2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

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  • Totte
    MVP
    • Mar 2005
    • 2919

    #8926
    Originally posted by pickle2002
    A middle of the rotation starter...

    I will look at Jaso and Olivo.

    Thanks!
    I personally like Luke Hochevar. If you need a lefty, Paul Maholm could slide in nicely as a 4th starter. Both guys won't cost more than two C's
    Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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    • Totte
      MVP
      • Mar 2005
      • 2919

      #8927
      Originally posted by Totte
      I personally like Luke Hochevar. If you need a lefty, Paul Maholm could slide in nicely as a 4th starter. Both guys won't cost more than two C's
      Dallas Braden is sort of a sneaky option as well if you're looking for a lefty. I'd say a B in exchange for him.

      Kyle Kendrick is a guy who'd also be two C's. You trade for him as a no 5 starter and he could turn in numbers like a solid 4, soft no 3 starter.
      Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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      • Totte
        MVP
        • Mar 2005
        • 2919

        #8928
        Another lefty, Joe Saunders, would leave Arizona for a mid C prospect. Nice no 4 or 5 guy and veteran presence in the clubhouse and dugout.

        AC suggested Peavy from the White Sox but they also have Gavin Floyd who could probably be had for a low B. Not the same high salary as Peavy but still a solid pitcher.

        Edwin Jackson from the Nats for a low B could work as well. Nice k-rate and he's cut down on the walks during each of the past years lowering his whip.

        Bronson Arroyo is familiar with the AL East from his Boston days and the Reds have way too many starters. Two C's for Arroyo.

        Depending on what rosters you use, the Reds (or Rockies) have Canadian Jeff Francis available as well. He's a single C prospect to acquire.
        Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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        • AC
          Win the East
          • Sep 2010
          • 14951

          #8929
          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by Totte
          Another lefty, Joe Saunders, would leave Arizona for a mid C prospect. Nice no 4 or 5 guy and veteran presence in the clubhouse and dugout.

          Pretty overrated IMO.

          AC suggested Peavy from the White Sox but they also have Gavin Floyd who could probably be had for a low B. Not the same high salary as Peavy but still a solid pitcher.

          Floyd's an option, as is John Danks.

          Edwin Jackson from the Nats for a low B could work as well. Nice k-rate and he's cut down on the walks during each of the past years lowering his whip.

          He's just soooooooo inconsistent haha.

          Bronson Arroyo is familiar with the AL East from his Boston days and the Reds have way too many starters. Two C's for Arroyo.

          He said he hopes Manny Ramirez gets cancer. I mean...

          Depending on what rosters you use, the Reds (or Rockies) have Canadian Jeff Francis available as well. He's a single C prospect to acquire.

          GO CANADA! We're better than Sweden at hockey! But yeah, this guy's not a chucker, but he's got control.
          Responses in bold.
          "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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          • seanjeezy
            The Future
            • Aug 2009
            • 3347

            #8930
            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            I think John Jaso would require giving up more than just a C prospect (not Olivio though, if that). He's a mid/upper B potential in-game (so he gains +5 in every attribute over the next three years until he's a B+ overall), and in my test M's franchise he ended up becoming a type A free agent and an all-star after hitting .313 with 26 HR... couple the rapid progression with the fact that he still would be under team control for those three years makes him a very valuable commodity IMO.
            Bakin' soda, I got bakin' soda

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            • AC
              Win the East
              • Sep 2010
              • 14951

              #8931
              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by seanjeezy
              I think John Jaso would require giving up more than just a C prospect (not Olivio though, if that). He's a mid/upper B potential in-game (so he gains +5 in every attribute over the next three years until he's a B+ overall), and in my test M's franchise he ended up becoming a type A free agent and an all-star after hitting .313 with 26 HR... couple the rapid progression with the fact that he still would be under team control for those three years makes him a very valuable commodity IMO.
              I have never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, seen him put up those numbers, haha.
              "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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              • seanjeezy
                The Future
                • Aug 2009
                • 3347

                #8932
                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by ACMilan99
                I have never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, seen him put up those numbers, haha.



