Re: Joe Adcock

[tkovacs1]

Re: Joe Adcock

Yeah, you're right. NOBODY on this forum creates HISTORIC ROSTERS. That's why we have a separate sub-forum just for rosters. You're right, this isn't rocket science.This is why I rarely post anything. Who in their right mind would want to include a player on the 56 Braves who hit over 300 HR's and hit 4 HR's and a 2B in a 9 inn. game. I guess all HISTORIC ROSTER makers should throw in the towel and only use current rosters.

[countryboy]

Re: Joe Adcock

You obviously didn't read my post carefully. The name in question "ADCOCK" is already in the game being used by a minor league pitcher created by SDS studios. If your opinion is that my naming of a REAL player "Joe ADCOCK" somehow violates the ESRB terms, why is Ty Adcock in the Seattle Mariners farm system? This was the only point I was trying to make. SDS can't have it both ways. If my using "ADCOCK" is inappropriate text why is SDS allowed to use the exact same name. Your argument is invalid.

I read your post.

Its because the word **** is blocked from being typed out in certain instances. I understand and agree its silly that name is in the game and also blocked from being typed out by the end user.

My whole point is that the ESRB has a hand in what is and isn't allowed to be typed, shown, displayed, etc...within any one video game based on the rating that its given or is seeking to achieve.

[jcar0725]

Re: Joe Adcock

Yeah, you're right. NOBODY on this forum creates HISTORIC ROSTERS. That's why we have a separate sub-forum just for rosters. You're right, this isn't rocket science.This is why I rarely post anything. Who in their right mind would want to include a player on the 56 Braves who hit over 300 HR's and hit 4 HR's and a 2B in a 9 inn. game. I guess all HISTORIC ROSTER makers should throw in the towel and only use current rosters.

I think you're whiffing on the point but its all good.

[tkovacs1]

Re: Joe Adcock

I read your post.

Its because the word **** is blocked from being typed out in certain instances. I understand and agree its silly that name is in the game and also blocked from being typed out by the end user.

My whole point is that the ESRB has a hand in what is and isn't allowed to be typed, shown, displayed, etc...within any one video game based on the rating that its given or is seeking to achieve.

Countryboy, I've been reading your posts for many years now. I respect you and your opinion. I just disagree that what I do offline is somehow the business of SDS or ESRB. The roster I am working on will not be published. No one outside of my wife will ever view it. How this is anybody's concern is beyond me. All I was trying to do was make an accurate roster. I guess SDS doesn't understand who is actually playing their games. Thanks for not unloading on me. At least you were being reasonable. For that I thank you.

[Ghost Of The Year]

Re: Joe Adcock

Probably the rational for the reason you can't create certain names even offline, if they let you do that, then there's nothing stopping someone else from then streaming video of it to say youtube, then having offensive material out their in MLB and The Show's image. Its a shame when a few bad apples spoil the bunch.

[Funkycorm]

Re: Joe Adcock

Yeah, you're right. NOBODY on this forum creates HISTORIC ROSTERS. That's why we have a separate sub-forum just for rosters. You're right, this isn't rocket science.This is why I rarely post anything. Who in their right mind would want to include a player on the 56 Braves who hit over 300 HR's and hit 4 HR's and a 2B in a 9 inn. game. I guess all HISTORIC ROSTER makers should throw in the towel and only use current rosters.

I hear you. I have a lot of respect for the custom historical roster makers but I think a common misconception (and may not be on your part) is what percentage of players are here or even download rosters.

Assuming that MLB sold about 2 million copies and that is 2 million players, the top rosters still only get around 15000 downloads. Historic rosters probably closer to 5000. We are talking about 0.3-0.5 percent of the total user base. While I have huge reverance for the roster makers, the total downloads is a small percent of the overall player base.

There are likely only about 500 or so players on here so OS is a very small percentage of the overall fan base. I said before, but even Facebook, reddit, and X are just the vocal minority.

MLB and SDS have to consider the bigger player base and censor words, even if there is something added to it. NBA censors the word class because a$$ is in it. It's the bigger population of players that they have to worry about. Those other names are in the game because they are part of the name and not the word by itself.

