MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

**Maynard** · 03-11-2009, 09:13 AM

Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

Originally posted by ~Guru~

Ok....this is getting pathetic now

tied game in legend mode

1-1 in the ninth inning

i am the yankees on the road vs the sox

the sox have the winning run on second and 2 outs

Youk hits a sharp single to left i am charging in to get the ball and fire home to cut the runner down or hold him at third

everything is going fine when i am charging the ball...then all of a sudden the game takes over with one of these horrible new angle animations towards the ball...and Swisher does this little slow stop and fields the ball with this lazy approach...i fire it to home but he throws one of those casual i cant control throws home and the runner scores....

wtf...if the animation did not take over...that guy was a dead duck at home...the ball was hit way to hard for him to score...

i even replayed it....this is horrible...why did SCEA take more control of fielding this year...I am so pissed right now...those new outfielder animations do nothing but help the cpu....

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But even worse for me is the IF missing balls that they should get. I wont say they are all routine, but if these plays were missed in real life by an MLB player, that player would be in A ball really fast. <o></o>
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here is 1 example. I have a grounder hit between first and second and my 2<sup>nd</sup> basemen only needs to move a few steps towards first to make the grab. But instead of getting the ball is mysteriously goes under his glove or hops past him. I manually control the fielders and should not be having an issue making these plays in my franchise. <o></o>
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In RTTS its 100 times worse. I am a pitcher and have no control over the fielders. Last night was my first time playing RTTS this year and im in spring training with the Indians. I was freaking out over how many times the IF would dive for a grounder and it would get by them. I looked at 5 different replays and couldn’t believe what I was seeing. They would dive over the ball. You could see on the replay that they would be in a prone position and the ball would be under their belly area. <o></o>
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When you dive for a ball the idea is to use your glove to snag the ball or knock it down, or even use your arms or something to smother the ball. These guys were jumping over the ball and while in mid air the ball would roll right under them

I agree that SCEA has taken to much control away from the player and given it to the cpu. I wish they had an option for Auto/Assist/Manual with manual dumping all the canned animations when fielding. Let me go field it myself and determine if i hard charge and gun the ball, or make a slow stroll and lazy throw!<o></o>

**Jackdog** · 03-11-2009, 09:40 AM

Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

Originally posted by rudyjuly2

Can you let me know how many errors you have committed in total?
Thanks.

P.S. Dynamic attendance is pretty cool.

After 35 games my team has 21 errors.

**~Guru~** · 03-11-2009, 09:52 AM

I am so glad you see this issue to Maynard. I am expecting to hear from most today. " I have yet to see this"

Is frustrating me to no end and is killing my joy. The game does so much well but the bad it does is inexcusable and if you put MANUAL as an option then let it mean that

**rudyjuly2** · 03-11-2009, 09:56 AM

Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

Originally posted by Jackdog

After 35 games my team has 21 errors.

That's really good. Cinci was lousy at defense last year (committed 114 of them which translates to 24.6 over 35 games). What level do you play at and what is your fielding error slider? I don't think I'll come close to 21 errors over a whole season from what I'm seeing on All-Star.

How on earth have you played 35 games already in a season?! That's a ton!

**Maynard** · 03-11-2009, 10:05 AM

Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

Originally posted by ~Guru~

I am so glad you see this issue to Maynard. I am expecting to hear from most today. " I have yet to see this"

Is frustrating me to no end and is killing my joy. The game does so much well but the bad it does is inexcusable and if you put MANUAL as an option then let it mean that

i been seeing alot of fielding issues and its the type of stuff that is also hurting my fun for the game. plus all the bugs this year stand out because they actually effect a persons ability to properly handle their team. The lineup issue and the DL issue really stand out

i hope most of this is stuff that can be patched

**Jackdog** · 03-11-2009, 10:29 AM

Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

Originally posted by rudyjuly2

That's really good. Cinci was lousy at defense last year (committed 114 of them which translates to 24.6 over 35 games). What level do you play at and what is your fielding error slider? I don't think I'll come close to 21 errors over a whole season from what I'm seeing on All-Star.

How on earth have you played 35 games already in a season?! That's a ton!

I'm addicted.

I'm playing on HOF with throwing and fielding errors maxed out. Edwin has accounted for half of my errors. LOL!

**rudyjuly2** · 03-11-2009, 10:47 AM

Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

Originally posted by Jackdog

I'm addicted.

I'm playing on HOF with throwing and fielding errors maxed out. Edwin has accounted for half of my errors. LOL!

I'm addicted too!

There was another thread where someone was seeing the same thing as me on All-Star. Is it possible that this is only related to the difficulty level? How are your fielder reaction times on HOF with the fielding error slider maxed out? Do balls ever go through them or right by them and you curse because they didn't make a play on the ball?

