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  • HollaMV7
    Rookie
    • Dec 2013
    • 263

    #271
    Re: Showdown Thread

    Originally posted by Coxatron
    Yeah my bad lol. Left stick
    But still hold R2 right?

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    • papadell
      MVP
      • Mar 2019
      • 4176

      #272
      Re: Showdown Thread

      Originally posted by HollaMV7
      But still hold R2 right?
      Yeah so here's basically all I do:

      Wait for the pitcher to come set. Once they come set completely I hold R2. Then tap L1 to take 2 steps. If you take more than 2 they automatically step off. Once I take the extra steps I hit left stick to the right + L2 to trigger the steal. This is the "normal" steal input. Even with runners on elsewhere it should only send the runner on first.

      I've only been picked off once doing this and it was immediately after trying to take 3 steps. They threw over the next chance and I got picked but it was also with a terrible runner.

      I have been stealing with runners as slow as 65 speed. That's against decent catchers too. Anything 75+ from what I've seen is virtually guaranteed by 4 steps or more.
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      • doubledeuceR6
        Ride on Kentucky Kid
        • Apr 2011
        • 1948

        #273
        Re: Showdown Thread

        I believe the amount of ridiculous defensive plays has been turned up to 11 in the new showdowns. Lol

        Twice in the first mini boss battle against Mariano Rivera made 2 behind the back snags on bullets up the middle. It was quite impressive actually. Lol.
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        • buziii
          Rookie
          • Mar 2012
          • 399

          #274
          Re: Showdown Thread

          Originally posted by doubledeuceR6
          Twice in the first mini boss battle against Mariano Rivera made 2 behind the back snags on bullets up the middle. It was quite impressive actually. Lol.
          I actually think this is a thing for MLBTS20 in all modes, compared to 19. I've noticed the pitchers have become an impenetrable wall. I rarely get a groundball hit up the middle this year. The pitcher collects those like a magnet this year, no matter the velo.

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          • buziii
            Rookie
            • Mar 2012
            • 399

            #275
            Re: Showdown Thread

            Originally posted by Coxatron
            Yeah so here's basically all I do:

            Wait for the pitcher to come set. Once they come set completely I hold R2. Then tap L1 to take 2 steps. If you take more than 2 they automatically step off. Once I take the extra steps I hit left stick to the right + L2 to trigger the steal. This is the "normal" steal input. Even with runners on elsewhere it should only send the runner on first.

            I've only been picked off once doing this and it was immediately after trying to take 3 steps. They threw over the next chance and I got picked but it was also with a terrible runner.

            I have been stealing with runners as slow as 65 speed. That's against decent catchers too. Anything 75+ from what I've seen is virtually guaranteed by 4 steps or more.
            Whoa! This could be a game changer for me in Showdown. I hit into a LOT of DPs and it's a killer!

            I quit early on even leading off 1st or 2nd this year, and I never attempt a steal. I was getting picked off most every time I tried early on, so I quit even taking a lead.

            I'm not sure I fully understand your method, so I need to practice it in another mode before I try it in Showdown.

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            • papadell
              MVP
              • Mar 2019
              • 4176

              #276
              Re: Showdown Thread

              Originally posted by buziii
              Whoa! This could be a game changer for me in Showdown. I hit into a LOT of DPs and it's a killer!

              I quit early on even leading off 1st or 2nd this year, and I never attempt a steal. I was getting picked off most every time I tried early on, so I quit even taking a lead.

              I'm not sure I fully understand your method, so I need to practice it in another mode before I try it in Showdown.
              Holding R2 just keeps them from pitching. You wait for them to come completely set before holding R2 so they don't throw over. I guess in a sense it locks them into the animation to go to the plate. You just take 2 steps to get the best lead possible and then steal. Piece of cake.

              Also agree with everyone who said AL feels more difficult. To me, pitch speeds seem faster in AL vs NL and I can't explain why. I always have trouble adjusting down to Veteran but in this run of the AL I've been late multiple times. Pitch speeds overall just seem different than what I would expect and definitely seem different than the NL. It's the first time in the new Showdowns I've failed multiple moments leading into the final battle.

              I'm still going in with 9 runs but it definitely felt more difficult. Not a bad thing or anything since overall these are easier and more enjoyable than the first batch but noticeable.
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              • buziii
                Rookie
                • Mar 2012
                • 399

                #277
                Re: Showdown Thread

                I just drafted a new NL Showdown run. The final boss will be a Red. I haven't seen one mentioned. I guess I can assume it's the Future Star lefty Lodolo?

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                • papadell
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2019
                  • 4176

                  #278
                  Re: Showdown Thread

                  Originally posted by buziii
                  I just drafted a new NL Showdown run. The final boss will be a Red. I haven't seen one mentioned. I guess I can assume it's the Future Star lefty Lodolo?
                  Most likely. I've seen Maddux and Rivera but most have been the Future Stars.
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                  • buziii
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 399

                    #279
                    Re: Showdown Thread

                    Ugh...I don't hit lefties well....or righties either....but lefties are worse!

