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    Fear The Spear
    • Apr 2011
    • 10346

    #1456
    Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

    Originally posted by SassJones
    I was shopping Ryan Theriot around looking for either a 2B or SS back up mainly cuz im just not a fan of Theriot and I can across the most ridiculous deal I've seen yet. I can trade Theriot for Brandon Phillips straight up. If I go thru with it they won't take Phillips back for Theriot so they must really want him or something, I just can't understand why the trade is even possible. And with a rookie at 2B it makes it so hard to not go thru with it.
    that's as unrealistic as it gets
    Steelers | Seminoles | A's | Rockets | Avalanche | Wildcats, Hoosiers | Liverpool

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    • SassJones
      Rookie
      • Oct 2010
      • 47

      #1457
      Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

      Totally agree it's unrealistic, just posted it on here so I could express my shock to others lol.

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      • pootytang
        Rookie
        • Jul 2011
        • 116

        #1458
        Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

        Any idea what I could get for David Price in my fantasy draft franchise? Near the deadline, with a 2.96 ERA.

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        • coolguy124
          Banned
          • Aug 2011
          • 588

          #1459
          Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

          Originally posted by pootytang
          Any idea what I could get for David Price in my fantasy draft franchise? Near the deadline, with a 2.96 ERA.
          prospect wise then 2 a's and a b

          mlb ready wise

          bat=to michael cuddyer
          rp=to matt guerrer
          sp=to carl pavano

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          • Pete_Dogg_18
            Rookie
            • Apr 2011
            • 257

            #1460
            Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

            Originally posted by pootytang
            Any idea what I could get for David Price in my fantasy draft franchise? Near the deadline, with a 2.96 ERA.
            I'm going to assume your out of contention, and thats why your shipping your Ace, but I would want a young mlb ready pitcher, Mike Leake or Homer Bailey type pitcher and then 2 A/B prospects at postions that you need some depth, i.e if you have an aging shortstop and no replacement, get a A pot SS...
            RED SOX NATION!!!!

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            • FSanchez12
              Rookie
              • Jun 2007
              • 469

              #1461
              Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

              Originally posted by Pete_Dogg_18
              I'm going to assume your out of contention, and thats why your shipping your Ace, but I would want a young mlb ready pitcher, Mike Leake or Homer Bailey type pitcher and then 2 A/B prospects at postions that you need some depth, i.e if you have an aging shortstop and no replacement, get a A pot SS...
              This, you want a young player with a slight upside that can step right into his place at the deadline. Then get a few prospects to go with it.

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              • pootytang
                Rookie
                • Jul 2011
                • 116

                #1462
                Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

                Originally posted by Pete_Dogg_18
                I'm going to assume your out of contention, and thats why your shipping your Ace, but I would want a young mlb ready pitcher, Mike Leake or Homer Bailey type pitcher and then 2 A/B prospects at postions that you need some depth, i.e if you have an aging shortstop and no replacement, get a A pot SS...
                No I'm in 1st. Best record in the AL. I have Mike Leake and Homer Bailey plus Machado, Trout, Wheeler, Banuelos, Cosart, Chatwood, Minor, White and Britton.

                I have the 26th rated defense and am really slow.

                He's also not my Ace either.
                Last edited by pootytang; 08-14-2011, 08:41 PM.

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                • iamthepro
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 426

                  #1463
                  Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

                  Originally posted by Pete_Dogg_18
                  So you found one trade that wouldn't happen and the whole system is shot, don't get me wrong the system does need some work, but you have no idea of what trades would/ wouldn't happen in real life, just because it is not likely to happen doesn't mean it wouldn't, you only have to take a look back to realise that, just like the CPU in mlb the show, real life GM's can make some boneheaded decision in the heat of trade deadline mania...

                  Giants get
                  C A.J Pierzynski

                  Twins get
                  P Francisco Lirano
                  P Joe Nathan
                  P Boof Bonsor


                  Chicago gets
                  Larry Bowa
                  Ryne Sandberg

                  Phillies get
                  Ivan DeJesus

                  Those are just a couple of examples from plenty, just because the CPU does some bad trades, doesn't mean they aren't possible in real life...
                  Dont remind me

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                  • Pete_Dogg_18
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 257

                    #1464
                    Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

                    Originally posted by pootytang
                    No I'm in 1st. Best record in the AL. I have Mike Leake and Homer Bailey plus Machado, Trout, Wheeler, Banuelos, Cosart, Chatwood, Minor, White and Britton.

                    I have the 26th rated defense and am really slow.

                    He's also not my Ace either.
                    Then why ship Price??? I'd be packaging some of those prospects for Speed/Defensive help to make a playoff push...