The images are likely not monitored by SDS unless reported. The words they can program in not to be there.

[tkovacs1]

Re: Joe Adcock

Funkycorn, Thanks for the support. You make some valid points showing a lot of research. You obviously are educated. One thing I wish to make clear about this issue. I wasn't referring to The SHOW users who use the VAULT. I was talking about users like myself who create rosters to use privately. You mention download totals, but this doesn't include users like myself who do not upload or download. There has also been renewed interest lately with the Negro League inclusion in The SHOW. These players would also be classified as Historical players. Wouldn't you think SDS would be thrilled to have a new user base who had an interest in other stars from the past. For me today's game is not baseball. Baseball is a game with 9 players in the lineup, not 10. I do not believe in the extra inning rule either or any other rules that were recently added.

[DonkeyJote]

Re: Joe Adcock

Funkycorn, Thanks for the support. You make some valid points showing a lot of research. You obviously are educated. One thing I wish to make clear about this issue. I wasn't referring to The SHOW users who use the VAULT. I was talking about users like myself who create rosters to use privately. You mention download totals, but this doesn't include users like myself who do not upload or download. There has also been renewed interest lately with the Negro League inclusion in The SHOW. These players would also be classified as Historical players. Wouldn't you think SDS would be thrilled to have a new user base who had an interest in other stars from the past. For me today's game is not baseball. Baseball is a game with 9 players in the lineup, not 10. I do not believe in the extra inning rule either or any other rules that were recently added.

It's a LOT simpler for them to have the filter work when you're editing rosters rather than checking on upload. If they checked on upload, that would suck for creators who upload, since they'd probably have no idea which name was actually the problem. And they aren't going to have one roster editing tool for people who are going to upload, and another for people who aren't, since any file can be uploaded.

As far as them reaching a new audience, I seriously doubt there are too many new fans really interested in a pretty good player who made a single All Star team over 60 years ago. We're not exactly talking about a legend of the game here. And I doubt a lot of new fans are the old school fans who don't like the DH (which has been around over 50 years at this point).

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[sportsgamingguy2023]

Re: Joe Adcock

Is this name restriction evident in other sports games like Madden, NHL, NBA2K?

[Scooter3]

Re: Joe Adcock

Interesting , so you're saying if you're not a legend , your name could be erased from the history of baseball?
I don't believe in restrictions of history.
When we watch a live game today we watch none legends playing and contributing alongside modern legends.

I'm not ok with Joe Adcock's name erased and labeled inappropriate by a selected committee who don't have respect or love for the history of baseball.

It's a LOT simpler for them to have the filter work when you're editing rosters rather than checking on upload. If they checked on upload, that would suck for creators who upload, since they'd probably have no idea which name was actually the problem. And they aren't going to have one roster editing tool for people who are going to upload, and another for people who aren't, since any file can be uploaded.

As far as them reaching a new audience, I seriously doubt there are too many new fans really interested in a pretty good player who made a single All Star team over 60 years ago. We're not exactly talking about a legend of the game here. And I doubt a lot of new fans are the old school fans who don't like the DH (which has been around over 50 years at this point).

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[jcar0725]

Re: Joe Adcock

Again I think missing the point. They won't allow a creation of the word "c*ck", that's all it is. Nothing to do with Joe Adcock.

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[Karle]

Re: Joe Adcock

I had the same issue with Jack Glasscock. His name was also deemed inappropriate. He was a pretty good player in the 1890s.

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[Scooter3]

Re: Joe Adcock

I'm focusing on Adcock as a example.
I found Hancock in the audio selections.

Again I think missing the point. They won't allow a creation of the word "c*ck", that's all it is. Nothing to do with Joe Adcock.

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[jcar0725]

Re: Joe Adcock

I'm focusing on Adcock as a example.
I found Hancock in the audio selections. [ATTACH]210419[/ATTACH][ATTACH]210420[/ATTACH]

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Right, it was already in there. Adcock isn't. Right? If I'm not mistaken you can't ADD the name with C.... in it.

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[Scooter3]

Re: Joe Adcock

Right, it was already in there. Adcock isn't. Right? If I'm not mistaken you can't ADD the name with C.... in it.

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The last time Adcock was available was The Show 21.


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