                The crazy thing was that in 2014 he was still under team control; In 2015 he was an all-star and became a type A free agent...
                Bakin' soda, I got bakin' soda

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                • AC
                  Win the East
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 14951

                  #8933
                  Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by seanjeezy


                  The crazy thing was that in 2014 he was still under team control; In 2015 he was an all-star and became a type A free agent...
                  That looks like Vita... figures haha. Honestly, he's solid, but more than a low-mid B is too much.
                  "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                  • seanjeezy
                    The Future
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 3347

                    #8934
                    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by ACMilan99
                    That looks like Vita... figures haha. Honestly, he's solid, but more than a low-mid B is too much.
                    Yes, a B is much more valuable than a C last time I checked

                    Seriously though, if he was leaderboard eligible he would be 9th in all of baseball in WRC+ (144), and if you use a ratings adjusted roster then he becomes better sooner.
                    Last edited by seanjeezy; 09-28-2012, 05:36 PM.
                    Bakin' soda, I got bakin' soda

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                    • AC
                      Win the East
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 14951

                      #8935
                      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by seanjeezy
                      Yes, a B is much more valuable than a C last time I checked
                      Not always... It's the argument of high ceiling projects vs. MLB ready, low ceiling guys, also known as, "We the Blue Jays took Deck McGuire over Chris Sale for reasons that no one can fully comprehend."
                      "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                      • CastroRizzoBaez
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 144

                        #8936
                        Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Brett Lawrie homerd in his first Braves Atbat and had 5 rbis leading me to victory!

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                        • AC
                          Win the East
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 14951

                          #8937
                          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by CastroRizzoBaez
                          Brett Lawrie homerd in his first Braves Atbat and had 5 rbis leading me to victory!
                          Please tell me you didn't trade Kimbrel & Jurrjens for him...
                          "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                          • Tampafan11
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 911

                            #8938
                            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            I am at the all star break and I'm the Rays. I feel that we need a SS, as Hak and Beckham are sucking it up in minors, and like Zobrist to play 2B and have Kep DH. Not by PS3 right now, but us and the Dodgers are still in it. They are looking for pitching and I thought Shields might be a good option. We won't be resigning him as I'm using the recent Sony roster update, which has the Gonzo to dodgers trade, and has Archer as an A potential. I did move almost all the prospects from Scott's roster over, so it still has same minor league players. I like Dee Gordon and since the Dodgers have moved Hanley to SS in real life, I feel Dee is expendable. Wondering who else would be in trade. I obviously like Zach Lee, but dont see them letting him go. any adgice is appreciated! Thank you!

                            Also if anyone has any trades for Upton and/or Farnsworth, it would be appreciated! Still looking for a young catcher of future.

                            I will get records in later tonight. Also stats for Gordon and Shields, also Upton and Farnsworth or any other players you guys need for advice in trade
                            Last edited by Tampafan11; 09-28-2012, 09:33 PM.

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                            • rjackson
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 1661

                              #8939
                              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              What is Aoki worth and how willing would Milwaukee be willing to trade him? What kind of player would interest them? I don't know much about them and they are middle of the pack in their division. FWIW, Aoki is only hitting .220 and I just like his speed and platoon advantage as my line-up is filled with righties.
                              Last edited by rjackson; 09-28-2012, 09:35 PM.

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                              • rjackson
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 1661

                                #8940
                                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by Tampafan11
                                I am at the all star break and I'm the Rays. I feel that we need a SS, as Hak and Beckham are sucking it up in minors, and like Zobrist to play 2B and have Kep DH. Not by PS3 right now, but us and the Dodgers are still in it. They are looking for pitching and I thought Shields might be a good option. We won't be resigning him as I'm using the recent Sony roster update, which has the Gonzo to dodgers trade, and has Archer as an A potential. I did move almost all the prospects from Scott's roster over, so it still has same minor league players. I like Dee Gordon and since the Dodgers have moved Hanley to SS in real life, I feel Dee is expendable. Wondering who else would be in trade. I obviously like Zach Lee, but dont see them letting him go. any adgice is appreciated! Thank you!

                                Also if anyone has any trades for Upton and/or Farnsworth, it would be appreciated! Still looking for a young catcher of future.
                                How is Dee et al performing? IRL, Dee is not worth much, if anything but maybe he is doing okay?

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