                    It would depend on what postion you were after but here's a few ideas

                    C - Yadier Molina; best defensive C in the game, McCann;good young soild C

                    Middle Infield - Pedroia, Phillips, Reyes, Roberts etc, plenty of choices here to boost Def and/or Speed

                    Outfield - Crawford, Ellsbury, Granderson, Jackson etc...

                    Based on what you have told me, you have prospects to spare so put together a decent package of them and you should be able to get 1 or 2 really good players to boost your speed and defense...
                    RED SOX NATION!!!!

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                    • pootytang
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 116

                      #1465
                      Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

                      Originally posted by Pete_Dogg_18
                      Then why ship Price??? I'd be packaging some of those prospects for Speed/Defensive help to make a playoff push...

                      It would depend on what postion you were after but here's a few ideas

                      C - Yadier Molina; best defensive C in the game, McCann;good young soild C

                      Middle Infield - Pedroia, Phillips, Reyes, Roberts etc, plenty of choices here to boost Def and/or Speed

                      Outfield - Crawford, Ellsbury, Granderson, Jackson etc...

                      Based on what you have told me, you have prospects to spare so put together a decent package of them and you should be able to get 1 or 2 really good players to boost your speed and defense...
                      Thanks man, I'll probably try for Phillips and Reyes and keep Price. Molina is a FA next offseason so I'll sign him there and really field a great team.

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                      • Pete_Dogg_18
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 257

                        #1466
                        Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

                        Okay, made a couple of trades in my Astros fantasy draft franchise that I thought were fair or close to... I hold a slim lead over the Cards and am looking for some pieces to hold them off in the second half... First one was with the Jays, who were sitting at the bottom of the AL East and had Votto on the block...

                        Astros get
                        1B Joey Votto

                        Jays get
                        LF Domonic Brown
                        2B Brad Emaus
                        SP Anthony Ranaudo

                        I get a big bat in the middle of my line-up, joins Tex and Zimmerman, Zimm moves to LF to cover Brown, Tex to 3B, Votto stays at 1B... The Jays get three great young A potential guys who will be great for them the next few years...

                        Next one was with the struggling Twins, they were quite a few games under .500 and had Tim Lincecum on the block...

                        Astros get
                        SP Tim Lincecum

                        Twins get
                        SP Tommy Hanson
                        SP Shelby Miller

                        Hanson will almost be an Ace by next year and Miller will be MLB ready as well so they get two young, high potential, cheap arms and I get the Staff Ace I need for a WS run... Probably in my favour but hey, compared to some others ive seen its pretty fair...
                        RED SOX NATION!!!!

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                        • edborstein
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 195

                          #1467
                          Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

                          It seems REALLY easy to trade for guys like BRandon Phillips. I can give up a c-prospect, and get him...

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                          • Yankees2009Champs
                            Pro
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 710

                            #1468
                            Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

                            Originally posted by edborstein
                            It seems REALLY easy to trade for guys like BRandon Phillips. I can give up a c-prospect, and get him...
                            It all depends on what the team is lacking in. You have to attack the desperation. I just did a fantasy draft for fun with the Red Sox. I only took the best hitters, completely disregarded pitching. After getting a stock pile of hitters I started drafting closers and moving them to relief pitchers. Here are some sample dumb trades where the computer over reacts to desperation. Worst trade by far was first one.

                            Mets desperate for a catcher so I make this trade
                            Sox acquire: Evan Longoria, Chris Ianetta, Steven Strasburg
                            Mets get: Madison Bumgarner, Matt Weiters, Kelly Shoppach

                            Sox acquire: Dustin Pedroia
                            Brewers get: Michael Young

                            Sox acquire: Andrew McCutchen, Rafael Furcal, Omar Infante
                            Indians get: Ichiro

                            Don't need Furcal but will take him, flip him to Orioles, they need SS
                            Sox acquire: Brandon Morrow, Dellin Betances, Antonio Bastardo
                            Orioles get: Rafael Furcal

                            Sox acquire:
                            Justin Verlander, Leonys Martin, Roger Bernadina
                            Padres get: Placido Polanco, Magglio Ordonez, Todd Helton

                            Sox acquire: Marlon Byrd, Ryan Howard, Jordan Zimmermann
                            Phillies get: Leonys Martin, Delin Betances, Carlos Lee

                            I could have just kept flipping players but I wasn't sure I needed anything more.

