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  • Segagendude
    Banned
    • Aug 2008
    • 7940

    #1516
    Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

    Once in a while, yes, that's acceptable. But it's happened to me in six games so far. Pretty decent leads going into the eighth and ninth innings, only to have them evaporate and lose the game.
    All of a sudden, the hits accumulate off whomever I put on the mound, and the errors mount up.
    And yes, the comeback option is OFF.
    There's a couple threads here already based on this comeback AI logic, so I don't think it's just me.
    I really love the game, but it's getting frustrating knowing that absolutely NO lead is safe, unless I somehow have a score of say 18-0........ha.

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    • OSUFan_88
      Outback Jesus
      • Jul 2004
      • 25642

      #1517
      Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

      Originally posted by Segagendude
      Once in a while, yes, that's acceptable. But it's happened to me in six games so far. Pretty decent leads going into the eighth and ninth innings, only to have them evaporate and lose the game.
      All of a sudden, the hits accumulate off whomever I put on the mound, and the errors mount up.
      And yes, the comeback option is OFF.
      There's a couple threads here already based on this comeback AI logic, so I don't think it's just me.
      I really love the game, but it's getting frustrating knowing that absolutely NO lead is safe, unless I somehow have a score of say 18-0........ha.
      Maybe you just need to get better at the game then.

      Honest to God, I haven't seen any such comeback AI in this game. Usually when the AI comes back, it's because my pitcher is losing his control or power on the pitch. My guess is that people don't know what happens in the late innings with a pitcher, and they don't realize the loss of control.
      Too Old To Game Club

      Urban Meyer is lol.

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      • Segagendude
        Banned
        • Aug 2008
        • 7940

        #1518
        Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

        Originally posted by OSUFan_88
        Maybe you just need to get better at the game then.

        Honest to God, I haven't seen any such comeback AI in this game. Usually when the AI comes back, it's because my pitcher is losing his control or power on the pitch. My guess is that people don't know what happens in the late innings with a pitcher, and they don't realize the loss of control.
        I knew that was coming. And about pitchers-----this happens AFTER I pull my starter and go to the pen. And yes, my RP's are always warmed up first. And yes, I pitch whatever the catcher tells me to. And yes, I usually hit the pitch location spot on. And yes, I use full power on pitches. And yes, the CPU tees off on me almost every time.
        Again, I'm not the only one. There's other threads here talking about this.

        *back to topic* (And sorry for drifting off)

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        • wsu_gb23
          Banned
          • Feb 2008
          • 1641

          #1519
          Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

          Originally posted by Segagendude
          I knew that was coming. And about pitchers-----this happens AFTER I pull my starter and go to the pen. And yes, my RP's are always warmed up first. And yes, I pitch whatever the catcher tells me to. And yes, I usually hit the pitch location spot on. And yes, I use full power on pitches. And yes, the CPU tees off on me almost every time.
          Again, I'm not the only one. There's other threads here talking about this.

          *back to topic* (And sorry for drifting off)
          maybe you shouldn't pitch what the catcher tells you to all the time. I like to come up with my own array of pitches to fool the hitter, not from an AI catcher...your catcher is probably in on the so-called "comeback logic."

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          • ehh
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 28959

            #1520
            Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

            Originally posted by Segagendude
            I knew that was coming. And about pitchers-----this happens AFTER I pull my starter and go to the pen. And yes, my RP's are always warmed up first. And yes, I pitch whatever the catcher tells me to. And yes, I usually hit the pitch location spot on. And yes, I use full power on pitches. And yes, the CPU tees off on me almost every time.
            Again, I'm not the only one. There's other threads here talking about this.

            *back to topic* (And sorry for drifting off)
            How good are your relievers? Most teams these days have awful bullpens. Rivera is the only consistent guy for me in the Yanks pen, everyone else is a crapshoot.
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            • Skyboxer
              Donny Baseball!
              • Jul 2002
              • 20302

              #1521
              Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

              Originally posted by ehh
              How good are your relievers? Most teams these days have awful bullpens. Rivera is the only consistent guy for me in the Yanks pen, everyone else is a crapshoot.
              Got that right. I know Bruney is on the path to the bye bye bus....
              Ramirez and Marte have been pretty good though...
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              • Pared
                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                • Feb 2003
                • 39337

                #1522
                Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

                Originally posted by Segagendude
                I knew that was coming. And about pitchers-----this happens AFTER I pull my starter and go to the pen. And yes, my RP's are always warmed up first. And yes, I pitch whatever the catcher tells me to. And yes, I usually hit the pitch location spot on. And yes, I use full power on pitches. And yes, the CPU tees off on me almost every time.
                Again, I'm not the only one. There's other threads here talking about this.

                *back to topic* (And sorry for drifting off)
                You sound like a Mets fan last year.

                Either your relievers are terrible or you're not managing them effectively. This goes for the "other threads talking about this" as well. People always want to place blame on the game when it really has nothing to do with them...

