2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

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  • bugle987
    Banned
    • Apr 2011
    • 1289

    #6346
    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by EL_GABE
    for some reason the redsox are in love with felipe lopez!

    the only deal they will accept for lester is

    Lester for Taillon(A ) ,colton cain(b) and felipe lopez(age 32 c pot)

    i even offerd (instead of lopez) bell or grossman but the redsox wont accept they would only accept if lopez is in so what you guys think fair or not ?
    Taillon is untouchable

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    • 37
      Fear The Spear
      • Apr 2011
      • 10346

      #6347
      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by bugle987
      Taillon is untouchable
      well yeah but i dont think the poster realizes that
      Steelers | Seminoles | A's | Rockets | Avalanche | Wildcats, Hoosiers | Liverpool

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      • AC
        Win the East
        • Sep 2010
        • 14951

        #6348
        Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by RobotMagician
        Ok, so I'm in a regular franchise...

        Year one, Albert Pujols is traded to the Blue Jays (can't remember what for).

        Spring Training of year two Albert Pujols is traded straight up for Todd Helton.

        In my fantasy franchise apparently this and this are how a team rebuilds.

        Sorry for the image quality, cell phone.

        Edit:

        I was doing this joke franchise (Trading away star players for F overalls with F potential) and I found that if you trade a bunch of good players for one minor leaguer, that there is a 99.9% chance that the AI will put the player through waivers and/or have them play in the minors.

        Example: I traded CC Sabathia, Ivan Nova, and another player for a horrible minor leaguer. I then get a waiver notification and am able to claim them all back, and trade them again. I finally stopped doing this, and Sabathia and Nova played the 2012 season in the minors.
        That's ridiculous. They'd better be redoing the trade logic.
        "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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        • RobotMagician
          Rookie
          • May 2012
          • 11

          #6349
          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by ACMilan1999
          That's ridiculous. They'd better be redoing the trade logic.
          I really hope so. What's even worse is how you can manipulate them into trading away almost anyone for an average/above average player if you pick up an older player from their roster.

          Their interest could go from not filled at all to filled by adding someone like Johnny Damon or even Alex Rodriguez. And vice versa if you were trying to trade him away. And again, that is a franchise with a cap off too, so the fact that I'm taking on $34 mil. doesn't matter.

          The strange thing is, I had accidentally backed out of the trade screen before completing a 3 for 3 trade. I go back, and add all three Yankees. Then I go and add Lars Anderson who was a part of the original trade...and they say it's a good deal. Now I'm really confused, and I'm sure you are too. I tried changing what players were in the deal, but it always came down to the Yankees wanting to get rid of Rodriguez.

          You may find this happens quite often if you try it yourself.

          First, I look for a player I want, let's say Jose Bautista. I go down my roster list and put up a player I am willing to trade. If the interest bar didn't fill, that's fine. Look for players on their team that either increase the bar, or even make them want to complete the deal. If it's not enough you can go back to your side and do the same thing. Many times you'll find you can add or remove players from either side of a deal that the CPU already finds acceptable (such as the Lars Anderson trade). I had been willing to trade two other players, but apparently I didn't need to. Sometimes the CPU will accept a trade just because you added another player, and as said above, these are usually older players like Johnny Damon and players who aren't that great, but Tim Hudson is one of the highest rated pitchers in the game and he fits into this category as well. Not only will these players help seal a deal, they can actually make the AI be willing to give up another star caliber player as well.

          I hope that all makes sense. I just decided to type that out, so if anyone needs any further explanation, or if it just seemed like I was rambling let me know.

          The two trades for Sale and Cueto were the first time I had experienced anything that bad. I've traded older players for younger AND better players because a team is "rebuilding," but I'm really not sure how you rebuild with 6 relief pitchers in their upper thirties and early forties.

          I've spent hours on a fantasy franchise (with the cap off) trading for and flipping players and prospects. It's fun figuring out how the AI works and using it to your advantage.

          It's practically impossible to trade for someone like Felix Hernandez or Clayton Kershaw, so flipping is needed, but if you're willing to do it it's possible. When I say willing to do it, it probably took me well over 100 trades to get the following rotation, as well as a ridiculous lineup, and all A prospects.

          In my second year of a Fantasy Franchise (No Salary Cap) I eventually ended up with a starting rotation of: Verlander, Felix, Kershaw, Strasburg, and Sale. I also had Pineda, Bumgarner, Latos, pretty much all A prospects (at all positions) in the minors. (I started with Bumgarner and Strasburger I believe)

          I had Neftali Feliz in the LRP role. I had drafted him, traded him away, and then traded for him in another deal. Due to my strength in SP and his low end stamina, I thought this was a good role for him.

          Brian Wilson, Craig Kimbrel, and Kenley Jansen are all closers, so I had to edit them to RP, which regrettably makes their overall go down a tiny bit. Jonny Venters rounded out the MRP/SU. I had Aroldis Chapman closing. I didn't draft ANY of these players.

          Sorry for the wall.

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          • AC
            Win the East
            • Sep 2010
            • 14951

            #6350
            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            I have a motto around here;

            30 team control; Learn it, live it, love it.

