towards SDS or MLBTS. The game is perfect. All comments made are off observation and playing said game.
        I posted this last night on the patch 9 thread,and I have both check swing appeals turned off and umpire calls set to perfect. There are still check swings though not as many and you will get a ton of pitches on the edge that become balls. Give it a shot for a game or two. What have you got to lose? The caveat to this is you will walk more also.

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        • forme95
          MVP
          • Nov 2013
          • 3118

          #109
          Re: I'm gonna say it & it might ruffle some feathers...

          Originally posted by snaz16
          I posted this last night on the patch 9 thread,and I have both check swing appeals turned off and umpire calls set to perfect. There are still check swings though not as many and you will get a ton of pitches on the edge that become balls. Give it a shot for a game or two. What have you got to lose? The caveat to this is you will walk more also.
          Thanks for the feedback. I will give it a try
          Really wish sports games played to ratings!
          Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
          CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
          MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
          Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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          • DonkeyJote
            All Star
            • Jul 2003
            • 9171

            #110
            Re: I'm gonna say it & it might ruffle some feathers...

            I'm pitching on Legend right now with CPU contact/power/solid hits/fouls at 5/7/5/5 right now and getting good strike out and whiff results. My biggest issues right now are actually the CPU not chasing enough. Contact rates in the zone are a little high, out of the zone a little low (but a LOT better than when I was on All-Star), but over whiff rates are decent (on the low side of MLB averages, but given that I have a very poor pitching staff, makes sense).

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            • GAMEBREAKER85
              Rookie
              • Jun 2014
              • 377

              #111
              Re: I'm gonna say it & it might ruffle some feathers...

              I currently have an in-game save in the 7th inning 0-0 - this would make me have a 26 inning scoreless streak at the moment on the mound…

              Legend Pitching with Pitch Control Down to 4 and CPU hitting sliders raised to help the computer.

              I think I’m 34 games into the season & given up more than 5 runs one time w/ the Mets (rarely do I give up more than 2-3). Team ERA under 3.00, 1st in MLB in Team ERA, Ks, Least HR allowed, top 3 in least hits allowed.

              I’m enjoying the grind but this game is still an enigma. And it just feels blah with those team pitching stats.

              *Anyone else on the PS4 during Day games getting an issue when you’re batting of right before being set in the box the uniform on your hitter kind of flickers like the shadows are messed up?

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              • jcar0725
                "ADAPT OR DIE"
                • Aug 2010
                • 3819

                #112
                Re: I'm gonna say it & it might ruffle some feathers...

                Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                I'm pitching on Legend right now with CPU contact/power/solid hits/fouls at 5/7/5/5 right now and getting good strike out and whiff results. My biggest issues right now are actually the CPU not chasing enough. Contact rates in the zone are a little high, out of the zone a little low (but a LOT better than when I was on All-Star), but over whiff rates are decent (on the low side of MLB averages, but given that I have a very poor pitching staff, makes sense).

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                This is close to what I use for pitching on classic and its working well.

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                • CBoller1331
                  It Appears I Blue Myself
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 3082

                  #113
                  Re: I'm gonna say it & it might ruffle some feathers...

                  Originally posted by GAMEBREAKER85
                  I currently have an in-game save in the 7th inning 0-0 - this would make me have a 26 inning scoreless streak at the moment on the mound…

                  Legend Pitching with Pitch Control Down to 4 and CPU hitting sliders raised to help the computer.

                  I think I’m 34 games into the season & given up more than 5 runs one time w/ the Mets (rarely do I give up more than 2-3). Team ERA under 3.00, 1st in MLB in Team ERA, Ks, Least HR allowed, top 3 in least hits allowed.

                  I’m enjoying the grind but this game is still an enigma. And it just feels blah with those team pitching stats.
                  I was in a similar "rut" of dominance on the mound, and I lowered human pitch control to zero (everything else default) and it really swung everything the other way. I was pitching on Legend+ (with Dynamic Difficulty) and after two games it bumped me all the way down to Hall of Fame and I am still being challenged there.

                  Zero might be a bit extreme, but lowering pitcher control lower than 4 might help your situation. I haven't followed the whole thread to know if this is the case for you, but I'd also advise against raising the Starter Stamina slider. That seems to have a big effect on my starters performance. Leave it at 5 and adjust individual ratings if needed
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                  • thesportsartist
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2021
                    • 129

                    #114
                    Re: I'm gonna say it & it might ruffle some feathers...

                    I couldn’t agree more. This game is incredibly scripted. You can tell…when the game didn’t want you to win or get a hit. No reason why on a hanging curveball up in the zone with 99 power hitter 90+ contact etc with good timing…that i should fly out to the infield as much as it happens in this game.I put the game down after a month.