                Here's a question: what are you doing when you bring in the pen? Whatever it is, don't do it. Change what you're doing and see if that works for you.
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                • Skyboxer
                  Donny Baseball!
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 20302

                  #1523
                  Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

                  Personally I have my game set up that I am not "Pinpointing" pitches. Yeah the elite will do better than most but being able to pinpoint every pitch isn't what I want. I'm getting good amount of walks etc... I love it when I walk batters.

                  Anyways I think that just because they (RP's) are warmed up there are different stages of it. Just warm up to fully warm. If I was a betting man I'd say the better warmed up they are the better they will perform right away in the game.
                  I may be wrong but that's how I run my team and it's my way or the highway...


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                  • Pared
                    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #1524
                    Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

                    I've even brought guys in cold and can get by. Poor management by me.

                    But when you need that lefty specialist against a lefty power hitter, you bring him in. Use a mound visit and get him as many extra pitches as you can.
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                    • Skyboxer
                      Donny Baseball!
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 20302

                      #1525
                      Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

                      Originally posted by Pared
                      I've even brought guys in cold and can get by. Poor management by me.

                      But when you need that lefty specialist against a lefty power hitter, you bring him in. Use a mound visit and get him as many extra pitches as you can.
                      Same here lol I've been so into a few games that when it came time to bring in a RP I realized CRAP! I didn't get anyone up. So I bring a sacrificial lamb in to buy time to get someone warmed up. Had good results and bad results.
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                      • Gary Armida
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 2533

                        #1526
                        Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

                        Originally posted by Skyboxer


                        I haven't dropped from Legend yet. I may but I simply love the challenge. I'm currently sitting in 3rd place at 8-6 with my Yankees. I'm sure on All Star (The level I would be playing) I would probably be a couple games better at least but it's still fun as heck on legend especially because I'm throwing walks and getting walks and nursing a late game lead is simply stressful and exciting when you get that critical DP or pop out.
                        Same here...same franchise. As I said earlier, I am 1-3. I keep thinking about dropping from legend, but I don't feel I've lost unfairly. If I missed a pitch or tried to "Muscle up" on a pitch (filling the meter), then I get pounded. Late innings are stressfull...as I believe they are in the real thing.

                        Originally posted by wsu_gb23
                        maybe you shouldn't pitch what the catcher tells you to all the time. I like to come up with my own array of pitches to fool the hitter, not from an AI catcher...your catcher is probably in on the so-called "comeback logic."
                        Yeah, I like to usually go with the pitch called, but my own location. That's why I love the new pitchcall with just the catcher giving signs.

                        Originally posted by Skyboxer
                        Got that right. I know Bruney is on the path to the bye bye bus....
                        Ramirez and Marte have been pretty good though...
                        Bruney and Giese have been brutal for me. They'll be down to Scranton after the KC series. Edwar stinks for me too, but I am still learning how to use his changeup. Only Marte, Veras, and Rivera have been great.
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                        • ehh
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 28959

                          #1527
                          Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

                          Originally posted by Skyboxer
                          Got that right. I know Bruney is on the path to the bye bye bus....
                          Ramirez and Marte have been pretty good though...
                          It's very nice to see, especially after years of Kyle Farnsworth leading the videogame world in reliever ERA. He was unstoppable in so many games in the last few years but nothing special in real life. Bout time middle relievers who suck IRL suck in video games.
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                          • OSUFan_88
                            Outback Jesus
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 25642

                            #1528
                            Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

                            Originally posted by Segagendude
                            And yes, I usually hit the pitch location spot on. And yes, I use full power on pitches.
                            And that is where you are going wrong. Full Power on pitches = less control on your pitches.

                            You may get maximum movement on them, but what good is a 4 seem fastball if you chuck it over the plate.

                            So, I would say that you need to find a happy medium of speed and control instead of loading up on every pitch and trying to strike everyone out, especially with runners on the bases.
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                            • wsu_gb23
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 1641

                              #1529
                              Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

                              does anyone play on HOF? In my opinion, that is the level that comes closest to real baseball. Some games I get shutout by the other team's ace, some games I get 13 hits and win 5-2. I see a big variety of scores on this level.

                              One game, Cliff Lee (me) didn't make it out of the 7th inning and had 115 pitches. I was walking guys all over the place. It was good to see because I wasn't trying to nibble that much. He just lost his control.

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                              • RogueHominid
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 10900

                                #1530
                                Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

                                Originally posted by wsu_gb23
                                does anyone play on HOF? In my opinion, that is the level that comes closest to real baseball. Some games I get shutout by the other team's ace, some games I get 13 hits and win 5-2. I see a big variety of scores on this level.

                                One game, Cliff Lee (me) didn't make it out of the 7th inning and had 115 pitches. I was walking guys all over the place. It was good to see because I wasn't trying to nibble that much. He just lost his control.
                                I'm playing on HOF, and am 2-0 in my Dodgers franchise. The first game I won 2-1, and the second I won 5-0.

                                The first win was a great example for me of there not being any hard comeback code in the game. I was up 2-0 in the 9th, brought in Broxton, mowed the first 2 guys down, then gave up 2 straight hits. It looked like they were going to break it open, but Broxton battled back and struck the last guy out for the win.

                                The only problem I'm having is that I've struck out 11 and 10 times respectively. I think I can improve there, but other than that, it feels really good.

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