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  • CameRoN0407
    It's a New England Thing
    • Oct 2012
    • 3328

    #9721
    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
    imo, IF u include Venters in that conversation, Kimbrel's gotta be included as well...but that's another story for another day
    Kimbrel is a CP worth about an A and low B IMO (overpay???)/untouchable

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    • AC
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      #9722
      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Readyornot0407
      Kimbrel is a CP worth about an A and low B IMO (overpay???)/untouchable

      *I'll Stop about him now!!!*
      If you consider that an overpay, you can't afford him.
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      • CameRoN0407
        It's a New England Thing
        • Oct 2012
        • 3328

        #9723
        Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by ACMilan99
        If you consider that an overpay, you can't afford him.
        I don't want him. That would take alot!!! Anyway I got Bailey who's not doing bad!!!
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        • Texas
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          • Sep 2012
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          #9724
          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Buster Olney is says he wouldn't be suprised if the following aren't traded for pitching. Alex Gordon, Eric Hosmer, Billy Butler, Mike Moustakas. The Mariners, A's or the Dbacks could be a target.

          This has me wondering what do you think the value of these players are?

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          • CameRoN0407
            It's a New England Thing
            • Oct 2012
            • 3328

            #9725
            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by Texas
            Buster Olney is says he wouldn't be suprised if the following aren't traded for pitching. Alex Gordon, Eric Hosmer, Billy Butler, Mike Moustakas. The Mariners, A's or the Dbacks could be a target.

            This has me wondering what do you think the value of these players are?
            Yea In saw that too
            I'm not familiar with the values of these guys.what's their stats?
            Blind predictions:
            Gordon(traded for him in my 'chise, doing awessome):1 low A/high B pitcher and mid B
            Hosmer: A and high B
            Butler: High B, mid B, lowB
            Moose: High B, mid B

            To be honest I really can't tell. but if you want to take one you need to give up a pitching prospects.
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            • AC
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              #9726
              Are we actually treating Buster Olney as a credible source now? *face palm*
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              • CameRoN0407
                It's a New England Thing
                • Oct 2012
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                #9727
                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by ACMilan99
                Are we actually treating Buster Olney as a credible source now? *face palm*
                I don't overtrust him, but sometimes he's right.
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                • seanjeezy
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                  • Aug 2009
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                  #9728
                  Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  I feel like something important is being misunderstood here: middle relief pitchers are a dime a dozen, those are your Padillas, Rapadas, Delabars, etc., usually 2/3 of your bullpen consists of these guys. Those guys are usually worth 1-2 C's, but back end guys are worth a little bit more, and established closers are worth a lot more. Of course, age and contract matter, so someone like Kimbrel who is under team control for four more years and is already the best closer in the game, I could see the Braves asking for a lot in return, an A and a B probably isn't enough.

                  Just my $0.02
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                  • G3no_11
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 1110

                    #9729
                    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    My original thought of 2 mid-B's may be a little high. I just think that he is highly valued by the Yankees because they don't exactly have the most depth in relief pitching. He's also very young (especially for a relief pitcher) and has a decent amount of upside.

                    I would probably say low B/mid C for him. If he wasn't on the yankees.. maybe less, but I feel like he's pretty valuable to them right now.
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                    • MattGarza13
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                      • Sep 2011
                      • 438

                      #9730
                      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      So what are your guys thoughts on the Twins and Giants trade rumor. Sounds like theres a very slight chance the Giants trade Lincecum to shed his salary, plus theres concern with his drop in velocity. Seems like the trade would center around Denard Span for Tim Lincecum.

                      I know its unlikely and probably won't happen. But I just wanted to see what you guys thought of it. I think it'd be good for both teams, Giants get a proven lead off hitter and CFer while the Twins can finally get a guy with 'ace' stuff.
                      Last edited by MattGarza13; 10-28-2012, 11:25 AM.

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                      • Totte
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 2919

                        #9731
                        Originally posted by MattGarza13
                        So what are your guys thoughts on the Twins and Giants trade rumor. Sounds like theres a very slight chance the Giants trade Lincecum to shed his salary, plus theres concern with his drop in velocity. Seems like the trade would center around Denard Span for Tim Lincecum.

                        I know its unlikely and probably won't happen. But I just wanted to see what you guys thought of it. I think it'd be good for both teams, Giants get a proven lead off hitter and CFer while the Twins can finally get a guy with 'ace' stuff.
                        I keep hearing how Sabean wants to keep the magic from this year going into 2013 and therefore will be looking at retaining pretty much every piece of the team. I think the Giants first and foremost would move Lincecum to the pen rather than trading him given how he's a true fan favorite. I could see him being moved at the trading deadline though but that's IF the Giants are far out of it and Timmy isn't pitching like an ace. I think they'll go the FA route for their CF hole and Victorino is a fit as he wants to be on the west coast to have direct flight options back home to Hawaii to visit friends and fam
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                        • Texas
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 47

                          #9732
                          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by Totte
                          I keep hearing how Sabean wants to keep the magic from this year going into 2013 and therefore will be looking at retaining pretty much every piece of the team. I think the Giants first and foremost would move Lincecum to the pen rather than trading him given how he's a true fan favorite. I could see him being moved at the trading deadline though but that's IF the Giants are far out of it and Timmy isn't pitching like an ace. I think they'll go the FA route for their CF hole and Victorino is a fit as he wants to be on the west coast to have direct flight options back home to Hawaii to visit friends and fam
                          With that being Said what do you think the value of Lincicum is? I really like pitching with him. It's the start of my franchise and I'm in need of a good SP

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                          • CameRoN0407
                            It's a New England Thing
                            • Oct 2012
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                            #9733
                            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Texas
                            With that being Said what do you think the value of Lincicum is? I really like pitching with him. It's the start of my franchise and I'm in need of a good SP
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                            • AC
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                              #9734
                              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by MattGarza13
                              So what are your guys thoughts on the Twins and Giants trade rumor. Sounds like theres a very slight chance the Giants trade Lincecum to shed his salary, plus theres concern with his drop in velocity. Seems like the trade would center around Denard Span for Tim Lincecum.

                              I know its unlikely and probably won't happen. But I just wanted to see what you guys thought of it. I think it'd be good for both teams, Giants get a proven lead off hitter and CFer while the Twins can finally get a guy with 'ace' stuff.
                              I'm getting the feeling you heard this from Buster Olney.

                              Originally posted by Texas
                              With that being Said what do you think the value of Lincicum is? I really like pitching with him. It's the start of my franchise and I'm in need of a good SP
                              Try waiting until June.
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                              • Totte
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 2919

                                #9735
                                Originally posted by Texas
                                With that being Said what do you think the value of Lincicum is? I really like pitching with him. It's the start of my franchise and I'm in need of a good SP
                                In general, without looking at stats and based off a typical Timmy season - One A and two high B's
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