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                    • thesportsartist
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2021
                      • 129

                      #115
                      Re: I'm gonna say it & it might ruffle some feathers...

                      Originally posted by HeadCoach2.0
                      Here is my two cents:


                      To sum it up in a simple phrase ....23 is a game that has 500 things correct and 15 things wrong...what I mean by that is not the literal number but the fact that the depth of the simulation far outweighs the problems the game has.

                      This years game is a test of your managerial skills as much as it is your playing skills. If you truly don't understand baseball strategy you will not have much fun with this years game. The offensive AI is strong this year.

                      IMHO it is the world's first TRUE sports simulation due to the difficulty of winning when you play all your franchise games. You really have to know how to pitch to beat the stronger AI . It is very hard to close out a win against the CPU.

                      The only issue is the problem with too many K'S but I was able to solve that by increasing the CPU foul tendency slider. I know most people say that changing that slider doesn't affect contact but it worked for me to eliminate a lot of the swings and misses. We ALL pitch and play differently so maybe that will not work for everyone.

                      Example:

                      If 10,000 people or whatever number are playing the game at any given time they will have 10,000 unique pitching and playing patterns. This makes finding a universal solution to any problem pretty much impossible.

                      You have to experiment and find your own solutions. The sliders are there for a reason.

                      It is amazing how the timing and action from the show measures up to a real game. It really shows you just how much they got right when you play the show as a simulation.
                      I feel like you couldn’t be more wrong. This is by far the easiest MLB the Show (against the CPU). The AI offense is atrocious. The hitting as a whole is nerfed. The game doesn’t test your GM skills when the AI can barely make contact. I have no clue how you came to that conclusion. However I wish i enjoyed the game as much as you!

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                      • gr18
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 2302

                        #116
                        Re: I'm gonna say it & it might ruffle some feathers...

                        The people that say their pitching too good or cpu hitting sucks must be too stubborn to adjust the sliders because they do work.

                        This means that with the sliders jacked on Legend the cpu can't hit!???Im not buying that.At default HOF I catch hell getting outs sometimes.Ive gotten lit up with really good pitchers.

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                        • IndianSummer
                          Pro
                          • Oct 2020
                          • 750

                          #117
                          Re: I'm gonna say it & it might ruffle some feathers...



                          I’m certainly not to good at pitching, classic but there is something off on the CPU hitting.
                          Playing on Legend for the first time since I started playing back in 2006.
                          I have CPU contact at 8, power at 6, foul frequency 8 and timing at 10.
                          Player settings are default.


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                          • DonkeyJote
                            All Star
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 9171

                            #118
                            Re: I'm gonna say it & it might ruffle some feathers...

                            Human Control 2, Consistency 3, CPU Contact/Timing/Foul/Solid Hits 5, Power 8. Also Classic Pitching, Legend

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                            • countryboy
                              Growing pains
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52723

                              #119
                              Re: I'm gonna say it & it might ruffle some feathers...

                              Originally posted by IndianSummer


                              I’m certainly not to good at pitching, classic but there is something off on the CPU hitting.
                              Playing on Legend for the first time since I started playing back in 2006.
                              I have CPU contact at 8, power at 6, foul frequency 8 and timing at 10.
                              Player settings are default.


                              Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

                              That’s one game. Try playing the same game with same pitcher multiple times and see the averages.

                              I’m 17 games into my third season and have 143 strikeouts which equates to 8.5 per game. Default legend with meter pitching

                              Starting rotation consists of Julio Urias, Jack Flaherty, Max Fried, and Tyler Glasgow. Not to mention the bullpen


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                              I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                              • IndianSummer
                                Pro
                                • Oct 2020
                                • 750

                                #120
                                Re: I'm gonna say it & it might ruffle some feathers...

                                Originally posted by countryboy
                                That’s one game. Try playing the same game with same pitcher multiple times and see the averages.

                                I’m 17 games into my third season and have 143 strikeouts which equates to 8.5 per game. Default legend with meter pitching

                                Starting rotation consists of Julio Urias, Jack Flaherty, Max Fried, and Tyler Glasgow. Not to mention the bullpen


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                                I have probably played 100+ games and actually I just started my franchise over and that was my first game. For years I have read others having problems with the Show and I have been lucky to have never had them. I’m not sure what is going on this year. A lot of folks having good results, it my be my turn in the barrel. I really don’t know much about the Rays but have connected with them. I just google McClanahan’s stats. He is solid this year. 11-1, ERA 2.23, 93 IP, 100 K.
                                Frustrating for sure.
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