MLB The Show 24 Gameplay Improvements and Trailer Revealed

[MiracleMet718]

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Immediately seeing the screenshot of Josh Hader, unfortunately I pretty much figured pitching mechanics wouldn’t be fixed. An on going graphical animation issues that continues to linger with this series.

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They’ll eventually get it right, but I’d imagine it’s not easy to do mo-cap for pitchers because you aren’t going to get a guy throwing 100% just for a video game. With 2k pulling in animations from real games, the hope is that similar tech can be used for other games so we get much more realistic animations from the individuals themselves.

[MiracleMet718]

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At first that was my thought, but then I realized if the clock hits zero and there is no penalty, then that will look aesthetically awkward. Hopefully Sony has a enough forethought to make it optional. Like the way they do with balks. I like the idea of balks but at the end of the day I have to option it OFF since the computer isn't going to ever be penalized.

There is no way the pitch clock will have any impact on the game. The CPU throws within 7 seconds. It’s be a user thing only if anything and won’t be used online since they make you throw before the pitch clock would run out anyway.

[mdiggitydawg]

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If they did NOT fix the check swing called strike glitch, it's almost a game breaker.. the slightest tap and it's called a strike every time

[baconbits11]

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If they did NOT fix the check swing called strike glitch, it's almost a game breaker.. the slightest tap and it's called a strike every time

No its not. I check swing and it's a coin flip.

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[KnightTemplar]

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If they did NOT fix the check swing called strike glitch, it's almost a game breaker.. the slightest tap and it's called a strike every time

I certainly haven’t mastered it. I’d say 95% of the time I get a strike. Needs a little tuning, imo, but not a game breaker.

[strawberryshortcake]

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They’ll eventually get it right, but I’d imagine it’s not easy to do mo-cap for pitchers because you aren’t going to get a guy throwing 100% just for a video game. With 2k pulling in animations from real games, the hope is that similar tech can be used for other games so we get much more realistic animations from the individuals themselves.

My take is that if they couldn’t get Shohei Othani to actually get the pitching motion down properly (full wind up and stretch) when he was invited down to San Diego studios years ago in mo-cap uniform, then unfortunately I wouldn’t expect them to ever truly get it right in future releases. I guess, it is what it is if they haven’t been able to capture the essence of pitching a baseball up to this point.

Shohei Othani’s pitching motion (wind up/stretch), broadcast view (2 video games, and 2 different baseball leagues: Japan/NPB vs MLB)

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Even with just any college baseball athlete, or anyone here on operation sports, there is a certain way the body forcefully contorts or moves when throwing a pitch whether that be 60 mph or 90 mph. And unfortunately I don’t see it with MLB the Show pitchers — that’s just me. Others may disagree. Highly unlikely that it’ll be any different, but I guess we could always see how it goes when it becomes a PS5/Xbox (whatever number they’re on) exclusive.

[IndianSummer]

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Hold my beer.

Your not going to weigh that beer before you hand it to me are you?

[canes21]

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They’ll eventually get it right, but I’d imagine it’s not easy to do mo-cap for pitchers because you aren’t going to get a guy throwing 100% just for a video game. With 2k pulling in animations from real games, the hope is that similar tech can be used for other games so we get much more realistic animations from the individuals themselves.

This seems more like a rig issue. The Show models can't bend like a real person because they are not built to have the flexibility in certain parts of the body. His torso staying that straight would be a limitation of that.

Even if someone wasn't throwing 100% in a mo-cap session, they'd still have form that led to their body not being as stiff as what you see in The Show, so that's what leads me to believe it's a rigging problem. The issue there means that odds are whenever they update their player rigs/skeletons, they will have to clean up or completely redo any animations in the game.

Also, with mo-cap, you don't just capture the movement and then have a clean animation ready to go. So, even if someone was a little stiff because they weren't throwing 100%, mo-caps still bring in rough animations that get cleaned up and tweaked, so the animators at SDS would have the ability to tweak the animation that was captured and add some more organic movement to it to match a pitcher throwing at full strength if the rig allowed it, so, that also leads me to believe it is just a rigging issue and they either are working behind the scenes on new models with new skeletons and rigs and are getting an updated library of animations for those, or they don't feel like it is necessary to move on from what library they have already built despite the limitations.

I hope the former, fear that it is the latter. As someone else said, if this is still an issue all these years later, it would indicate that it's not going to get fixed or it would have been already.

[marbury]

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Immediately seeing the screenshot of Josh Hader, unfortunately I pretty much figured pitching mechanics wouldn’t be fixed. An on going graphical animation issues that continues to linger with this series.

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You simply make the best comparison videos. I could watch them all day[emoji28]

Let's hope Konami will surprise us with a 20th anniversary gift.

[Bacong]

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My take is that if they couldn’t get Shohei Othani to actually get the pitching motion down properly (full wind up and stretch) when he was invited down to San Diego studios years ago in mo-cap uniform, then unfortunately I wouldn’t expect them to ever truly get it right in future releases. I guess, it is what it is if they haven’t been able to capture the essence of pitching a baseball up to this point.

Shohei Othani’s pitching motion (wind up/stretch), broadcast view (2 video games, and 2 different baseball leagues: Japan/NPB vs MLB)

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Even with just any college baseball athlete, or anyone here on operation sports, there is a certain way the body forcefully contorts or moves when throwing a pitch whether that be 60 mph or 90 mph. And unfortunately I don’t see it with MLB the Show pitchers — that’s just me. Others may disagree. Highly unlikely that it’ll be any different, but I guess we could always see how it goes when it becomes a PS5/Xbox (whatever number they’re on) exclusive.

the pitching motions have been bad in this game for more than a decade. mlb 2k series still has better animations which is pretty wild.

[Stucatz]

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Have a feeling Heidi whatney will make her return to the game. No confirmation just speculation on my part

[bilbobeuli]

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It's embarassing how bad the pitch animations are. It's like playing catch with your kids.


I didn't care 15 years ago during the PS3 cycle, but by now it's just plain laziness.

[mthsgrg32]

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To me the game plays entirely different on that console compare to PS5. Just my opinion though.

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[JayD]

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This is the least excited I've been for an MLB The Show game in a Looooooong time. Hopefully franchise got an overhaul and I'll change my tone......maybe.......please.

[MTLExpos4Ever]

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If they did NOT fix the check swing called strike glitch, it's almost a game breaker.. the slightest tap and it's called a strike every time

I don't see that at all with the Xbox GP version. It may be linked to a certain attribute, but I've seen more upper tier players seemingly getting a break on certain check swing animations what other players don't.