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  • bugle987
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    • Apr 2011
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    #886
    Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

    Originally posted by ACMilan1999
    That's harsh. He had a bad start in Texas. Which is justifiable, because he's playing in front of people he knows, in his home, against the best lineup in the league, arguably. Aside from that, he's been lights out. Remember when he matched Darvish, pitch for pitch?
    A 4.6 ERA with a 1/1 K/BB ratio and a 1.6 WHIP is lights out. He's giving up 6 BB's per 9. His command is terrible and it's not like he's been getting any better. No offense but when you have -0.4 WAR that's terrible.

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    • msuboy11
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      • Jun 2011
      • 1078

      #887
      Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

      ACMilan1999, I'll do the Matusz and Tillman for Arencibia and Drabek.

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      • AC
        Win the East
        • Sep 2010
        • 14951

        #888
        Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

        Originally posted by bugle987
        A 4.6 ERA with a 1/1 K/BB ratio and a 1.6 WHIP is lights out. He's giving up 6 BB's per 9. His command is terrible and it's not like he's been getting any better
        Light's out was an exaggeration. He's had a few bad starts, but he's been good. Inconsistency is common in a young kid. He's got tremendous upside.
        "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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        • AC
          Win the East
          • Sep 2010
          • 14951

          #889
          Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

          Originally posted by msuboy11
          ACMilan1999, I'll do the Matusz and Tillman for Arencibia and Drabek.
          I also request a back-up catcher, as well. Who's your back up? Is he better than Jeff Mathis?
          "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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          • AC
            Win the East
            • Sep 2010
            • 14951

            #890
            Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

            Originally posted by bugle987
            That's our offer this would really help our team in the future
            Pleasure negotiating. That's the quickest deal I've made!

            Could you give me a quick scouting report on Hedges? Especially an ETA, as I'm gonna need a stop gap if I trade Arencibia.

            MSUboy11, the Matsuz/Tillman deal isn't done yet. I'm still considering a few things.
            "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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            • bugle987
              Banned
              • Apr 2011
              • 1289

              #891
              Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

              Originally posted by ACMilan1999
              Light's out was an exaggeration. He's had a few bad starts, but he's been good. Inconsistency is common in a young kid. He's got tremendous upside.
              Sorry but he hasn't been good, I've watched prolly 3/4 of his starts and he has no command and his fastball just doesn't have a ton of movement which causes it to get hard. I just gave you the numbers to prove he's been quite awful. Just cause you got good stuff doesn't make you a good pitcher

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              • AC
                Win the East
                • Sep 2010
                • 14951

                #892
                Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

                Originally posted by bugle987
                Sorry but he hasn't been good, I've watched prolly 3/4 of his starts and he has no command and his fastball just doesn't have a ton of movement which causes it to get hard. I just gave you the numbers to prove he's been quite awful. Just cause you got good stuff doesn't make you a good pitcher
                I've watched all of his starts and he's seemed fairly average, if not in-development. Awful is a bit harsh. He's a LOT better than last year. And he's definitely shown flashes of a #2 guy.
                "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                • msuboy11
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 1078

                  #893
                  Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

                  Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                  I also request a back-up catcher, as well. Who's your back up? Is he better than Jeff Mathis?
                  It's Ronny Paulono. He has great contact vs. lefties!

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                  • bugle987
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1289

                    #894
                    Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

                    Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                    Pleasure negotiating. That's the quickest deal I've made!

                    Could you give me a quick scouting report on Hedges? Especially an ETA, as I'm gonna need a stop gap if I trade Arencibia.

                    MSUboy11, the Matsuz/Tillman deal isn't done yet. I'm still considering a few things.
                    This is straight from a ESPN MLB scout -


                    Austin Hedges, C: He was a very late, difficult cut from the top 100, and is already one of the best defensive catchers in the minor leagues, with receiving and throwing skills (arm strength, release, and accuracy) that would play in the majors right now even though he's just out of high school. Last fall, he shortened his stride and showed more power and ability to square up the ball than he did as an amateur, and is a strong candidate to jump to the middle of next year's list.

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                    • msuboy11
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 1078

                      #895
                      Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

                      Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                      I've watched all of his starts and he's seemed fairly average, if not in-development. Awful is a bit harsh. He's a LOT better than last year. And he's definitely shown flashes of a #2 guy.
                      You said that he's a high B right? So just need 1 message for an A?

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                      • bugle987
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 1289

                        #896
                        Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

                        Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                        I've watched all of his starts and he's seemed fairly average, if not in-development. Awful is a bit harsh. He's a LOT better than last year. And he's definitely shown flashes of a #2 guy.
                        If his command finally comes around sure he could be a great #2 it's just the command has to come

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                        • AC
                          Win the East
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 14951

                          #897
                          Originally posted by msuboy11
                          It's Ronny Paulono. He has great contact vs. lefties!
                          Hmmm.. I have an interesting proposal. In your franchise, you tget Arencibia and Drabek for Matsuz and Tillman. Then, if you're 30-teaming it, call up D'Arnaud for the Jays. This will shore up their rotation, while clearing room for their #1 prospect.

                          On my franchise, since the O's won't have traded Schoop yet, I do Arencibia and Drabek for Schoop, Matsuz, and Paulino. Works for both of us. If you agree to the second trade too, obviously.

                          Does anyone really care where I sent this from?
                          "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                          • AC
                            Win the East
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 14951

                            #898
                            Originally posted by bugle987
                            This is straight from a ESPN MLB scout -


                            Austin Hedges, C: He was a very late, difficult cut from the top 100, and is already one of the best defensive catchers in the minor leagues, with receiving and throwing skills (arm strength, release, and accuracy) that would play in the majors right now even though he's just out of high school. Last fall, he shortened his stride and showed more power and ability to square up the ball than he did as an amateur, and is a strong candidate to jump to the middle of next year's list.
                            Wow, sounds good! What's his ETA?





                            Originally posted by bugle987
                            If his command finally comes around sure he could be a great #2 it's just the command has to come
                            Agreed. He's controlled his anger this year.

                            Does anyone really care where I sent this from?
                            "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                            • msuboy11
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 1078

                              #899
                              Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

                              Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                              Hmmm.. I have an interesting proposal. In your franchise, you tget Arencibia and Drabek for Matsuz and Tillman. Then, if you're 30-teaming it, call up D'Arnaud for the Jays. This will shore up their rotation, while clearing room for their #1 prospect.

                              On my franchise, since the O's won't have traded Schoop yet, I do Arencibia and Drabek for Schoop, Matsuz, and Paulino. Works for both of us. If you agree to the second trade too, obviously.

                              Does anyone really care where I sent this from?
                              Ya man! I totally agree to it! I'll trade Paulino, Matusz, and Tillman for Arencibia and Drabek. Sounds good man! Way to negotiate!

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                              • AC
                                Win the East
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 14951

                                #900
                                Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

                                Originally posted by msuboy11
                                You said that he's a high B right? So just need 1 message for an A?
                                Yes, he's a high B.
                                "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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