**Pared** · 03-11-2009, 10:59 AM

Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

Originally posted by ODogg

Is there a huge difference when you nail it in the little white line? I almost am never able to hit that tiny line. Especially when I'm drinking Budweiser left and right.

Try not drinking so much?

There isn't a huge difference, but if you get familiar with the meter you can actually use it your advantage. For example, on a fastball, if you hit the meter EARLY then the ball sails high. Hit it afterwards and the ball sails low.

Originally posted by Maynard

i been seeing alot of fielding issues and its the type of stuff that is also hurting my fun for the game

i hope most of this is stuff that can be patched

These aren't fielding issues. They are by design to simulate how an outfielder slows up when approaching a ball hit to them. Otherwise, realistically, they'd overrun the ball.

**rudyjuly2** · 03-11-2009, 11:04 AM

Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

Originally posted by Pared

These aren't fielding issues. They are by design to simulate how an outfielder slows up when approaching a ball hit to them. Otherwise, realistically, they'd overrun the ball.

I don't have a problem with the animation to pick up the ball at an appropriate speed and angle in the outfield. What difficulty are you playing Pared?

**Pared** · 03-11-2009, 11:06 AM

Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

I'm flip-flopping between All-Star and HOF. I like the challenge Legend brings but after a long day's work I don't have the energy needed to invest in beating the Giants.

And I still love the offset camera angle. Funny thing is, I've always hated it until now. MVP had it but this one just looks much better.

**michaeldu** · 03-11-2009, 11:17 AM

Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

I think HOF is the best level to play on. I have beat The Pirates 5-2 and the Mariners 7-3, but I can't beat the Redsox. So there is my challenge. Playing average teams I can beat or at least hang tough with and playing one of the leagues elite teams, which to this point I can't. You really have to concentrate and have a strategy when you play the best teams.

**wsu_gb23** · 03-11-2009, 11:52 AM

Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

I think there are way too many 3rd strikes that get by the catcher, and too many passed balls and wild pitches in general...the catcher literally cannot stop anything that hits the dirt...this needs to be fixed.

**wsu_gb23** · 03-11-2009, 12:02 PM

Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

Originally posted by michaeldu

I think HOF is the best level to play on. I have beat The Pirates 5-2 and the Mariners 7-3, but I can't beat the Redsox. So there is my challenge. Playing average teams I can beat or at least hang tough with and playing one of the leagues elite teams, which to this point I can't. You really have to concentrate and have a strategy when you play the best teams.

agreed...HOF represents real baseball. I am the Braves and I am 0-2. I lost 2-1 in 10 innings and 3-1. Both to the Phillies. Strong starting pitching on both sides.

**rudyjuly2** · 03-11-2009, 12:32 PM

Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

The best difficulty level is highly related to your skill set. For good players HOF might be best. For average players it might be All-Star. Veteran might be the best for many as well. I really don't see how anyone can truly claim one difficulty level is better than another when so much of the experience depends on the user's skill level.

I could play Legend, get killed by 10 runs every game and say "All-Star is best! Legend is crap!" Then I can get a guy like Nemesis or Skyboxer playing on Legend and getting good scores and outcomes. They try All-Star and kill the cpu by 10. They scream "Legend is best! All-Star sucks!" There is no right answer here.

I know you have a hard time understanding that wsu_gb23 since you think there should only be one difficulty level and no sliders (your own blog: http://www.osatwork.com/wsu_gb23/blo...s-and-sliders/) but most people would hate that.

**kingdevin** · 03-11-2009, 12:33 PM

Re: MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

Originally posted by Pared

You sound like a Mets fan last year.

Either your relievers are terrible or you're not managing them effectively. This goes for the "other threads talking about this" as well. People always want to place blame on the game when it really has nothing to do with them...

Here's a question: what are you doing when you bring in the pen? Whatever it is, don't do it. Change what you're doing and see if that works for you.

Pared,
I watch CPU v CPU games on exhibition (Rookie-HOF - not MOM ). Therefore, I have no input during the game. What I've noticed (I've watched at least 2-3 games a day since 3/4/09) is that more often than not games are decided by one run. I have noticed the CPU rally on itself such that many times the games go into x-tra innings or one team squeaks it out in the 9th. It is not common to see a greater disparity of ranges in score. That is the issue I have. Therefore, there is something in the programming allowing for rallys/momentum - understandable. It just seems that the more games i watch, the more that there is less range in the score. All that to say, there may be some merit to what others are saying. However, as a person that plays there is a greater chance to not have that happen since there is direct involvement. I think that there should be a adjustment to how the momentum is programmed so that the CPU doesnt regularly match itself tit for tat. Perhaps that would help the issue that does seem to affect a decent number of gamers.

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