                            Oh by the way here is my lineup and pitching rotation:
                            CF McCutchen
                            2B Pedroia
                            SS Tulowitzki (2nd round pick in draft)
                            3B Longoria
                            LF Braun (1st round pick in draft)
                            DH David Ortiz
                            1B Ryan Howard
                            RF Dayan Viciedo (I have a sweet spot for him)
                            C Chris Iannetta

                            Rotation:
                            Justin Verlander
                            Steven Strasburg
                            Brandon Morrow
                            Derek Lowe
                            Jordan Zimmermann

                            SU Brad Lidge
                            SU Takashi Saito
                            CP Joe Nathan

                            Bench:
                            2B Jamey Carroll
                            2B Omar Infante
                            C Brayan Pena
                            CF Torii Hunter

                            I'm not sure this lineup can be beaten.
                            "Undaunted, I knew the game was mine to win. Just like in life, ALL of my successes depend on me. I'm the man who has the ball, I'm the man who can throw it faster than heck. So that is why I am better than everyone in the world."

                            Legendary pitcher Kenny Powers

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                            • Yankees2009Champs
                              Pro
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 710

                              #1469
                              Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

                              Originally posted by Yankees2009Champs
                              It all depends on what the team is lacking in. You have to attack the desperation. I just did a fantasy draft for fun with the Red Sox. I only took the best hitters, completely disregarded pitching. After getting a stock pile of hitters I started drafting closers and moving them to relief pitchers. Here are some sample dumb trades where the computer over reacts to desperation. Worst trade by far was first one.

                              Mets desperate for a catcher so I make this trade
                              Sox acquire: Evan Longoria, Chris Ianetta, Steven Strasburg
                              Mets get: Madison Bumgarner, Matt Weiters, Kelly Shoppach

                              Sox acquire: Dustin Pedroia
                              Brewers get: Michael Young

                              Sox acquire: Andrew McCutchen, Rafael Furcal, Omar Infante
                              Indians get: Ichiro

                              Don't need Furcal but will take him, flip him to Orioles, they need SS
                              Sox acquire: Brandon Morrow, Dellin Betances, Antonio Bastardo
                              Orioles get: Rafael Furcal

                              Sox acquire:
                              Justin Verlander, Leonys Martin, Roger Bernadina
                              Padres get: Placido Polanco, Magglio Ordonez, Todd Helton

                              Sox acquire: Marlon Byrd, Ryan Howard, Jordan Zimmermann
                              Phillies get: Leonys Martin, Delin Betances, Carlos Lee

                              I could have just kept flipping players but I wasn't sure I needed anything more.

                              Oh by the way here is my lineup and pitching rotation:
                              CF McCutchen
                              2B Pedroia
                              SS Tulowitzki (2nd round pick in draft)
                              3B Longoria
                              LF Braun (1st round pick in draft)
                              DH David Ortiz
                              1B Ryan Howard
                              RF Dayan Viciedo (I have a sweet spot for him)
                              C Chris Iannetta

                              Rotation:
                              Justin Verlander
                              Steven Strasburg
                              Brandon Morrow
                              Derek Lowe
                              Jordan Zimmermann

                              SU Brad Lidge
                              SU Takashi Saito
                              CP Joe Nathan

                              Bench:
                              2B Jamey Carroll
                              2B Omar Infante
                              C Brayan Pena
                              CF Torii Hunter

                              I'm not sure this lineup can be beaten.
                              I should set the record for wins in a year.
                              "Undaunted, I knew the game was mine to win. Just like in life, ALL of my successes depend on me. I'm the man who has the ball, I'm the man who can throw it faster than heck. So that is why I am better than everyone in the world."

                              Legendary pitcher Kenny Powers

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                              • Rouchicus
                                Rookie
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 378

                                #1470
                                Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

                                Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
                                Well I wouldn't necessarily have that mentality...If your in contention by the trading deadline, u have to try to win at all costs....U jus can't be afraid to trade big-time prospects for proven veterans.....I'm in the same exact boat as u..I'm playing with a small-market team (Pirates) and i'm doin very well through 85 games...Granted, i haven't been scouring the trade block but i will have to soon...Like your team, the pirates don't have a bonafide ace, and like u, im VERY hesitant to unload top prospects..In your case, the royals have more pitching prospects (and prolly hitting prospects for that matter) then the Pirates, so the blow wouldn't hurt that much as it would for a team with a barren farm system

                                Just an update from the talk we were having about trading in my Royals franchise. I still haven't pulled the trigger on any big deals. I just started July and I'll probably make a move for a pitcher once teams become buyers and sellers. I brought Duffy up and he was playing well but got injured and is out for 2 months. Jeff Weaver is a stop gap as of right now until I find a pitcher to bring in.

                                Moose kept hitting well in AAA so I brought him up and traded Betemit to the Rays for a pitching prospect that is escaping me at the moment. I think he was like a B potential though. Nothing special.

                                I'm going with Getz at 2B, Moose at 3B and Escobar at SS. Aviles fills in at any spot I need him to. Before the season is up, I plan on bringing up Giavotella and hopefully Hosmer. Ka'aihue has decided he wants to hit at the major league level and Hoz is still struggling. Might trade Kila though.

                                I als
                                PSN - RedSea_Rouch

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