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                    • papadell
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2019
                      • 4176

                      #280
                      Re: Showdown Thread

                      I don't really struggle vs a particular handedness but after saying earlier that the AL felt like faster pitch speeds, for whatever reason Brady Singer felt SLOW AS ****. I was so far out in front of that dude it was pissing me off. His sinker felt like a changeup with crazy drop to it and even when he'd run a 94 mph heater I was so far in front. This is the crazy inconsistency in timing that bothers me. I just don't see how it makes sense for it to be this whacky. Maybe it was a way for them to bake in more of a skill gap but it just doesn't feel right. Idk. So tip to anyone facing Singer: stay back an extra tick.

                      My last draft was weird. Maybe the AL is just loaded on OF but I feel like every viable pick I had was an OF. I didn't really have too many moments where it prevented me from just stacking offense but I definitely had a couple where I had to keep a ****ty bench player in order to have them play the field.
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                      • bcruise
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 23274

                        #281
                        Re: Showdown Thread

                        Singer is low-mid 90's tops according to his card so that sounds about right. Don't most of the bosses throw upper 90's or higher (and some with outliers)? There should be a difference in perceived speed there.
                        Last edited by bcruise; 04-27-2020, 07:47 PM.

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                        • doubledeuceR6
                          Ride on Kentucky Kid
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 1948

                          #282
                          Re: Showdown Thread

                          Originally posted by Coxatron
                          I don't really struggle vs a particular handedness but after saying earlier that the AL felt like faster pitch speeds, for whatever reason Brady Singer felt SLOW AS ****. I was so far out in front of that dude it was pissing me off. His sinker felt like a changeup with crazy drop to it and even when he'd run a 94 mph heater I was so far in front. This is the crazy inconsistency in timing that bothers me. I just don't see how it makes sense for it to be this whacky. Maybe it was a way for them to bake in more of a skill gap but it just doesn't feel right. Idk. So tip to anyone facing Singer: stay back an extra tick.

                          My last draft was weird. Maybe the AL is just loaded on OF but I feel like every viable pick I had was an OF. I didn't really have too many moments where it prevented me from just stacking offense but I definitely had a couple where I had to keep a ****ty bench player in order to have them play the field.
                          Yea Singer took me 5 or 6 outs before I figured him out. I couldn't lay off the slurve. Once I layed off that he started bringing the ball up. Hit him pretty hard after that.

                          The next one I did I faced Snell as the first mini boss. Scored 1 run in 12 outs. Lol He's just one of those guys I don't see well at all.
                          Last edited by doubledeuceR6; 04-27-2020, 07:54 PM.
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                          • papadell
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2019
                            • 4176

                            #283
                            Re: Showdown Thread

                            Originally posted by bcruise
                            Singer is low-mid 90's tops according to his card so that sounds about right. Don't most of the bosses throw upper 90's or higher (and some with outliers)? There should be a difference in perceived speed there.
                            Oh for sure. Even on Kopech and Pearson I was early. I beat pitches to the spot and then I'm just so far in front. On those guys I can adjust quicker because it's a couple ticks slower than HoF and Legend and I can pump it back quicker. On dude's like Singer I just struggle to slow my bat down for some reason and then press. I don't even feel like I had trouble picking the ball up with his hurky jerky delivery, either. I just couldn't time him until a bit into the run.
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                            • mikeq672
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 1761

                              #284
                              Re: Showdown Thread

                              Originally posted by Coxatron
                              I don't really struggle vs a particular handedness but after saying earlier that the AL felt like faster pitch speeds, for whatever reason Brady Singer felt SLOW AS ****. I was so far out in front of that dude it was pissing me off. His sinker felt like a changeup with crazy drop to it and even when he'd run a 94 mph heater I was so far in front. This is the crazy inconsistency in timing that bothers me. I just don't see how it makes sense for it to be this whacky. Maybe it was a way for them to bake in more of a skill gap but it just doesn't feel right. Idk. So tip to anyone facing Singer: stay back an extra tick.

                              My last draft was weird. Maybe the AL is just loaded on OF but I feel like every viable pick I had was an OF. I didn't really have too many moments where it prevented me from just stacking offense but I definitely had a couple where I had to keep a ****ty bench player in order to have them play the field.
                              Same thing happened to me in regards to outfielders. my final roster ended up having like 7 outfielders in it.

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                              • buziii
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 399

                                #285
                                Re: Showdown Thread

                                Originally posted by Coxatron
                                Holding R2 just keeps them from pitching. You wait for them to come completely set before holding R2 so they don't throw over. I guess in a sense it locks them into the animation to go to the plate. You just take 2 steps to get the best lead possible and then steal. Piece of cake.
                                OK. I just tried this several times in a Conquest game. I've stolen a bunch of bases, including with Josh Donaldson (29 speed). I feel dirty.

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