            It's a lot of work, but it's also so rewarding NOT to have crazy trades happen like the ones you listed.
            "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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            • bugle987
              Banned
              • Apr 2011
              • 1289

              #6351
              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by RobotMagician
              I really hope so. What's even worse is how you can manipulate them into trading away almost anyone for an average/above average player if you pick up an older player from their roster.

              Their interest could go from not filled at all to filled by adding someone like Johnny Damon or even Alex Rodriguez. And vice versa if you were trying to trade him away. And again, that is a franchise with a cap off too, so the fact that I'm taking on $34 mil. doesn't matter.

              The strange thing is, I had accidentally backed out of the trade screen before completing a 3 for 3 trade. I go back, and add all three Yankees. Then I go and add Lars Anderson who was a part of the original trade...and they say it's a good deal. Now I'm really confused, and I'm sure you are too. I tried changing what players were in the deal, but it always came down to the Yankees wanting to get rid of Rodriguez.

              You may find this happens quite often if you try it yourself.

              First, I look for a player I want, let's say Jose Bautista. I go down my roster list and put up a player I am willing to trade. If the interest bar didn't fill, that's fine. Look for players on their team that either increase the bar, or even make them want to complete the deal. If it's not enough you can go back to your side and do the same thing. Many times you'll find you can add or remove players from either side of a deal that the CPU already finds acceptable (such as the Lars Anderson trade). I had been willing to trade two other players, but apparently I didn't need to. Sometimes the CPU will accept a trade just because you added another player, and as said above, these are usually older players like Johnny Damon and players who aren't that great, but Tim Hudson is one of the highest rated pitchers in the game and he fits into this category as well. Not only will these players help seal a deal, they can actually make the AI be willing to give up another star caliber player as well.

              I hope that all makes sense. I just decided to type that out, so if anyone needs any further explanation, or if it just seemed like I was rambling let me know.

              The two trades for Sale and Cueto were the first time I had experienced anything that bad. I've traded older players for younger AND better players because a team is "rebuilding," but I'm really not sure how you rebuild with 6 relief pitchers in their upper thirties and early forties.

              I've spent hours on a fantasy franchise (with the cap off) trading for and flipping players and prospects. It's fun figuring out how the AI works and using it to your advantage.

              It's practically impossible to trade for someone like Felix Hernandez or Clayton Kershaw, so flipping is needed, but if you're willing to do it it's possible. When I say willing to do it, it probably took me well over 100 trades to get the following rotation, as well as a ridiculous lineup, and all A prospects.

              In my second year of a Fantasy Franchise (No Salary Cap) I eventually ended up with a starting rotation of: Verlander, Felix, Kershaw, Strasburg, and Sale. I also had Pineda, Bumgarner, Latos, pretty much all A prospects (at all positions) in the minors. (I started with Bumgarner and Strasburger I believe)

              I had Neftali Feliz in the LRP role. I had drafted him, traded him away, and then traded for him in another deal. Due to my strength in SP and his low end stamina, I thought this was a good role for him.

              Brian Wilson, Craig Kimbrel, and Kenley Jansen are all closers, so I had to edit them to RP, which regrettably makes their overall go down a tiny bit. Jonny Venters rounded out the MRP/SU. I had Aroldis Chapman closing. I didn't draft ANY of these players.

              Sorry for the wall.
              You could of taken that 10 paragraph thing and made into 5 words. Always use 30 team control. All that stuff you posted is pointless if you just use 30 team control

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              • AC
                Win the East
                • Sep 2010
                • 14951

                #6352
                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by bugle987
                You could of taken that 10 paragraph thing and made into 5 words. Always use 30 team control. All that stuff you posted is pointless if you just use 30 team control
                'lil bit harsh, but I agree with anything that encourages 30 team. We're lucky to have at least that..
                "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                • bugle987
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 1289

                  #6353
                  Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                  'lil bit harsh, but I agree with anything that encourages 30 team. We're lucky to have at least that..
                  I didn't mean to be harsh I just think that the work involved in 30 team control is worth It

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                  • yanksrule3
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 171

                    #6354
                    How does 30 team control work.ate you supposed to make fair teases in the player movement screen.if so how do you a 3 for one trade.

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                    • yanksrule3
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 171

                      #6355
                      *Are you supposed to make fair^^^ trades.*

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                      • bugle987
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 1289

                        #6356
                        Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by yanksrule3
                        How does 30 team control work.ate you supposed to make fair teases in the player movement screen.if so how do you a 3 for one trade.

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                        In 30 team control you can choose what CPU trades to let go through or not

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                        • glunsford
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 170

                          #6357
                          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Ur not suppose to , but it makes it more fun with fair and realistic trades

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                          • yanksrule3
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 171

                            #6358
                            What do you think I should trade for Colby rasmus who is tiering 368 with 2 Homers at the beginning of the season.I really need another outfielder.I was thinking 2 Bs

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                            • glunsford
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 170

                              #6359
                              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Two low Bs should be fine

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                              • AC
                                Win the East
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 14951

                                #6360
                                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                I'd wait for a little while to see how he's performing. Early April is significantly too early to trade for a player like Rasmus. Plus, it isn't realistic at all. He'd been with the team for, what, 30 games? Wait until mid June.
                                "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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